My KE70 project

[rollakid]

bro ... expensive ka to upgade Ae86 eng up to 200 hp ....

just wondering laa .... if i ve got luck draw then up grade lerr ... he he ...

http://www.toda-racing.jp/product/onemake_e/4ag/4ag-10-2.jpg


might as well go buy a new car or something, summore i bet you'll need racing fuel to get the full power...

 

[r47107]

Rollkid,

where the workshop for your conversion? I also got KE and now doing some bodywork and plan to do conversion very soon. BTW I need some info, how much is the half cut of 4 AGE 16V and the W/S upah?

 

[rollakid]

Rollkid,

where the workshop for your conversion? I also got KE and now doing some bodywork and plan to do conversion very soon. BTW I need some info, how much is the half cut of 4 AGE 16V and the W/S upah?

hi r47107,

firstly, i live in kuching sarawak, so where i do my conversion might be abit useless for you.

i bought my engine from EFN, and alot of the remaining parts from local chop shop (prob of not getting a halfcut... sigh~). so i dun really knwo price of halfcuts, but i do heard from my friend few months ago an ae86 halfcut up for sell locally here in kuching for over rm4k *pengsan* but good thing is that its a direct swap to ke70, less headache.. might end up cheaper as well.

 

[Acoustic]

16v version haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

got 20v pics or not?

http://www.toda-racing.jp/product/onemake_e/4ag/4ag-10-2.jpg


might as well go buy a new car or something, summore i bet you'll need racing fuel to get the full power...

 

[rollakid]

20v dun have lar~ already got ITB, no need inner shim kit, and toda din make ecu for 20v what.. only some parts...

eh, just asking, full set 20v piston rings cost how much ar? stock or aftermarket dun care lar.. now engine abit eat oil...

 

[r47107]

hi r47107,

firstly, i live in kuching sarawak, so where i do my conversion might be abit useless for you.

i bought my engine from EFN, and alot of the remaining parts from local chop shop (prob of not getting a halfcut... sigh~). so i dun really knwo price of halfcuts, but i do heard from my friend few months ago an ae86 halfcut up for sell locally here in kuching for over rm4k *pengsan* but good thing is that its a direct swap to ke70, less headache.. might end up cheaper as well.

Thaks for the reply, just wanna clarify a few thing b4 go into action:

a) Front disk brek - Can I change to AE86 the whole brake together with master cylinder without modification?

b) Radiator - can we used the stock one ?
c) Fan - Of course the stock one can't be used which car is compatible?
d) Fuel Tank - Do we need to change to AE86 one?
e) Gear box /axle/cross over member - Change to AE86 rite?
f) Clutch how?

Anything else do I miss. Thanks..:regular_smile:

 

[rollakid]

a) Front disk brek - Can I change to AE86 the whole brake together with master cylinder without modification?

for my case, master cylinder bolt straight in without any modification (that i know). AE86's front suspension is slightly different, but i guess most mechanic will know how to put them in no problem (i'm still using stock brakes and suspension)

b) Radiator - can we used the stock one ?

stock ke70 radiator is abit too small for 4age, especially when both engine's and aircond's radiator stack together, so during afternoon you switch on the aircond and wait at the traffic light, your engine will go overheat in 5 minutes (at least for my 20v thats the case, dunno about 16v)

c) Fan - Of course the stock one can't be used which car is compatible?

my mech just find me some fan that seems to fit, if you can find ae86 halfcut then just use everything that is from the halfcut.

d) Fuel Tank - Do we need to change to AE86 one?

yes you need it. either that or you have to find and external (preferably) fuel pump but then you must keep like at least 10 liter of petrol in the fuel tank or else your pump will have problem sucking petrol when your car corner, unless you have a fuel surge tank.

e) Gear box /axle/cross over member - Change to AE86 rite?

yes, although i've seen on some website saying k50 can still be used; axle i'm still using stock ke70's; crossmember sifu acoustic mention last time that stock ke70 crossmember can be used, but i'm using ae86's

f) Clutch how?

just use the clutch come with the engine.

Anything else do I miss. Thanks..:regular_smile:

fuel line. you will need bigger fuel pipe since 4ag uses more fuel.

 

[rollakid]

guys, need opinion & experience from all of you:

anyone here running their silvertop without o2 sensor before? how much more fuel is consumed if the ecu is running open loop all the time?

its been 2 weeks since my car is done transplanting the engine (well, partially, the car can run on the road now...). I pump around 32.5liter of petrol into the car, rm60+, assuming there's still a few liter left in the tank almost empty.

now i've only run about 230+km and the fuel tank is empty again. thats insane man.. 30++liter petrol go 230km?? and exhaust fume smell like unburn petrol. fuel line is 8-10mm copper pipe (din know the exact diameter, just roughly), fuel presure regulator seems to be stock. I'm using 4-1 header 1.5"-1.9" then after the header i'm still using my stock 4k exhaust/muffler. and 90% of the time i drive slowly and normally..

so, is this only the fault of the lack of a sensor? can be fix with just an o2 sensor?

 

[DaRk_AnG3L]

Whew, finally free...

Thx for the ride during autokhana day chris... butt-dyno tested tauhu2's SVT yesterday... no seats inside his yet... so sit on bare metal above his header... haha... Power wise IMHO, cos tauhu2 changed his flow and exhaust piping, seems better... his suspension setup is also much harder and meant for performance... when u gonna upgrade the rest of ur car chris? =)

 

[rollakid]

power wise surely his one better lar, got a few main point

- HIS CAR IS STRIPPED!!
- he use 4-2-1 header, me use 4-1, and that day i didn't even rev high, so lower torque
- his final drive is way better than mine, mine don't even have much acceleration

yeah he told me about it yesterday, say he amaze how you hold yourself inside the car XD. when i upgrade the rest of the car ar? haiyo not so fast lar no money, tauhu start his project like 2 years already me baru 1month+ dun rush me lar XD no money also.

 

[BLaCkHoWLiNG]

16v version haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

got 20v pics or not?

GOT!!made in china wan.... ;)

 

[Acoustic]

aahahaaahahhahaahahahhahahahahaa we wish :)

 

[artnet]

power wise surely his one better lar, got a few main point

- HIS CAR IS STRIPPED!!
- he use 4-2-1 header, me use 4-1, and that day i didn't even rev high, so lower torque
- his final drive is way better than mine, mine don't even have much acceleration

yeah he told me about it yesterday, say he amaze how you hold yourself inside the car XD. when i upgrade the rest of the car ar? haiyo not so fast lar no money, tauhu start his project like 2 years already me baru 1month+ dun rush me lar XD no money also.

tauhu's ke70 'eat' ae100 bt easily.... :cry_smile:

 

[rollakid]

tauhu's ke70 'eat' ae100 bt easily.... :cry_smile:

haiz.. what to do.. panda monster. hmm.. we should name his car Pandamon watch too many anime liau...

never sit in his car when all the things is sorted out yet, i bet its blardy fast now, no way i can catch up for now.

 

[DaRk_AnG3L]

400m drag should be lagging less than 1 car larh... haha... but tauhu's pandamon 0-100 really song... probably around 5-6 secs over a stretch of 200m++...

Yalah... you didn't really high rev ur engine the other day... haha... petrol expensive also, kenot blame u...hehe... next project change flow and exhaust arh?

Tauhu2 car reminds me of the model cars... cos he gather all the parts 1st then assemble them up... that's y take 2 years plus his project... =) Anyways GaMbAtEH chris!

 

[rollakid]

not model car lar.. kit car XD

that day din rev high not cuz of petrol, coz of other things lar. first, when try power we have car both left and right, scare later got something happen i hit other ppl's car. second, ran out of road, roundabout already, my suspension stock cannot go fast. third, you forgot i got friend follow me ar? if i keep on reving later he cannot catch up ler XD. and you know lar, autokhana event, got police around one... i scare they catch me then jialat cuz engine not yet register -_-

 

[DaRk_AnG3L]

Yalarh...hehe... but still fc most important... bcos fuel = money... if waste... no $$$ to kaichia liao...haha... nowadays fuel price increase jiak lat... RM40 run about 300km onli... =(

Aiyoh... i noe ur car fast larh...fren cannot catch up... hehe...but in comparison his car should be a bit lighter than yours, so theoretically should be faster neglecting all other variables =P

 

[rollakid]

RM40 run about 300km onli... =(

aiyo dun 'kek' me lar.. i know your fc good, me rm62 go 240km only T_T

 

[swap aka SWAP]

me also same ler..rm10 juz for 55km-60km only..when jem..sure mkn..shift gear many time..

 

[rollakid]

me rm10 go 40km wor... but then i stuck in jams and go around car park looking for space 20-30% of the time lar...