V-tec Vs Mivec

[zac]

You want an NA powerful to save hassle right? Why don't you just BOT your current engine, no need JPJ, no hassle also, can remained auto yet enough power to overtake most of the car... low boost is reliable also... 4.5k to 6k for a half cut?? it's either 5 yrs ago price or just engine only...

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

i prefer more on supercharge~!

 

[vishnnu]

zac,thanks for coming up with this BOT thingy....care to explain abit about it,the cost of it n would my stock engine be able to handle the pressure??i about the auto,i've thought of goin manual but if the BOT works fine with auto,then let it be auto then......angel,supercharger great as well.....any unit for stock waja for or change to supercharger engine??

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

try to check at speedzone. they now promote supercharge weh

 

[vishnnu]

speedzone??where ah?how to check??

 

[zac]

Bolt on turbo low boost is simple, hassle free and cheaper compare to supercharge, also produce enough torque for you, it can be tailored made to suit your requirement as well. Price ranged from 6k and above based on what brand you use, the one i checked earlier for my car come with turbo, injector, bov, intercooler piping, emanage & etc... as is low boost, no need to change cluth or gb, no need to use bigger radiator... but the most important thing is you can upgrade to bigger turbine in later stage. As for supercharge, there are too much limitation in terms of size, spec and potential.

Looking at current trend, with the modernised turbo technology, most of the car manufacturer opt for turbo rather than supercharge. Ranged from continental to japan, you can hardly see any new supercharge car model launched...:slug:

I just notice one important thing, WE ARE OUT OF TOPIC~~

 

[vishnnu]

well,the idea of just getting a freakin vtec type r halfcut,costs around rm10k plus still lingers in my mind.....so,we're not out of the topic......just that u guys are explaining a newbie what to end up with without any disaster.....gotta start searchin for halfcuts now....if the costs is not that high,i guess i'll just swap the engine...if not,bolt on then........hehehe,sounds like that cartoon,Voltron

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

buy hypertune, u can see those advertisement of speedzone

 

[vishnnu]

and where would their adds be coz i haven't come across any of their adds........

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

i think u reli nid to use google~!
http://www.powerzone.com.my/products.html

 

[vishnnu]

bro,i noticed another thread goin on about 4g18 bangin 400bhp.....can ah?my waja pumps what,105bhp right??sorry if i'm wrong,by me getting this BOT,then whole exhaust system plus abit of this n that,i'll actually end up with approx 150ps-160ps,right??

 

[zac]

The 150-160ps is on safe side, if you boost higher with better internal ofcos you can go way beyond 200ps, but then that would cost you a bomb... 400ps in 4G18? can be done, but not worth it...

Bump: The 150-160ps is on safe side, if you boost higher with better internal ofcos you can go way beyond 200ps, but then that would cost you a bomb... 400ps in 4G18? can be done, but not worth it...

 

[vishnnu]

okay,i read about the Powerzone Waja which had the bhp increased from 102bhp to 142bhp by adding high performance camshaft,4-2-1 tuned length extractor,port n polished head,Unichip Piggyback,LSD conversion kit n exedy semi racing clutch......so,it is posibble to achieve approx 150bhp without a turbo......how much would all those stuff mentioned costs??

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

lsd = 2k
hi cam = 1k
full exhaust system = 1.5k hahahahhaha seriously it cost u more then 5K i guess shud be around 6 - 8K ed...

 

[zac]

okay,i read about the Powerzone Waja which had the bhp increased from 102bhp to 142bhp by adding high performance camshaft,4-2-1 tuned length extractor,port n polished head,Unichip Piggyback,LSD conversion kit n exedy semi racing clutch......so,it is posibble to achieve approx 150bhp without a turbo......how much would all those stuff mentioned costs??

Eh... camshaft around 1k+, 4-2-1 500+, unichip 1.2k+, port polished 800-1.5k+, lsd not sure, semi racing around 1k also... but NA 142hp only produce at hi rpm range, not so useful at low speed... and keep flooring pedal will waste your petrol as well... i myself opt for BOT cos my ride is daily use, i need low end torque... although now my ride is 170-180ps but still feel sluggish :slug:unless over 3.5krpm... just my 2 cents~~

 

[vishnnu]

gedebak-gedebuk,rm6k gone like that on a standard engine....better BOT or swap engine.....

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

bro, i thnk u nid to see the dyno chart first n see where the improvement. if the improvement start from 2k, then the car shud be improve from the low end. since a lot of stuff include here, the improvement might be significant. i never see the dyno b4 so i cant say about the improvement

 

[vishnnu]

i think i'm just gonna put on hold my thoughts of the engine upgrade n gain more knowledge first about these mods.....then perhaps i could make up my mind on what would suit me the best.....thank you bro's for sharing ur knowledge with me....i am 20cent wiser now

 

[ham_m2]

1.6 mivec,9k??but i've come across some with the price of only 4.5k to 6k......price went up that high d,is it??so,how would i know which one would be producing a healthy output without a turbo unit to it??as far as the vtec concerned,could anyone tell me if the swapping is still being done or not,i mean is it legal....vtec into Waja??always preferred vtec to a mivec......sugar,what was the video about??

Bump: 1.6 mivec,9k??but i've come across some with the price of only 4.5k to 6k......price went up that high d,is it??so,how would i know which one would be producing a healthy output without a turbo unit to it??as far as the vtec concerned,could anyone tell me if the swapping is still being done or not,i mean is it legal....vtec into Waja??always preferred vtec to a mivec......sugar,what was the video about??

yeap...the price gone higher as a lot of demand for mivec...
Vtec can be put into Waja put need a lot of thing to be modify as Mivec can be plug and play on a waja...but vtec is not in Mitsubishi region...

 

[keisukosan]

analyse between mivec and vtec sure u will know which wan is more power,for me sure vtec...