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Yesterday, I visited my mechanic. He confirmed it was the Lost Motion Assembly (LMA) or commonly known as hydraulic lifters are the cause of that sound. So, I told him I wanted to get those changed.
He gave me the option to choose which type I want to use.
1) Use back the original B series LMA.
2) Go for aftermarket LMA, same function but different design.
Option 1, I can choose brand new or used B18C Type R LMA. These are really out of my budget. It is about RM100+ per piece and there are 8 pieces. It will come close to RM1000 with workmanship. However, used B18C Type R LMA for 8 pieces including workmanship will cost me 3 times cheaper.
Option 2, using aftermarket LMA. It seems the design is something like H22A lifters. Looks like a spring. I didn't see that as my mechanic didn't have any sample. This is RM45 per piece brand new. It's slightly more expensive than the used B18CR LMA but very much cheaper than the brand new B18CR LMA.
Decision time.. I don't know how to decide. Then, he told me that some of his customers are using the aftermarket LMA, so far no problem. But just his opinion, it seems the aftermarket LMA design looks to be weak. Not strong. It may cause them to break easily if I understood what he meant exactly. My mechanic and I have trouble to communicate, you see. Then, I asked about the used B18CR LMA knowing that the new ones are out of my reach. I asked whether used ones can last. He said he usually uses used ones only and no problems so far. Same answer??? Then, I looked at him for a while. He laughed and said don't worry. Just use the used ones.
Ok la. now that my mechanic has helped me to choose, he showed me the used LMA he has and asked to check. When you press the lifters, it is supposed to come up instantly, easily with any noise. He then showed me a faulty lifter. When I pressed this, it came up but with a "tak" sound and it wasn't smooth. Now, I know how to know why LMA makes noise. Haha.
So, he began to work on my car. I went for a drink. I came back and the head valve cover has already been pulled out.
He pointed at this and told me that the lifters are there.
I thought to myself. This will be quick. Just remove the camshaft and all those things there and can be done within 2 hours. But after a while, he was not working on my car. I waited. After about 20 minutes, he still didn't do anything. I asked him why. He said the engine needs to cool down first. Too hot to handle.
Ok la. So, I waited. An Evolution MR came. Snapped the pic of his disc brakes.
Damn big brakes. Almost the size of my rims.
This is the used B18CR Lost Motion Assembly/ Hydraulic lifters kept in a plastic container soaked in oil
Labelling your parts is very important
After an hour, the engine was cold and he started work again.
Camshaft taken out for the first time. I was hoping it was at least a Type R cam.
Stock cam pulley
Unfortunately, it is not a Type R cam. My mechanic told me that it's the B18 Black Top cam. From which car is it? Anyone?
You see that? That is the LMA that needs to be changed. Honestly, I didn't know that so many things need to be pulled out to change these.
Such a small thing and yet can really cause an irritating, intolerable sound.
Is this the valve spring?
More parts were taken out but I don't know what they are.
Anyway, here are the pics.
These parts here, have to be taken one one piece at a time. There will be a rod holding them. You need to push the rod a little to take a piece. Then, push it further to take the next piece.
LMA is out
Here they are in another container
By this time, I was hungry. So, I went out for lunch. Couldn't snap any pics. When I came back, it was ready.
Part 2 coming shortly.
---------- Post added at 12:02 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 11:35 AM ----------
When I came back, my mechanic was nice enough to wash my engine bay.
Upon further checking, I noticed he did not fix back the cover. The one which covers the cam pulley and timing belt.
Is it ok to leave it open like that? Most of the cars in his workshop are the same.
Then, the moment of truth. Started the car. No more noise. What a relief... Went for a test drive. Engine was quiet. Was really happy. I noticed my speedometer was not working. I thought to myself. One ok, another problem arises. DAMN!!!
Went back to the workshop and told my mechanic about it. He said maybe water went in the speed sensor. So, he blew dry and tried a few times. Still the same. In the end, he changed it for me. Best part, he didn't even charge me for that.
I went home as a happy customer.
Now, is it really ok not to cover that cam pulley? What are the pro's and con's of leaving it open? I still have the cover with me. Can water go in if it rains or when I was the engine bay? What about stones or anything like that?
My mechanic also told me to change my cam pulley next. So, it will look nice. Any brands that I should go for? Suggestions please.
He gave me the option to choose which type I want to use.
1) Use back the original B series LMA.
2) Go for aftermarket LMA, same function but different design.
Option 1, I can choose brand new or used B18C Type R LMA. These are really out of my budget. It is about RM100+ per piece and there are 8 pieces. It will come close to RM1000 with workmanship. However, used B18C Type R LMA for 8 pieces including workmanship will cost me 3 times cheaper.
Option 2, using aftermarket LMA. It seems the design is something like H22A lifters. Looks like a spring. I didn't see that as my mechanic didn't have any sample. This is RM45 per piece brand new. It's slightly more expensive than the used B18CR LMA but very much cheaper than the brand new B18CR LMA.
Decision time.. I don't know how to decide. Then, he told me that some of his customers are using the aftermarket LMA, so far no problem. But just his opinion, it seems the aftermarket LMA design looks to be weak. Not strong. It may cause them to break easily if I understood what he meant exactly. My mechanic and I have trouble to communicate, you see. Then, I asked about the used B18CR LMA knowing that the new ones are out of my reach. I asked whether used ones can last. He said he usually uses used ones only and no problems so far. Same answer??? Then, I looked at him for a while. He laughed and said don't worry. Just use the used ones.
Ok la. now that my mechanic has helped me to choose, he showed me the used LMA he has and asked to check. When you press the lifters, it is supposed to come up instantly, easily with any noise. He then showed me a faulty lifter. When I pressed this, it came up but with a "tak" sound and it wasn't smooth. Now, I know how to know why LMA makes noise. Haha.
So, he began to work on my car. I went for a drink. I came back and the head valve cover has already been pulled out.
He pointed at this and told me that the lifters are there.
I thought to myself. This will be quick. Just remove the camshaft and all those things there and can be done within 2 hours. But after a while, he was not working on my car. I waited. After about 20 minutes, he still didn't do anything. I asked him why. He said the engine needs to cool down first. Too hot to handle.
Ok la. So, I waited. An Evolution MR came. Snapped the pic of his disc brakes.
Damn big brakes. Almost the size of my rims.
This is the used B18CR Lost Motion Assembly/ Hydraulic lifters kept in a plastic container soaked in oil
Labelling your parts is very important
After an hour, the engine was cold and he started work again.
Camshaft taken out for the first time. I was hoping it was at least a Type R cam.
Stock cam pulley
Unfortunately, it is not a Type R cam. My mechanic told me that it's the B18 Black Top cam. From which car is it? Anyone?
You see that? That is the LMA that needs to be changed. Honestly, I didn't know that so many things need to be pulled out to change these.
Such a small thing and yet can really cause an irritating, intolerable sound.
Is this the valve spring?
More parts were taken out but I don't know what they are.
Anyway, here are the pics.
These parts here, have to be taken one one piece at a time. There will be a rod holding them. You need to push the rod a little to take a piece. Then, push it further to take the next piece.
LMA is out
Here they are in another container
By this time, I was hungry. So, I went out for lunch. Couldn't snap any pics. When I came back, it was ready.
Part 2 coming shortly.
---------- Post added at 12:02 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 11:35 AM ----------
When I came back, my mechanic was nice enough to wash my engine bay.
Upon further checking, I noticed he did not fix back the cover. The one which covers the cam pulley and timing belt.
Is it ok to leave it open like that? Most of the cars in his workshop are the same.
Then, the moment of truth. Started the car. No more noise. What a relief... Went for a test drive. Engine was quiet. Was really happy. I noticed my speedometer was not working. I thought to myself. One ok, another problem arises. DAMN!!!
Went back to the workshop and told my mechanic about it. He said maybe water went in the speed sensor. So, he blew dry and tried a few times. Still the same. In the end, he changed it for me. Best part, he didn't even charge me for that.
I went home as a happy customer.
Now, is it really ok not to cover that cam pulley? What are the pro's and con's of leaving it open? I still have the cover with me. Can water go in if it rains or when I was the engine bay? What about stones or anything like that?
My mechanic also told me to change my cam pulley next. So, it will look nice. Any brands that I should go for? Suggestions please.
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hmm from what i know is...since your mech not having back the below cover is easier for them or you to check on timing belt next time and let it cold down faster.....some even remove the upper cover *joint together with the valve cover 1* for them easy to change timing belt without removing the cover and replace gasket ....hopes it helps bro .
BTW bro...mind telling me where you spray your head to powder type coating...wanna spray like yours too
BTW bro...mind telling me where you spray your head to powder type coating...wanna spray like yours too
Ling: look for this fella
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...351732-powder-coating-coated-by-dynatech.html
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ok will do bro thanks
Thanks for the info bro.
When I bought my car, it was already sprayed but I don't think so it's powder coated. Mine also needs a to be powder coated but guess it can wait. No hurry.
Okay. I'm also worried to drive around without the cover. Just pray hard nothing happens.
Need an opinion. What do you think? Is it okay to respray an original rim with original colour to a different colour?
Vote please based only on the rim colour. Which looks better?
Do you prefer this:
#1 - My car with my white rims
Or do you prefer this:
#2 - Another DB from the Internet with the same gold rims
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Exactly, that was what I was looking for. Some contrast in colour. My car is all white and looks plain. Need some colour to it.
That's the reason I went for the Type R decal. And when I bought this car, it came with white indicator bulbs. Now I got that amber bulb and it really helps. Not much though. Trying to figure out other cheap things I can do because I'm really on a tight budget now.
And thanks siauann for the suggestion.
That's the reason I went for the Type R decal. And when I bought this car, it came with white indicator bulbs. Now I got that amber bulb and it really helps. Not much though. Trying to figure out other cheap things I can do because I'm really on a tight budget now.
And thanks siauann for the suggestion.
My rims are up for sale/swap.
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/chassis-and-wheels/405745-advan-racing-rg.html
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/chassis-and-wheels/405745-advan-racing-rg.html
Since I got this car, there was one issue that seemed to be unsolvable. My front windscreen.
First when I got it, it had this line. I believe it was due to some chemical used to clean the windscreen and because it was not cleaned immediately, the stain remained.
To get rid of that, I tried so many things... tooth paste, rubbing compound and so many others after listening to everyone. But it didn't change anything.
Then, I decided to go to a so called high end car wash. It made it worse. What was previously only scratches and that chemical stain has now become hazy!!! This is really bad. It was dangerous to drive during the day and at night. Lights from any source... sun, headlights and even street lamps would spread across about 40% of my windscreen which is on the driver's side. When this happens, I have to find an angle where the windscreen is clear. I think it is safe to say that everything was blur when there's light shone.
I can't seem to find any picture of the haze on the windscreen better than these.
If you can notice it, the hazy part is only on the driver's side. The pictures don't show how bad is it when driving though.
I had to settle a few things in my hometown, so I decided to get my windscreen checked.
These pics were taken to show how the street lights spread across the windscreen. Again in the pictures, it's not that bad.
Early Saturday morning, I went to the Glass Mechanic in SS2. The boss wasn't there that early, so I waited. The lady there said that my glass was terrible and even if it is done, they can't guarantee 100% but still told me to wait for the boss to see.
The boss came and examined my windscreen and said that it can be done but not 100%. I wasn't convinced. He said it will be only about 90%. Considering that I could barely see anything, 90% improvement is very good to me. I told him to do it but what if I don't see any improvements? He said I don't have to pay if I'm not happy. Now, I am convinced, not because I don't have to pay but because of his confidence. He told me it will take at least 4 -5 hours minimum. There was also a crack (there's a name for it... star crack or something like that, can't remember) that had to be repaired. He offered me a good bargain and I accepted it.
Just before I left, I took a few more pics to see if the difference in case I forgot how it was like.
90% better than this is really something to me.
My brother fetched me and went to see his car in Batu Caves. Came back at about 4.30 and the car was still not ready. He was working on it.
Just from this angle, I could really see the difference. I was happy.
Magic? No, just a professional's work.
Just to quote, I went to so many Dr. Cermin and all those so called windscreen specialists before and all of them told me that NOTHING can be done but to change the windscreen.
Who is this magician/pro??
He really looked very professional
It was this man who did it for me. What seemed to be impossible was made possible by him
Thanks to him and Glass Mechanic. Not advertising for them but just my appreciation for what they have done for me.
The verdict??
You tell me.
Previously, I could not see my steering wheel clearly from this angle
And even from this angle, it's so clear
Sitting inside my car and snapped this pic. Seems like there was no glass between my camera lens and the wall there.
I know I could have gone the easier way of changing the windscreen by claiming insurance which may be cheaper and I would have gotten myself a brand new windscreen.
Honestly, even now I feel that that would be a wiser thing to do. But I have no regrets at all. I just like how the windscreen was treated.
First when I got it, it had this line. I believe it was due to some chemical used to clean the windscreen and because it was not cleaned immediately, the stain remained.
To get rid of that, I tried so many things... tooth paste, rubbing compound and so many others after listening to everyone. But it didn't change anything.
Then, I decided to go to a so called high end car wash. It made it worse. What was previously only scratches and that chemical stain has now become hazy!!! This is really bad. It was dangerous to drive during the day and at night. Lights from any source... sun, headlights and even street lamps would spread across about 40% of my windscreen which is on the driver's side. When this happens, I have to find an angle where the windscreen is clear. I think it is safe to say that everything was blur when there's light shone.
I can't seem to find any picture of the haze on the windscreen better than these.
If you can notice it, the hazy part is only on the driver's side. The pictures don't show how bad is it when driving though.
I had to settle a few things in my hometown, so I decided to get my windscreen checked.
These pics were taken to show how the street lights spread across the windscreen. Again in the pictures, it's not that bad.
Early Saturday morning, I went to the Glass Mechanic in SS2. The boss wasn't there that early, so I waited. The lady there said that my glass was terrible and even if it is done, they can't guarantee 100% but still told me to wait for the boss to see.
The boss came and examined my windscreen and said that it can be done but not 100%. I wasn't convinced. He said it will be only about 90%. Considering that I could barely see anything, 90% improvement is very good to me. I told him to do it but what if I don't see any improvements? He said I don't have to pay if I'm not happy. Now, I am convinced, not because I don't have to pay but because of his confidence. He told me it will take at least 4 -5 hours minimum. There was also a crack (there's a name for it... star crack or something like that, can't remember) that had to be repaired. He offered me a good bargain and I accepted it.
Just before I left, I took a few more pics to see if the difference in case I forgot how it was like.
90% better than this is really something to me.
My brother fetched me and went to see his car in Batu Caves. Came back at about 4.30 and the car was still not ready. He was working on it.
Just from this angle, I could really see the difference. I was happy.
Magic? No, just a professional's work.
Just to quote, I went to so many Dr. Cermin and all those so called windscreen specialists before and all of them told me that NOTHING can be done but to change the windscreen.
Who is this magician/pro??
He really looked very professional
It was this man who did it for me. What seemed to be impossible was made possible by him
Thanks to him and Glass Mechanic. Not advertising for them but just my appreciation for what they have done for me.
The verdict??
You tell me.
Previously, I could not see my steering wheel clearly from this angle
And even from this angle, it's so clear
Sitting inside my car and snapped this pic. Seems like there was no glass between my camera lens and the wall there.
I know I could have gone the easier way of changing the windscreen by claiming insurance which may be cheaper and I would have gotten myself a brand new windscreen.
Honestly, even now I feel that that would be a wiser thing to do. But I have no regrets at all. I just like how the windscreen was treated.
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