zoohalee,
ah, I've not reached there yet. That's why... there are some chinese that's also one kind. I've came across chinese who are just plain arseholes and I'm not saying just a few of `em but quite a number too. Just that I didn't notice a thread that leans mostly towards issues related to chinese, or indians. That's why my posts leans more towards the muslim society. Don't get me wrong but again, when it's a particular post about a particular issue or topic, my posts relates back to the thread. In this thread, it's about rempits and most of the rempits are malays so hence, the posts that leans towards the malays. Of course, there are some statements that sounds like I'm saying ALL malays but rather, those who are of bad light which are being talked about in the particular thread. I believe I've justified this to you in one of the threads a few months ago.
A regular open minded person would easily conclude that when someone says something like "durians stinks", it would ONLY be from that person's own opinion. The fact is that durian only stinks for certain people and it smells heavenly for certain other people. So the fact is that there will never be a FINAL statement when someone says something that sounds discriminating. Likewise, when I say "the govt support bla bla bla", I'm speaking from my own opinion. I didn't even post that with a sense of trying to bash any religion but rather, just pointing out something I think about one particular group of people or entity.
The thing is, when I speak of my own opinion, people take those words and put their own meaning into it, thus, twisting it and making it sound discriminating. Unlike you, you asked me, "what do you mean by that?" which is when I would justify what I would mean. Why I don't justify even at my first post is because to me, I treat all members as smart people who will understand the basic, what I would term it, "naturality of posts in a forum". In short, I treat all members to be smart enough to know that all posts in a thread is specific to the topic and not a general post that speaks for everyone else. It's just that I've not spoken ALL of my mind yet and that's why my posts, to some, leans to one side. I won't have enough time to speak ALL of my mind just to justify that my post is not leaning to one side. It would be WAYYYY too long and too time consuming and also, in doing that, I may even get someone coming to me and say, "do you need to justify that much? You think we are idiots not to understand it?". Refering to this point, it's just that I've not spoken my mind on other (mind me for using this word, admins and mods) race or religion, so that's why I may seem to lean towards the malays.
I look at things in my own perspective (of course, not all of it is right) and as an invidual as like everyone else, I'm entitled to speak my mind, although it may not be right all the time. If someone felt that my posts are not right if looked at a certain perspective, then just point it out with justification on why so.
Let me give another example. You, for example, are one of the malays whom I respect, amongst some other malays who I respect as well. You don't use violence (at least as far as I know) and you don't directly go bashing people when they say something like "malays are this and that". Instead, you would query the owner of the post instead of saying stuff like "lu ingat lu pandai ka. keluar dari malaysia kalau tak suka di sini". It's why I'm cool with you all the while. If you posted something like, "why chinese like to do this?" with no intentions at all but rather, just seeking answers to your curiosity. Then, NOT ONE but a FEW chinese fellas come and say back to you, "you think all chinese are like that? go die la. You think you malays are bla bla bla!" Wouldn't you get angry about why those chinese took your normal post as a discriminating one, when you didn't even mean anything of that nature? I'll leave the answer to your kindself.
And I do hope this explains my posts and what it means. In short, it is not saying "ALL" malays, or chinese or whatever. As for my statement of "govt support malays", I am saying that those malays that govt is supporting are being spoilt, to a certain extent. I know that NOT ALL malays are being supported by govt and I know that there is quite a number who are independent. I'm not refering to bumi discounts and stuff like that. Y'all are wise enough to make out the difference in the posts so I don't see a need to justify each and every single word or sentence in a post.
Joeker,
In my explanation above, I think is has been justified clear enough about my posts. As for apologies to the muslim and malay members, I would say that this is not necessary as justified above. If you so insist that my personal opinion which is NOT a generalizing statement towards the malays but a discriminating or racist one, then with much due respect to your kindself as well as the mods and admins, then by all means, just delete my post entirely. If your kindself as well as the mods and admins do delete my post, then may I suggest that maybe the rules of the forum could be re-considered to add my below humble suggestions.
- no political or politically related posts/threads allowed.
- no posts/threads that relates to race or religion is allowed.
- no posts/threads that sounds general/racial/discriminating allowed.
- no insults/sarcasm/etc. allowed in the forum.
Please do note that I am not trying to challenge you, the mods and admins or anybody here but merely, stating my point of justification. It's just that I feel that people should stop putting their own meaning into some body elses post, as it is their own personal opinion, and then making a normal post into a discriminating post. Even as I post this post, I admit that I need correcting at times as well but I may debate back at times. This is just one process of the many processes of understanding something. If there is no exchange of minds and opinions, in a peaceful and normal way, then what is the use of the statement "sharing knowledge". I do hope you understand what I say.
Joeker said:
And Satria_95, I think for your own sake and well being, you had better keep your non-car related personal opinions to yourself.
Just a
friendly note, I think there are thousands, if not millions, of posts that are non-car related, personal or racially/politically/sensetively inclined. Does this mean it applies to everyone else as well, or are you solely refering to just me alone? If it's just solely me alone, then wouldn't you think that would be discrimination already, as I'm quite sure I've seen similar posts around.
Finally, I do not dislike or hate or whatever any particular group of people, be it by race, religion, nationality, or whatever. Hope this clears the air and I hope this would be a common understanding. Peace.
Lennon,
In your posts, when you mentioned "we chinese", personally, I would agree with joeker and zoohalee already. I don't mean anything but using the word "we chinese" is kinda indicating that you're representing all chinese, which I believe not all chinese would agree. Personally, I wouldn't use the word "we" but rather, "certain group of chinese". In short and in very direct words but with no harm meant, who are you to represent the chinese when the word "we" was used. Well, just thought I'd share that with you. Do correct me in areas that I've over looked. Peace.
