COPS = Coil Over Plugs

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Lets explain all ignition system (that I know of)

1st distributor

2nd waste spark (dual coil firing 1&4 then 2&3 and needs a crank & cam angle sensor, still have 2 plug cables)

3rd COPs (4 coils, each coil above each plug, no plug cable, still needs crank & cam angle sensor)

1st - no need to explain, I'm sure everyone knows



2nd - coil is smaller than distributor type by 1/2 - but runs 2 coils. The triggering is from the ECU (i.e. requires ECU with pre-programmed waste spark system).

Although the triggering is from ECU, which is software, it still needs a hardware to physically triggers the coils.

The hardware is called a "ignitor" and waste spark system either runs 2 single channel ignitor or run 1 dual channel ignitor.

standard GZE system runs 1 ignitor but dual channel, so does the mitsubishis. Except of old models.




Finally, COPs.

It will require a ECU with software for 4 triggers (software).

The hardware is a 4 channels ignitor.

The coils are 1/2 size smaller than waste spark. So this makes it 1/4 smaller than distributor type.

The reason they can be small is because their resting time is 3/4 longer than signal coil.

Their resting time is 1/2 longer than waste spark.

The ignition timing is only 0.5 degrees more accurate than distributor, no big deal, easily correctable by any methods of spark plug gap, or distributor angle.








All these ignition systems still needs a measurement devide. The standard distributor can be modifed to become a measurement device only, just like GZE and mitsubishis type. No need seperate crank & cam angle sensor like WAJA.

This is not necessary the best, but definitely less maintaince. Seperate crank & cam sensor means 2 sensor, often the crank sensor will be damage when changing timng belt because they are electro-magnetic measurement device, they are very prone to shock / vibration damages.

Sticking to single crank & cam sensor like GZE and mitsubishi reduces this chance of damage.

The difference / advantage is techonology is miminal, negligible for people like us. Only F1 needs to worry.


Summary, it's not only dist versus waste spark versus COPs, it's also what kind of measurement tehcnology to use.
 
waaaaa .. sifoo today so free one ?? nice long report .. heheheheheehe ... :P
 
Sifu.....if let say someone wanna install Blacktop 20V into FR application.

Except distributor relocation, what else we can use to the ignition system?
 
aiiyooooo....i know this already..........just to summarise it to be abit simple.....no need to write so technical n panjang...........

what ever the ignition u choose must have ignitor n some sort of sensor to know where the TDC is........aiiyooo

but thnx coz take some time from busy time to add in......hahehhahhahah
 
Originally posted by EG9@Dec 17 2004, 14:04
Sifu.....if let say someone wanna install Blacktop 20V into FR application.

Except distributor relocation, what else we can use to the ignition system?
answer = http://www.my-acoustic.com/Car/again_how/20v_into_KE70.htm
 
wahhh...
KE70 project,
price $$
4AG 20v with COPs mod into RW... = CA18DET + microtech = 4AG RWD + Microtech = 13B + microtech

which u choose.??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
i choose this....4AG RWD + Microtech

im biased maaaaa
 
Talkin about distributor.

Anyone here heard of Ford EDIS (Electronic Distributorless Ignition System)? it seems like most of the 4age at oversea is running on EDIS with megasquirt.. I'm still very blur about this EDIS. :X-:
 

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