Matching sports spring with stock absorbers ...appreciate feedback

marv3

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Hi Sifus,

I am new to the car mod scene. So any advise and feedback is greatly appreciated.

I am actually planning to lower my car. Im driving a 408T. I manage to find a lowering sport springs that can fit my car. It is call H&R.

My question is:

Is this brand good?
How is the spring rate? Very hard?
Will is spoil my shocks? Coz i read earlier that if the springs is not too hard, it is still ok to the shocks.

You feedbacks and advise are greatly appreciated.

Thank you
 

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Hi Sifus,

I am new to the car mod scene. So any advise and feedback is greatly appreciated.

I am actually planning to lower my car. Im driving a 408T. I manage to find a lowering sport springs that can fit my car. It is call H&R.

My question is:

Is this brand good?
How is the spring rate? Very hard?
Will is spoil my shocks? Coz i read earlier that if the springs is not too hard, it is still ok to the shocks.

You feedbacks and advise are greatly appreciated.

Thank you
I think it should be fine. H&R is a world famous suspension brand, just like Eibach. Many Euro cars sport springs are made by this brand.
 

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the best is still adjustables.
local GAB or any other generic brand will do.
which one is batter HWL,GAB,Zerone??

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So still best to either get a short stroke Absorbers like KYB RS or adjustables right?
is it KYB RS is adjustable?
or not..
 

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which one is batter HWL,GAB,Zerone??

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is it KYB RS is adjustable?
or not..
HWL for comfort, GAB slightly hard, no comment on zerone.

KYB RS is sport shocks non adjustable.
 

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which one is batter HWL,GAB,Zerone??

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is it KYB RS is adjustable?
or not..
KYB RS Pro is adjustables. KYB RS is just a sports absorber. Now got SR Series which is also sports absorber if IINM from KYB
 
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hi bros,
need help.any suggestion adjustable for persona. hehe. is it ok to fit larger rim after adjustable installation.

tq
 

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Hi Sifus,

I am new to the car mod scene. So any advise and feedback is greatly appreciated.

I am actually planning to lower my car. Im driving a 408T. I manage to find a lowering sport springs that can fit my car. It is call H&R.

My question is:

Is this brand good?
How is the spring rate? Very hard?
Will is spoil my shocks? Coz i read earlier that if the springs is not too hard, it is still ok to the shocks.

You feedbacks and advise are greatly appreciated.

Thank you
It will be stiffer. Depends on your tolerance, you may or may not like it. H&R/Eibach is best if paired with Bilstein B8 absorbers.
 

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i think maybe 17'.
If u are prepared for super hard ride and higher tyre cost then got for it.
With 17 rim u will have lower profile rubber which will makes the ride a but harder. Then the adjustable which is always harder than stock will makes it even harder.

If u dont mind it then go for it. Depending on your choice of rims, your can can look super cool and a bit underpower if u opt for cheap rim as they are heavier.
 

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if eibach spring can masuk 2jari n comfortability acceptable for me because my accord n f30 use eibach..h&r 1 jari n stiffer..bcause h&r spring shorter..but theres some people complained bout h&r..they said sometimes they heard the spring like tendang when corner..
 

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if eibach spring can masuk 2jari n comfortability acceptable for me because my accord n f30 use eibach..h&r 1 jari n stiffer..bcause h&r spring shorter..but theres some people complained bout h&r..they said sometimes they heard the spring like tendang when corner..
Spring tendang means it moves or spins on its mount.
I exp it before but with stock spring and absorber.
Solve it by removing the absorber, clean the mount bot on the top mount and absorber, clean the spring where it will sit on the absorber. Reinstall back.
Do not use lubrication fluid as it will make ting worse.
 

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Spring tendang means it moves or spins on its mount.
I exp it before but with stock spring and absorber.
Solve it by removing the absorber, clean the mount bot on the top mount and absorber, clean the spring where it will sit on the absorber. Reinstall back.
Do not use lubrication fluid as it will make ting worse.
i know bro..but this is not the case that the spring masuk x ngam..it happens because of the spring is too short..if the spring masuk xngam it happens a lot to those who just changed their ori spring to sport..dat one because the pomen from hugo klang shop pasang..they usually follow their heart oni when pasang barang.. :nurse:
 

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Hi all,

Thank you for your feedback and advise on the H&R. I think im ok with it being stiffer. But my concern is that it is too short to the extend that it expedite the reduction of the absorber's life. I understand no matter what springs, once you change springs, the absorbers life will be reduce. I just dont want it to reduce so fast. Hahahaha. So thats why i asked if H&R will match my car's stock absorber or not? =)

But now im abit concern coz of the spring tendang issue....Hmmmmmm
 

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Hi all,

Thank you for your feedback and advise on the H&R. I think im ok with it being stiffer. But my concern is that it is too short to the extend that it expedite the reduction of the absorber's life. I understand no matter what springs, once you change springs, the absorbers life will be reduce. I just dont want it to reduce so fast. Hahahaha. So thats why i asked if H&R will match my car's stock absorber or not? =)

But now im abit concern coz of the spring tendang issue....Hmmmmmm
Nope. H&R Springs are shorter than stock so your car will be lowered. It'll probably half the lifespan of your stock absorbers.

Suggest you look up Koni + Eibach Prokit as well. Koni has a pretty interesting valve system in their shocks
 

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Nope. H&R Springs are shorter than stock so your car will be lowered. It'll probably half the lifespan of your stock absorbers.

Suggest you look up Koni + Eibach Prokit as well. Koni has a pretty interesting valve system in their shocks
better find adjustable terus if like that? :idea:
 

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Nope. H&R Springs are shorter than stock so your car will be lowered. It'll probably half the lifespan of your stock absorbers.

Suggest you look up Koni + Eibach Prokit as well. Koni has a pretty interesting valve system in their shocks


Hi,

Thanks for the feedback. I understand that the H&R springs is lower. But how low can the car go or should the car go, before it reduces the stock absorbers lifespan exponentially?

My plan is to get the sports/lowered springs first. Then when stock absorber kaput...then only get a new shocks. So now the choice of my springs is important, as it will determine which shocks i will pair it with. H&R Springs + Bilstein B8.....or Eibach Springs + Koni STR (if it fits my car).

Thanks guys....
 

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better find adjustable terus if like that? :idea:
I think adjustables for Peugeots aren't cheap. Koni + Eibach or H&R + Bilsteins aren't that cheap either but cheaper than adjustables in this range.

Thanks for the feedback. I understand that the H&R springs is lower. But how low can the car go or should the car go, before it reduces the stock absorbers lifespan exponentially?
You gotta understand it's got nothing to do with "how low". A sports oriented spring compresses and rebounds much quicker than the standard spring since it is shorter. A stock absorber normally is long stroke which allows for more comfort. If you pair the two, imagine the spring rebounding/compressing fast and the absorber not completely compressing/expanding and pre-compressed height (due to height of spring). It'll probably be quite uncomfortable and it'll kill the absorbers faster.

But having said that cars like the Proton Preve uses short stroke stock absorbers and is quite comfortable. So try to find out what type of absorber is on your car and you'll be able to determine whether or not it'll work or not with sports springs.
 

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Thanks for the feedback. So you mean if i change to a lowered sport springs, there will not be any improvement in handling performance? Just for looks only.

And are u suggesting that my Peugeot 408T is not advisable to change to sports spring first and later only change the shocks? Better to just change both one shot?

Thank you very much guys
 

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Thanks for the feedback. So you mean if i change to a lowered sport springs, there will not be any improvement in handling performance? Just for looks only.

And are u suggesting that my Peugeot 408T is not advisable to change to sports spring first and later only change the shocks? Better to just change both one shot?

Thank you very much guys
Improve handling sure got but then just that you cant use stock springs with stock absorber.
You need sports absorber at least to match with sports springs if not your stock absorber lifespan will be shorten as well and sooner or later still need to change to sports absorber.
 
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