VTEC turbo

minivan said:
never take ur eye off the temperature gauge... :biggrin:

with any turbo, heat is the biggest enemy, cooling is always important. U should consider an alluminium twin core radiator, samco hoses, oil cooler, monster CF bonnet with those air ducts... besides the normal use of a good oil and having it regularly serviced...

a good engine management and setup also protects the engine against pre-ignition, detonation, boost creep, etc... its not just there to squeeze extra power...

Im currently using the standard radiator for the moment, but that will be in my next change list...but u got any recommendation for the rad? where i can get a reasonable price...price range.??i herd it go up to 1000++, any other cheaper alternative?
 
try frc behind speed-d's workshop in sunway. they're very reasonable an also professional, at least to me.
 
phat7 said:
try frc behind speed-d's workshop in sunway. they're very reasonable an also professional, at least to me.
price range round how much?? thank for ur info...
 
EG6SiRT? said:
Im currently using the standard radiator for the moment, but that will be in my next change list...but u got any recommendation for the rad? where i can get a reasonable price...price range.??i herd it go up to 1000++, any other cheaper alternative?

Std radiator as in single core?? Gonna overheat le...Cheaper alternative would be triple core copper radiator, around Rm500
 
EGfan said:
Std radiator as in single core?? Gonna overheat le...Cheaper alternative would be triple core copper radiator, around Rm500

Std B16 rad..so far i drove from kl-jb, jb-pen..also, stuck in KL jam...no problem, but not boostin all the way la, sure kaput...but just a precaution..triple core will be good...where bout can i get such copper rad??
 
EG6SiRT? said:
Std B16 rad..so far i drove from kl-jb, jb-pen..also, stuck in KL jam...no problem, but not boostin all the way la, sure kaput...but just a precaution..triple core will be good...where bout can i get such copper rad??

got mine from a workshop in klang. Custom made plug and play. But have to order first.
 
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EGfan said:
got mine from a workshop in klang. Custom made plug and play. But have to order first.
ok bro, if i wanna mke the rd fr ur place ill pm u...cheers mate!
 
Hi all,
EG6SIRT,I would like to know where you get your turbo installed,I called up some tuner shops and most of them quote me RM8k.Do you have any shop to recommend?I have tight budget,looking into +-rm6k.Thanks
 
wah, RM6k budget only for a VTEC turbo kit? not enough RMs la bro, you need at least 8k for a simple, 'standard' turbo kit bossting about 0.6 or so. and about 2-3k's more if want more power ( thick radiator, have to do less compression, maybe diff pistons etc )
 
jc144878 said:
Hi all,
EG6SIRT,I would like to know where you get your turbo installed,I called up some tuner shops and most of them quote me RM8k.Do you have any shop to recommend?I have tight budget,looking into +-rm6k.Thanks

ya la bro, 6k is not enuff to run a safe vtec turbo...8k is quite ok...wut do they offer in the 8k package>??hopefully they can make it reliable vtec turbo....
unless ure running on small turbo with std piston and also standard primary injector with maybe sub injector...maybe u can kao tim with the mechanic and tell them wut u want...
 
I remember some civic spent rm6k for basic stuff including e-manage for his turbo(read it some where in forum).The package they offer for 8k is manifold(custom),intercooler,injector,e-manage,turbo(td04).I saw ebay selling rm3-4k kit,but i need the custom manifold and a reliable mechanic.How much did u guys spent on a vtec turbo?Did your engine sound differently after installing turbo?what's your fuel consumption?
 
jc144878 said:
I remember some civic spent rm6k for basic stuff including e-manage for his turbo(read it some where in forum).The package they offer for 8k is manifold(custom),intercooler,injector,e-manage,turbo(td04).I saw ebay selling rm3-4k kit,but i need the custom manifold and a reliable mechanic.How much did u guys spent on a vtec turbo?Did your engine sound differently after installing turbo?what's your fuel consumption?

if u can get the stuff outside by urself and the project will be cheaper...the expensive parts that u cant avoid is the turbo manifeold and also the intercooler piping...so it all depends on wut u want to install to ur car...
i cant tell u how much exactly but it is a LOT for me as I been working on it for the past 2 years...
the sound will be different from your NA for sure...
fuel consumption is great...provided you dont boost much(but if boost much..sorry cant help u)....better than i used my NA previously. When travelling long distance for instance to Penang...i can save as much as rm10 for the whole journey compared to my NA. Only my opinion n experienced...maybe the rest got theirs...
 
VTEC Turbo is the way to go.....Stronger block, better flowing head, stronger pistons, connecting rods...etc

There is a limit to how much you can boost of course....but it is not that far off from non VTEC engines (e.g. B18B or DOHC USDM 1.8 140 hp engine) Most important is engine management, with good ECU and proper AF Ratio tuning you can do wonders with a VTEC turbo. (worry about VTEC engaging, just adjust it to engage later and tune overlap with adjustable cam gears)

Many ppl in the US run about 10 psi (0.8 bar) safely on B18C1 (Integra GSR 170 hp stock engine) to about 200 to 220 whp

However, since VTEC engines are NA to begin with there are a lot of parts: gauges, computer, fuel injectors, exhaust manifold, turbo, intercooler, piping, fuel pump which all need to be properly tuned together....

http://www.turbo-kits.com/b18ci_gsr_vtec_dyno.html
240 hp at wheel with stock engine :retarded:
 
:shades_smile: No matte how good your tuning is, d long lasting n reliable turbo pressure with std. CR. ratio 4 Honda Vtec B series stock internal block 2 withstand will be:

1] 10 psi 4 B16/b18
2] 8.5 psi 4 B20 or D16 SOHC.
 
Force Performance said:
:shades_smile: No matte how good your tuning is, d long lasting n reliable turbo pressure with std. CR. ratio 4 Honda Vtec B series stock internal block 2 withstand will be:

1] 10 psi 4 B16/b18
2] 8.5 psi 4 B20 or D16 SOHC.

Yeah man....I strongly agree. :_:
 
NA Vtec + turbo = MORE POWERFUL!!!

Tuning is very important...
 
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Boost vs hp

Force Performance said:
:shades_smile: No matte how good your tuning is, d long lasting n reliable turbo pressure with std. CR. ratio 4 Honda Vtec B series stock internal block 2 withstand will be:

1] 10 psi 4 B16/b18
2] 8.5 psi 4 B20 or D16 SOHC.

But please remember.... 10psi from TD04 is not the same with 10psi from GT35, like heaven and earth. Its depand on the turbine compressor efficiency and how much air that the turbine can flow.

Better rate the engine with power than boost pressure level.

So, next time if u wanna boost your honda vtec, set your power level first and do the reverse engineering from there.

Cheers
 
:shades_smile: Tis everyday uses 10 psi pressure must be generated from d optimum turbo sizing 4 d B16/18. n should b perfectly tuned without detonation.

If tend 2 replace a huge 500 hp turbo n run 10 psi in tis Honda engine. due 2 its long delay [lag] in producing boost till high rpm, it should not have enough combustion time 2 destruct d engine easily.
 
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