ZOUK KL - Abuse

[edgar_raphael]

http://zoukabuse.blogspot.com/2005/11/on-29th-of-october-my-fian_113156885692194273.html

Not sure if this is a re-post.

Interesting case happened in ZOUK KL, to all you guys who have been going there all time, just want to share this story with you guys, it is better to know it than not knowing when matters go wrong. Hope this link here can help them :)


cheers

 

[links]

many bouncers in kl are rude.. especially the disco behind hotel shangrila in jln sultan ismail...

the bouncers there having a fight with a malay guy couple of years ago..then after that they onli realise the person they bullied is the raja of selangor...so they kena polis beaten up and need to compensate $$$$.....

i notice that certain race like to be bouncer and they think they are king once they become bouncer.....i am not racist just thats what i saw.... sorry for any hard feelings...

 

[zephyr3d]

this is definitely a repost.... :P

hahahaha.

 

[differ]

so what if he's Royalty? does it mean he has the right to go around starting trouble here and there?

just a few months ago, some Johor royalty messed up some stranger's wedding on an island for no apparent reason. imho, that guy deserves to get some royal whooping indeed.

some (not all) of these royalties act like complete hooligans just because they have "tengku" in front of their names. worse still, the so-called authorities protect them instead of protecting Justice.

in this case, he can't even blame on being "incapacitated by the alcohol" which caused him to go psycho. so then it's got to be the person who is innately violent and who needs a visit to the psychiatrist or even a lobotomy.

yes granted that a lot of bouncers in malaysia are violence-happy assholes. BUT if you start a ruckus in some other person's establishment, royalty or not, you are definitely asking for it.

and in the case of JuLee vs Zouk, well, the truth is still far from told. both sides have their own stories though i must say there are a lot of unaswered questions in JL's side of the story.

 

[DarkChild]

so what if he's Royalty? does it mean he has the right to go around starting trouble here and there?

just a few months ago, some Johor royalty messed up some stranger's wedding on an island for no apparent reason. imho, that guy deserves to get some royal whooping indeed.

some (not all) of these royalties act like complete hooligans just because they have "tengku" in front of their names. worse still, the so-called authorities protect them instead of protecting Justice.

in this case, he can't even blame on being "incapacitated by the alcohol" which caused him to go psycho. so then it's got to be the person who is innately violent and who needs a visit to the psychiatrist or even a lobotomy.

yes granted that a lot of bouncers in malaysia are violence-happy assholes. BUT if you start a ruckus in some other person's establishment, royalty or not, you are definitely asking for it.

and in the case of JuLee vs Zouk, well, the truth is still far from told. both sides have their own stories though i must say there are a lot of unaswered questions in JL's side of the story.

Agreed.... There are just too many things that just contradict each other in her story...

 

[ultraman]

if i were the "james"... i will pay back the 4 bouncer 5x what they did to "james"....

and of course not forgetting giving them "permanent damage"...:P

 

[sakuraguy]

ya ya y a .. same goes to everyone, go for enjoy ourselves, just be as we are .. dunt make any troubles or safe, just party at home. i have personally seen many of these ..

 

[edgar_raphael]

well, sorry again for the repost :D

anyway, I think what we have seen from the link that I had posted, is just one side of the story, which is from what is being told in the content, but if you try and waste some time reading the comments posted by the readers, then questions starts growing in your mind then you start making assumptions out of the readers comments, then for one second you might think, "yeah, why did she... " "why didnt she..."

But all i can say is, yes, at the state of panic, there is no why why why, everything you do happens for no reason.

hence, if this is true, I felt sorry for what happened and I hope the petition do help, and if this is a make-up, you better know what you are doing.

 

[infernaL]

a person with health complications when he drinks shouldnt drink in the 1st place
thats just asking for trouble

 

[jay_zonx]

they shouldnt be there in the first place. moreover still have the nerve to publish this. fiancee with health complications should know better. among all, his future wife to be should have the brains to judge this. wanted fun n excitement? i say they deserve this....

 

[DRiftAGster]

if u guys notice, that lady herself admitted that her james start to retaliate and "kick" 1 of those brainless bouncers when they come out from the toilet and the beating began.

if the "kick" didnt took place, i believe those bouncers wont react in such a way -- they may shout, shove, push or behave in watever rude manner but wont beat u like a dog UNLESS you start to hit them. they maybe be stupid and brainless animals but they still know they are not supposed to be the one to beat a customer/start a fight.

to me, i feel there is nothing wrong to go party even if he has health problem - everybody do things at their own risk, that's fine. but mistake was if u explain to a bunch of brainless animals and they dont understand, then just leave or try stand there and wait till someone from the management to come and talk things out, shouting in a bass bombing dance hall is definitely stupid.

i believe if the "kick" didnt took place, the bouncers would probably just surround them and force them to leave or hand them to the police, then they have a chance to clarify everything. but the whole thing changed when the spark started the fire.... sad case....

 

[benyeap]

I never support Zouk since I read this years ago.

 

[edgar_raphael]

Mate, did you realise that you have just replied to a thread last posted almost 5 years ago?

 

[benyeap]

Of course I knew it. This Zouk shit needs some refreshment to the public & club goers.

 

[Nats autoparts]

emmm the story i find it a bit ridiculous to believe

first of all why the hell did that women close the door
this already trigger something fishy going on in the loo room
she should instead ask for help outside the loo room

second... how come no police report file? since its some thing out rages being beaten up infront the public like " dog " as prescribe ....

probably i think they both did make out in the loo room...
hahahaha......

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Sometimes, is not that she don't want to seek for help. We are able to think "why didnt she do this and why didnt she do that or why she did tat" is because we are in a calm and relax condition sitting in front of the computer.

Imagine, knowing your BF/GF in trouble which might involve death, u will be all panicky and there is not much u can think of during that time. The only thing in mind is "I'm going to look for my BF/GF or to make sure of his conditions before asking for help". I mean, in that position, u definitely would want to go straight to your BF/GF to check on his/her condition.

I don't blame her for doing that. I would do the same in this emergency situation. There is Nothing much or time left to worried about those petty things other than worrying what is wrong with my lover.

Put urself in her shoes and u will understand how does it feels like knowing your lover is in trouble. If it is your gf who is in trouble is even worse, u might think some guys could be molesting her or could it be any worse? You wouldn't know what happen to her unless u check it out urself before asking for further assistance.

If a girl enters a guys Toilet is no big deal unless if a guy enters a girl's toilet which is really big deal.

Still how true it is, we wouldn't know. Just take this as an advise to us all.

 

[Nats autoparts]

Sometimes, is not that she don't want to seek for help. We are able to think "why didnt she do this and why didnt she do that or why she did tat" is because we are in a calm and relax condition sitting in front of the computer.

Imagine, knowing your BF/GF in trouble which might involve death, u will be all panicky and there is not much u can think of during that time. The only thing in mind is "I'm going to look for my BF/GF or to make sure of his conditions before asking for help". I mean, in that position, u definitely would want to go straight to your BF/GF to check on his/her condition.

I don't blame her for doing that. I would do the same in this emergency situation. There is Nothing much or time left to worried about those petty things other than worrying what is wrong with my lover.

Put urself in her shoes and u will understand how does it feels like knowing your lover is in trouble. If it is your gf who is in trouble is even worse, u might think some guys could be molesting her or could it be any worse? You wouldn't know what happen to her unless u check it out urself before asking for further assistance.

If a girl enters a guys Toilet is no big deal unless if a guy enters a girl's toilet which is really big deal.

Still how true it is, we wouldn't know. Just take this as an advise to us all.

had experience the same thing like her did before
but didnt act as foolish as she is, best part of all im a men and i went into a ladies washroom full of girls.. and trust me all the girls help me too.. its just how you take the scene for granted , not asking to be hero and save her bf in the loo alone by closing door. this wont help at all..
i face this situation many times...
shopping complex,cinema,washroom,public food place..
and now im well prepare...with .... minyak cap kapak...
hahaha....
one smell terus wake up..
this is not a joke.. my wife health got problem... at least now better ...
im not saying that im genius and that girl stupid.
its just that she didnt act wise enough..
and im more agree with those few ppl mentioned earlier that the guy already got health problem..
should he be more responsible with his health and appear in this club,...
perhaps they should go to better clubs with more fresh air and more open not like zouk..
so he is asking for death sentence i think..
hahaha.. no balls of flame bro..