What the hell is wrong with JPJ ?!

[ExceL]

Alright, here's the deal.

I'm in the process of buying a car (stock, local), as it is compulsory to have it inspected by Puspakom, the used car fella insured me that there will be no problems because the car is all standard.

According to the fella, it will take a day, most 2 days. He said Puspakom was not able to read the engine number properly, apparently there was some "dirt" on it. So why couldn't they just...oh I dont know, clean it?.

So Puspakom directed the used car fella to go to JPJ to get some sort of letter. A week later, JPJ said the letter is ready. But the used car fella said he "cant get an appointment" with the JPJ..wtf? Is this complete bullshit? Is the JPJ not happy that they are no longer getting "ang pow" on a regular basis?

Anyone else run into this problem before, first time I'v heard it, and I'm experiencing it first hand.

 

[satria_95]

Excel,
Looks like the car dealer is just plain screwed. Any chance of you getting your dough back and buying the car else where? If chances are good that you'll get your dough back, buy it else where. Else, give `em hell! hahaha

 

[eshamz]

I think the problem came from the car dealer not JPJ or puspakom......I myself few times sent my car and my friend car to puspakom for inspection and the service is about half an hour....no problem with puspakom so far....why the car dealer want to set appointment with the JPJ....if the car and the engine is in stock condition just walk in jer laaaa bro........no need apointment....unless the engine is already convert or in "ROJAK" condition.......I myself never set an apointment with JPJ just walk in jer....

 

[Yee]

I think the problem came from the car dealer not JPJ or puspakom......I myself few times sent my car and my friend car to puspakom for inspection and the service is about half an hour....no problem with puspakom so far....why the car dealer want to set appointment with the JPJ....if the car and the engine is in stock condition just walk in jer laaaa bro........no need apointment....unless the engine is already convert or in "ROJAK" condition.......I myself never set an apointment with JPJ just walk in jer....

Totally agreed with eshamz, the car u're buying "might" have problem.

That's no way the engine number cannot be seen. For ur information, last time i used to think that the MR2 engine number is really... really... & extremely hard to see. and when i brought my MR2 to puspakom for inspection when i about to sell it, those puspakom guys got it done in 15mins.

why don't u ask the dealer take the car and go to puspakom one more time together with u. Tell him u wan to see the inspection urself. (If he refuse and gives u lots of stupid reason then u have to becareful on the deal) Also, make sure the engine number matches the one printed at the car registeration card one. (if possible ask the puspakom guys to show u also, u have the right to know as u're the new owner/ buyer)

What if the car that u're going to buy is a "Joint" car, and the dealer is trying to "settle" the problems with the JPJ or puspakom guys. (this is a real case scenario) Careful when u're buying a car. Good luck.

 

[ExceL]

I've only paid a small down payment..but this way too much of an inconvenience. Took me a good long time to find a suitable car, now thinking of looking for another, headache.

Let say it get sorted (eventually). With all the proper paper with the corresponding numbers all match on paper & on the car, then all will be well right? Wont encounter problems in the future?

 

[Yee]

*touch wood* if your car is a joint car..then in the future you will have problem selling it. (Did u bring ur mechanic to check on the car before u pay d/p?)

As for your engine number, if it matches the one printed on the car registration card then it will be fine. Mind telling what car u're buying?? does it come with a moded engine?

 

[ExceL]

*touch wood* if your car is a joint car..then in the future you will have problem selling it. (Did u bring ur mechanic to check on the car before u pay d/p?)

As for your engine number, if it matches the one printed on the car registration card then it will be fine. Mind telling what car u're buying?? does it come with a moded engine?

I didnt bring a mechanic, but I sort of know what to look for in a "cut & joint" car. No welding anywhere near the door, door sills, a-pillar, fender...body panels looks straight, gaps look even as well. Did I miss anything?

Its just a standard Proton with 1 prior lady owner.

 

[Yee]

Ohh i see. But make sure the car doesn't involve in major car accident. To be honest, i myself don't really know how to see whether its a joint car. Therefore, most of the time i'll bring the workshop guy together with me when buying a car. :) Again...all the best on your new ride man! :)

 

[nokia]

Well, there must some problem there on that car. Just leave it and ask for refund else choose another car.

The puspakom checking is very simple.
For name transfer, they just check the chasis (joint car), Chasis code and engine code. They dun care the car can run or not. Oh ya.. tinted. They ask u to remove it on the spot.
I even see b 4 the car is towing to do inspection. (old car for restoration)

The process is about half an hour or less, but the q to wait for your turn take more then that.
Total charge is RM45. Jpj charge RM105 for name transfer. (amount not accurate, but its about there)

Here is my experience which i see b 4,
1) Car been towed to puspakom do inspection for name transfer.
2) Joint car, the puspakom took half an hour to remove seat, pillar cover, go under the car to check everything. Once the confirm its joint car, then they will suspend it and owner cant bring back the car. And long stories goes on.
3) Approved with terms. The car have accident b 4, some pillar, bell housing is joint or re-weld. This car must send for safety checking, have record in puspakom in terms of getting approval. If there is no record in puspakom, then they will request u to do safety checking 1st b 4 approved for name transfer.
4) Tinted. Some of the car have heavy tinted. In terms of getting approval, the owner must tear it off on the spot in puspakom. Of coz, sumtimes i can see some car just walk away with it.

Please refer to puspakom website for further details. This may help.

I suggest u walk in to puspakom with the car dealer. So u can understand the whole story.

 

[ExceL]

I guess I'll have to let go of this one,.. Back to searching..

Apparently one digit on the engine number cant be see on the car (wtf?), my guess, an accident caused other parts to hit the engine or something.

 

[Yee]

that's weird...How did u notice the 1 digit engine number disappear?

 

[ExceL]

that's weird...How did u notice the 1 digit engine number disappear?

That was the start of the problems. Puspakom said cant see the serials clearly, told to go to JPJ for some paperwork. Then on the day suppose to collect, say cant get appointment . Next day pulak say the guy that suppose to sign all the papers are not in pulak.. If drag on like this, dont know what else excuse I will hear.. So the people can go fly kites, I take my business somewhere else.

Fed up la

 

[lan evo]

puspakom inspection wont take so long with all proper document

just sent my car to endorse engine,with noisy muffler,noisy clucth,heavy tinted.only tinted not pass,so buang the tinted on the spot.kaotim..

 

[clanzkiller]

puspakom inspection wont take so long with all proper document

just sent my car to endorse engine,with noisy muffler,noisy clucth,heavy tinted.only tinted not pass,so buang the tinted on the spot.kaotim..

fuiyyyooo noisy clutch sia....power!!

 

[ExceL]

puspakom inspection wont take so long with all proper document

just sent my car to endorse engine,with noisy muffler,noisy clucth,heavy tinted.only tinted not pass,so buang the tinted on the spot.kaotim..

that's alarming

 

[nokia]

ok... i have facing the same problem as u are.

1 digit missing.

So, for my case, my 1967 VW Beetle engine number is XX123456
but in my geran, its XX12356.
The engine was changed and endorsed since year 1996, but onli notice this mistake by 2008.
So i went to JPJ to check their database record, its XX12356. After some advice from the officer, i have to go to puspakom to check the engine number again. With the results gain from puspakom, i refer back to JPJ and settle my case. It only took me 2 days overall.

Good luck to u.

 

[ExceL]

ok... i have facing the same problem as u are.

1 digit missing.

So, for my case, my 1967 VW Beetle engine number is XX123456
but in my geran, its XX12356.
The engine was changed and endorsed since year 1996, but onli notice this mistake by 2008.
So i went to JPJ to check their database record, its XX12356. After some advice from the officer, i have to go to puspakom to check the engine number again. With the results gain from puspakom, i refer back to JPJ and settle my case. It only took me 2 days overall.

Good luck to u.

I've already canceled my purchase, I'm glad I did. It took 8days in total for me, and on the 8th day, it still wasn't settled. I've learned a lesson, check the engine number AT the time of viewing.