Wastegate ????

[Lynx210]

Hi frens......

For our B8 (180 or 210) if want to change a wastegate how to justify the size ???? Can pls gv advice ??? Thanks...... ;)

 

[Lynx210]

No 1 can Help............. :o :huh: :( :blink: :unsure:

 

[DRFT_240sx]

depends on what turbo u are using and how much u are boosting

very subjective question developed from personal taste

 

[Lynx210]

DRFT ,
Thanks for reply .... ;)

Ok let say im using B8 210 Very ori n like to booost up to 0.9 now only 0.6 so what size or what type ?????

 

[SPEEDSPiRiT]

38??

 

[Lynx210]

Is that mean any type????
But they said not Thailand made why??????
38mm if use bigger is that meancan boost more ??

 

[jonhzc83]

maybe u can ask NiJ, the other day talked to him and he mention some size but i forgot liao... sorry cant help. KK and recommendation?? i m also interested! :rolleyes:

 

[tkk]

Originally posted by jonhzc83@Mar 1 2005, 21:27
maybe u can ask NiJ, the other day talked to him and he mention some size but i forgot liao... sorry cant help. KK and recommendation?? i m also interested! :rolleyes:

hi dude,

same as me HKS 40mm.. who interested go see the model in BSA ...

i think 35-40mm is good enough for our 1.8cc car..

 

[Lynx210]

Originally posted by tkk+Mar 2 2005, 15:56 -->

QUOTE (tkk @ Mar 2 2005, 15:56 )

--QuoteBegin-jonhzc83

@Mar 1 2005, 21:27 maybe u can ask NiJ, the other day talked to him and he mention some size but i forgot liao... sorry cant help. KK and recommendation?? i m also interested! :rolleyes:

hi dude, same as me HKS 40mm.. who interested go see the model in BSA ... i think 35-40mm is good enough for our 1.8cc car.. [/b][/quote] It's that mean dun care how many bar v boosting ??? Just bout this 1.8 cc v can use 35-40+mm ??? :blink:

 

[tkk]

Originally posted by Lynx210+Mar 2 2005, 17:20 -->

QUOTE (Lynx210 @ Mar 2 2005, 17:20 )

Originally posted by tkk@Mar 2 2005, 15:56 --QuoteBegin-jonhzc83

@Mar 1 2005, 21:27 maybe u can ask NiJ, the other day talked to him and he mention some size but i forgot liao... sorry cant help. KK and recommendation?? i m also interested! :rolleyes: hi dude, same as me HKS 40mm.. who interested go see the model in BSA ... i think 35-40mm is good enough for our 1.8cc car..

It's that mean dun care how many bar v boosting ??? Just bout this 1.8 cc v can use 35-40+mm ??? :blink: [/b][/quote] brother... how many boost you want to run first? HKS 40mm can go up to 400hp. ;)

 

[jonhzc83]

how much is a second hand wastegate HKS model.. the same as yours??? and also how much is the installation fees???

 

[jonhzc83]

Originally posted by tkk+Mar 2 2005, 22:16 -->

QUOTE (tkk @ Mar 2 2005, 22:16 )

Originally posted by Lynx210@Mar 2 2005, 17:20 Originally posted by tkk@Mar 2 2005, 15:56 --QuoteBegin-jonhzc83

@Mar 1 2005, 21:27 maybe u can ask NiJ, the other day talked to him and he mention some size but i forgot liao... sorry cant help. KK and recommendation?? i m also interested! :rolleyes: hi dude, same as me HKS 40mm.. who interested go see the model in BSA ... i think 35-40mm is good enough for our 1.8cc car.. It's that mean dun care how many bar v boosting ??? Just bout this 1.8 cc v can use 35-40+mm ??? :blink:

brother... how many boost you want to run first? HKS 40mm can go up to 400hp. ;) [/b][/quote] will there be any turbo lag... if an external wastegate is installed??? i know the responds when the turbo kicks in will be very much compare to an internal wastegate or actuator... but before it kicks in... any lag??

 

[NiJ]

Originally posted by jonhzc83+Mar 2 2005, 23:20 -->

QUOTE (jonhzc83 @ Mar 2 2005, 23:20 )

Originally posted by tkk@Mar 2 2005, 22:16 Originally posted by Lynx210@Mar 2 2005, 17:20 Originally posted by tkk@Mar 2 2005, 15:56 --QuoteBegin-jonhzc83

@Mar 1 2005, 21:27 maybe u can ask NiJ, the other day talked to him and he mention some size but i forgot liao... sorry cant help. KK and recommendation?? i m also interested! :rolleyes: hi dude, same as me HKS 40mm.. who interested go see the model in BSA ... i think 35-40mm is good enough for our 1.8cc car.. It's that mean dun care how many bar v boosting ??? Just bout this 1.8 cc v can use 35-40+mm ??? :blink: brother... how many boost you want to run first? HKS 40mm can go up to 400hp. ;)

will there be any turbo lag... if an external wastegate is installed??? i know the responds when the turbo kicks in will be very much compare to an internal wastegate or actuator... but before it kicks in... any lag?? [/b][/quote] always lag gua.... now also lag.... boost reponse should be quicker and if ure wastegate is properly sized it will decrease spool up time and prevent boost creeping......

 

[Lynx210]

Originally posted by tkk+Mar 2 2005, 22:16 -->

QUOTE (tkk @ Mar 2 2005, 22:16 )

Originally posted by Lynx210@Mar 2 2005, 17:20 Originally posted by tkk@Mar 2 2005, 15:56 --QuoteBegin-jonhzc83

@Mar 1 2005, 21:27 maybe u can ask NiJ, the other day talked to him and he mention some size but i forgot liao... sorry cant help. KK and recommendation?? i m also interested! :rolleyes: hi dude, same as me HKS 40mm.. who interested go see the model in BSA ... i think 35-40mm is good enough for our 1.8cc car.. It's that mean dun care how many bar v boosting ??? Just bout this 1.8 cc v can use 35-40+mm ??? :blink:

brother... how many boost you want to run first? HKS 40mm can go up to 400hp. ;) [/b][/quote] So if i plan to boost 1.4 max 1.2 nor 1.0 low so 40 mm can ah ?????? My sifu Mr TKK???? :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

 

[SomeGuy_sg]

Wastegate or BOV ?
If you are talking about the stock turbo with internal wastegate on your engine , You would only need to port out your internal wastegate on the turbo . I would think that the ported wastegate port exhaust flow would be cheaper and better way to go . .9 Bar is do-able . But i do like to warn you that most stock turbos efficiency run out about about 1Bar .

If you already have a after-market turbo , than you would like to get an upgraded external wastegate . I would choose the wastegate on the type of turbo and the amount of boost you would be running . For a 1.8 engine a good turbo would be a Garrett GT28 series BB turbo. With that turbo running medium to high boost . A 38 or a 40 mm wastegate would be recommended (with high boost , you would get a harder spring for the wastegate) Tial makes nice wastegate and medium range prices .


Please take care thou . General rule of thumb , if you are aiming for a 20%-50% power up stock turbo engine will do fine . If you are aiming for power levels above 70% . Plus upgrade your engine to match .

Remember Piston , Con-rods and crankshaft , main components first .


ps; Take everything with a pinch of salt , everything i said is from my point of view :) Drive safe

 

[tkk]

Originally posted by SomeGuy_sg@Mar 12 2005, 04:22
Wastegate or BOV ?
If you are talking about the stock turbo with internal wastegate on your engine , You would only need to port out your internal wastegate on the turbo . I would think that the ported wastegate port exhaust flow would be cheaper and better way to go . .9 Bar is do-able . But i do like to warn you that most stock turbos efficiency run out about about 1Bar .

If you already have a after-market turbo , than you would like to get an upgraded external wastegate . I would choose the wastegate on the type of turbo and the amount of boost you would be running . For a 1.8 engine a good turbo would be a Garrett GT28 series BB turbo. With that turbo running medium to high boost . A 38 or a 40 mm wastegate would be recommended (with high boost , you would get a harder spring for the wastegate) Tial makes nice wastegate and medium range prices .


Please take care thou . General rule of thumb , if you are aiming for a 20%-50% power up stock turbo engine will do fine . If you are aiming for power levels above 70% . Plus upgrade your engine to match .

Remember Piston , Con-rods and crankshaft , main components first .


ps; Take everything with a pinch of salt , everything i said is from my point of view :) Drive safe

good info... agree with you brother.. ;)

 

[jonhzc83]

Originally posted by tkk+Mar 13 2005, 00:19 -->
QUOTE(tkk @ Mar 13 2005, 00:19 )
--QuoteBegin-SomeGuy_sg@Mar 12 2005, 04:22
Wastegate or BOV ?
If you are talking about the stock turbo with internal wastegate on your engine , You would only need to port out your internal wastegate on the turbo . I would think that the ported wastegate port exhaust flow would be cheaper and better way to go . .9 Bar is do-able . But i do like to warn you that most stock turbos efficiency run out about about 1Bar .

If you already have a after-market turbo , than you would like to get an upgraded external wastegate . I would choose the wastegate on the type of turbo and the amount of boost you would be running . For a 1.8 engine a good turbo would be a Garrett GT28 series BB turbo. With that turbo running medium to high boost . A 38 or a 40 mm wastegate would be recommended (with high boost , you would get a harder spring for the wastegate) Tial makes nice wastegate and medium range prices .


Please take care thou . General rule of thumb , if you are aiming for a 20%-50% power up stock turbo engine will do fine . If you are aiming for power levels above 70% . Plus upgrade your engine to match .

Remember Piston , Con-rods and crankshaft , main components first .


ps; Take everything with a pinch of salt , everything i said is from my point of view :) Drive safe

good info... agree with you brother.. ;)

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to what i know... B8 210 engines comes with forged pistons and harden con rods and crankshaft!! so ori engine can boost up high?? Kolo told me 210 engine can go up to 450++bhp without a problem using stock engine components!! rite KK?

 

[NiJ]

:lol:

Originally posted by jonhzc83+Mar 20 2005, 22:54 -->
QUOTE(jonhzc83 @ Mar 20 2005, 22:54 )

Originally posted by tkk@Mar 13 2005, 00:19
--QuoteBegin-SomeGuy_sg

@Mar 12 2005, 04:22
Wastegate or BOV ?
If you are talking about the stock turbo with internal wastegate on your engine , You would only need to port out your internal wastegate on the turbo . I would think that the ported wastegate port exhaust flow would be cheaper and better way to go . .9 Bar is do-able . But i do like to warn you that most stock turbos efficiency run out about about 1Bar .

If you already have a after-market turbo , than you would like to get an upgraded external wastegate . I would choose the wastegate on the type of turbo and the amount of boost you would be running . For a 1.8 engine a good turbo would be a Garrett GT28 series BB turbo. With that turbo running medium to high boost . A 38 or a 40 mm wastegate would be recommended (with high boost , you would get a harder spring for the wastegate) Tial makes nice wastegate and medium range prices .


Please take care thou . General rule of thumb , if you are aiming for a 20%-50% power up stock turbo engine will do fine . If you are aiming for power levels above 70% . Plus upgrade your engine to match .

Remember Piston , Con-rods and crankshaft , main components first .


ps; Take everything with a pinch of salt , everything i said is from my point of view :) Drive safe

good info... agree with you brother.. ;)

[snapback]812429[/snapback]​

to what i know... B8 210 engines comes with forged pistons and harden con rods and crankshaft!! so ori engine can boost up high?? Kolo told me 210 engine can go up to 450++bhp without a problem using stock engine components!! rite KK?

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i think u heard wrongly la bro...... i think he said 350...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[tkk]

Originally posted by jonhzc83+Mar 20 2005, 22:54 -->
QUOTE(jonhzc83 @ Mar 20 2005, 22:54 )

Originally posted by tkk@Mar 13 2005, 00:19
--QuoteBegin-SomeGuy_sg

@Mar 12 2005, 04:22
Wastegate or BOV ?
If you are talking about the stock turbo with internal wastegate on your engine , You would only need to port out your internal wastegate on the turbo . I would think that the ported wastegate port exhaust flow would be cheaper and better way to go . .9 Bar is do-able . But i do like to warn you that most stock turbos efficiency run out about about 1Bar .

If you already have a after-market turbo , than you would like to get an upgraded external wastegate . I would choose the wastegate on the type of turbo and the amount of boost you would be running . For a 1.8 engine a good turbo would be a Garrett GT28 series BB turbo. With that turbo running medium to high boost . A 38 or a 40 mm wastegate would be recommended (with high boost , you would get a harder spring for the wastegate) Tial makes nice wastegate and medium range prices .


Please take care thou . General rule of thumb , if you are aiming for a 20%-50% power up stock turbo engine will do fine . If you are aiming for power levels above 70% . Plus upgrade your engine to match .

Remember Piston , Con-rods and crankshaft , main components first .


ps; Take everything with a pinch of salt , everything i said is from my point of view :) Drive safe

good info... agree with you brother.. ;)

[snapback]812429[/snapback]​

to what i know... B8 210 engines comes with forged pistons and harden con rods and crankshaft!! so ori engine can boost up high?? Kolo told me 210 engine can go up to 450++bhp without a problem using stock engine components!! rite KK?

[snapback]825444[/snapback]​

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so far kolo tested b8180 engine up to 350bhp was ok.

 

[Lynx210]

Thanks for all sifu giving all gooooooooooood info
So if let say with210 stock boost up 1.2 bar do v need wastegate ?????

Originally posted by tkk+Mar 21 2005, 10:00 -->
QUOTE(tkk @ Mar 21 2005, 10:00 )

Originally posted by jonhzc83@Mar 20 2005, 22:54

Originally posted by tkk@Mar 13 2005, 00:19
--QuoteBegin-SomeGuy_sg

@Mar 12 2005, 04:22
Wastegate or BOV ?
If you are talking about the stock turbo with internal wastegate on your engine , You would only need to port out your internal wastegate on the turbo . I would think that the ported wastegate port exhaust flow would be cheaper and better way to go . .9 Bar is do-able . But i do like to warn you that most stock turbos efficiency run out about about 1Bar .

If you already have a after-market turbo , than you would like to get an upgraded external wastegate . I would choose the wastegate on the type of turbo and the amount of boost you would be running . For a 1.8 engine a good turbo would be a Garrett GT28 series BB turbo. With that turbo running medium to high boost . A 38 or a 40 mm wastegate would be recommended (with high boost , you would get a harder spring for the wastegate) Tial makes nice wastegate and medium range prices .


Please take care thou . General rule of thumb , if you are aiming for a 20%-50% power up stock turbo engine will do fine . If you are aiming for power levels above 70% . Plus upgrade your engine to match .

Remember Piston , Con-rods and crankshaft , main components first .


ps; Take everything with a pinch of salt , everything i said is from my point of view :) Drive safe

good info... agree with you brother.. ;)

[snapback]812429[/snapback]​

to what i know... B8 210 engines comes with forged pistons and harden con rods and crankshaft!! so ori engine can boost up high?? Kolo told me 210 engine can go up to 450++bhp without a problem using stock engine components!! rite KK?

[snapback]825444[/snapback]​

so far kolo tested b8180 engine up to 350bhp was ok.

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