Pro and Cons Of Auto & Manual Cars - Open Discussion

[Supra_Fanatics]

I dunno. R35.. real drivers? The car does most of the driving. The driver is just an accessory!

Personally I have mixed feelings about both autos and manuals.

FC? My car from auto to manual - my FC dropped with the manual. I can't beat auto for some reason. It's worth noting though that everything was setup to work with the auto, then the only thing changed was the manual GB.

Drivability? Sometime ago I remember seeing a Porsche that was clutchless but had a 6-speed manual. Or was it 5-speed? Either way it was clutchless. That's awesome man.

And these days autos aren't exactly slow. It's just those archaic 3-speed / 4-speed autos that really kill. Bloody long gear ratios and screaming RPMs when pushed. The newer cars have pretty awesome systems, except for CVT though. I've seen too many break when under pressure until it's no longer funny. That belt inside the GB is just too sensitive imho.

Being an auto driver for over 6 years (before that manual), switching from two hands on the steering to one hand is a little tricky. Whats more you can no longer hold your partners hand if driving manual :P

But one thing I do like about manuals is how controllable the car becomes regardless the circumstance. Autos were/are less controllable and rely heavily on the go-fast pedal and brakes.

So bro, just to get your opinion. Say, cars like Satria Neo R3, isn't it better to get the Manual ones rather than the Auto Ones? I mean doesn't it beat the purpose of a car that is meant for some performance?

For sure, Auto is always the most suitable car to drive in a Jam up City like KL. Especially if it
is a daily drive. I'm not sure about how suffering it is to drive a manual in Traffic Havoc. Since I have not experience it before but kinda feel the pain on the left leg since driving auto in a crazy jam, my legs go numb a bit too..

But heard lots have advised not to buy manual due to our traffic jams.

Some said FC for Manual cars save more fuel than Auto Cars. So, just wondering whether
is a good idea to get a manual car in KL or is it just better to make a manual car a weekend car instead of daily car...

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

well...actually if it was me i don't really mind driving auto daily in traffic jams...especially when considering auto's fuel consumption and the lagging feels from torque converter actually makes it harder to crawl in jams....not to mention maintenance of autobox compared to manual...

unlike manual u can freely control how much power u want from crawling/stop n go situation.....


sadly my car was auto because at the moment i want to buy the car urgently there's no manual option that fits to my requirement... so have to live with it....not a big problem because the green one in my siggy was manual offcourse

 

[vr2turbo]

My 2 rides are manual. Now my wife's SUV is auto, but when drive outstation I use steptronic, so sort of like manual.....

 

[cvkit17]

I like manual with stick because:

a) Lower maintenance. Change to reputable brand gear oil once a year. Sometimes will suddenly wana change if mood is good.
b) I got a stick to play when driving, or even when not driving !
c) I can utilize engine stopping better (not to say auto cannot)
d) I can choose the gear ratio I want
e) Better FC, if compared to normal Auto
f) Looks sporty
g) Feeling of having more control

I like Auto because:

a) My legs wont get sore
b) Relaxing
c) Cant think of anymore


Ohya, not all my friends can drive a manual. Good in terms of not lending to the person if you are afraid. But bad in switching driver in long drive.

 

[vspec]

For me,

Manual - weekend
Auto - weekdays

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

I like manual with stick because:

a) Lower maintenance. Change to reputable brand gear oil once a year. Sometimes will suddenly wana change if mood is good.
b) I got a stick to play when driving, or even when not driving !
c) I can utilize engine stopping better (not to say auto cannot)
d) I can choose the gear ratio I want
e) Better FC, if compared to normal Auto
f) Looks sporty
g) Feeling of having more control

I like Auto because:

a) My legs wont get sore
b) Relaxing
c) Cant think of anymore


Ohya, not all my friends can drive a manual. Good in terms of not lending to the person if you are afraid. But bad in switching driver in long drive.

My alignment misaligned again

I think driving Manual at least not so easy fall asleep while driving?

 

[vr2turbo]

My alignment misaligned again

I think driving Manual at least not so easy fall asleep while driving?

hahahaha....play with bro. vspec siggy better....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

hahahaha....play with bro. vspec siggy better....

Dont have manual gearbox that can control with the shape of vspec's siggy...if not, all guys will drive manual. 1st gear rub left, 2nd gear slight up middle...Neutral, just grab...

There are reasons why some girls prefer manual I guess

 

[LesleyAprotto]

One more advantage using manual car is when....

The battery is weak and cannot start...

Manual cars can push to start, using the 2nd gear.....

Auto cars cannot do anything except scratching the head......:motz::bird::thumpdown:

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

One more advantage using manual car is when....

The battery is weak and cannot start...

Manual cars can push to start, using the 2nd gear.....

Auto cars cannot do anything except scratching the head......:motz::bird::thumpdown:

Can, jump start is easy. yet nowadays a lot of people are willing to help on the road.

 

[syimirmazlan]

i vote for manual...i love the feel..everyday im stuck in traffic jam, furthermore with a heavy clutch, a semi racing one...sometimes when people like to potong2 me in the jam queue, i will ram2 my car at them...if ram2 with auto, might sound funny..after a tiring journey in the traffic jam, once i reached MEX highway, i will tekan my pedal kaw2 punya, the clutch changing feeling, walawehhh..the best..an auto gearbox can never matched this experience...

 

[vr2turbo]

Can, jump start is easy. yet nowadays a lot of people are willing to help on the road.

In P.J. can call me.....for jump start....

 

[LesleyAprotto]

Can, jump start is easy. yet nowadays a lot of people are willing to help on the road.

Yeah you are right, but must have jumper around...

Also another car to do the jumping....

Lastly, its very risky to do jump start on high electronic cars with computer on board ECU etc...

If possible dont do it...

You may blow your on board computer and that will cost you a bomb....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

In P.J. can call me.....for jump start....

Preferably not to call you for that. Prefer to just call for a drink

 

[vr2turbo]

Preferably not to call you for that. Prefer to just call for a drink

Of course leh! If call me for jump start means you got problem liao....hahahaha
Call me for drink is better.....

 

[g4i8y0t]

Manual is to really enjoy the full driving experience of having the machine at your total control IF not stuck in traffic jams!
Advantage of auto is just to reduce the agony of stuck in jams and can do left foot braking like playing gokart.

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Does that mean F1 drivers from the last 20yrs are not real drivers? :)

Normal autobox (cvt & entry level dual-clutch included) on the road are not the same as F1 gearbox bro. What matters to F1 drivers and teams is not driving experience but lap times! The new Porsche 911's PDK is more efficient and faster zerotohundred time than it's 7-speed manual. However, many auto journalists prefer the manual version in terms of driving feel and satisfaction (this is from what I read lah...). I live in kampung area, seldom face traffic jam except during Hari Raya and Chinese New Year only, heheh..

 

[pwhyze]

Manual is to really enjoy the full driving experience of having the machine at your total control IF not stuck in traffic jams!
Advantage of auto is just to reduce the agony of stuck in jams and can do left foot braking like playing gokart.

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Does that mean F1 drivers from the last 20yrs are not real drivers? :)

Could be pedantic...but....

You can't equate drivers who drives for a living and those who do it out of enjoyment. Lap times are all that matter fro F1 drivers, not feel (cheesy,yeah..but true..lol). DSG and sequentials and what not are not doubt faster, therefore, relevant to race teams, but for us? Not much, unless you time yourself while blasting through your favorite back roads, to which I say, more power to you.

For me, I take enjoyment in hitting that perfect heel and toe and slotting the gear as smooth as possible than worry about time...Might not be the same for you though.

 

[cvkit17]

It's like driving a slow car fast get more thrill than driving a fast car slow.

 

[vr2turbo]

It's like driving a slow car fast get more thrill than driving a fast car slow.

Yup, the thrill of driving a slow car fast and to show off, drive a fast car slow......

 

[6UE5t]

Could be pedantic...but....

You can't equate drivers who drives for a living and those who do it out of enjoyment. Lap times are all that matter fro F1 drivers, not feel (cheesy,yeah..but true..lol). DSG and sequentials and what not are not doubt faster, therefore, relevant to race teams, but for us? Not much, unless you time yourself while blasting through your favorite back roads, to which I say, more power to you.

For me, I take enjoyment in hitting that perfect heel and toe and slotting the gear as smooth as possible than worry about time...Might not be the same for you though.

Normal autobox (cvt & entry level dual-clutch included) on the road are not the same as F1 gearbox bro. What matters to F1 drivers and teams is not driving experience but lap times! The new Porsche 911's PDK is more efficient and faster zerotohundred time than it's 7-speed manual. However, many auto journalists prefer the manual version in terms of driving feel and satisfaction (this is from what I read lah...). I live in kampung area, seldom face traffic jam except during Hari Raya and Chinese New Year only, heheh..

Hahaha, of course, I know2. LH also special ordered his Zonda 760R in manual. I was just joking guys. I also very much prefer manual if not often stuck in jams.

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It's like driving a slow car fast get more thrill than driving a fast car slow.

Driving a slow car fast actually takes so much balls, bordering on lunacy! Cuz it takes forever to reach high speeds, while fast powerful cars reach the higher speeds effortlessly. Moreover, slow cars also handles like a crap in the corners, hence if you can corner fast in a slow car, then you're likely also a bit nuts!