Battlefield: Sabah

[BuroQ]

Let us all pray for the safety for the people of sabah and our troops. May our troops stay safe during their operation and return home safely to their loved ones since Ops Daulat has been initiated. And let us pray that this conflict ends as soon as possible without escalating into something bigger.

....(sorry can't hold my man tears)...

 

[fazidk]

If this report is true n genuine then we possibly be facing a full scale war...hope n pray its not...

The MNLF/MILF are notorious. Now they claimed http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/10000-more-suluks-have-joined-battle-for-sabah-mnlf-official-claims/ but no confirmation of this development from reliable source. If this is true Eastern Sabah is really a full scale battlefield.

 

[arturo]

I'm finding it really hard to digest that it is so easy to breach our borders even in such times...

 

[TitanRev]

On other news, our "beloved" tourism minister says it's still safe for tourist to go to Sabah.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/sabah-still-safe-for-tourists-minister-assures
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/3/5/nation/20130305122110&sec=nation

I wonder when our submarine is going to be in action...launching sea to ground missile...I would love to see that...

 

[fazidk]

On other news, our "beloved" tourism minister says it's still safe for tourist to go to Sabah.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/sabah-still-safe-for-tourists-minister-assures
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/3/5/nation/20130305122110&sec=nation

Coz she's a moron..do u think they'd admit otherwise???bad for biz...


I wonder when our submarine is going to be in action...launching sea to ground missile...I would love to see that...

Me too...wanna c whether it works...

 

[g4i8y0t]

These Sulu dogs are really asking for it. They are barbaric, lowlife pirates who love bloodshed. Who they think they are, Genghis Khan? The act of trying to claim part of Malaysia by force without any diplomacy at all shows how uncivilized these dogs are. I wish I could do something...

 

[pwhyze]

I really doubt the MNLF have the troops and the corresponding arms for 10,000 strong men. Plus, this contradicts what the MNLF chief said earlier of them not being involved.

 

[radhie]

https://mobile.twitter.com/lahaddatutown/media/grid?idx=2&tid=308374044175134720

 

[LesleyAprotto]

https://mobile.twitter.com/lahaddatutown/media/grid?idx=2&tid=308374044175134720

Looks like the mess is bigger than anticipated...

Maybe we may not have GE after all, the speculators prediction may be right!

 

[fazidk]

Whether its true or x our security forces shouldn't take it for granted now...x give these f*cks a chance...wipe them out!!!

I really doubt the MNLF have the troops and the corresponding arms for 10,000 strong men. Plus, this contradicts what the MNLF chief said earlier of them not being involved.

 

[ixeo]

I read newspaper a while ago (Tuesday, The Sun)..The army said Datuk Hishammuddin has asked the army to be line backers and leave it to the police.. so yeah. See what i mean? He's leaving our police out to dry...

Obviously when defending the country you use whatever force necessary and whatever resources you have.. clearly the Government has a bigger agenda here.

 

[CountersteerSan]

I'm just sayin what I've heard, so don't flame me. Apparently the Nur Misuari (MNLF's tauke) stated that he is gona send someone to negotiate and the person he sent is also Najib's cousin (WTF right, not sure if rumor or what...) Another reason the army is not being utilized is that some of the pinoys actually have Malaysian ic? So only police can be used to suppress your "own" citizen..

And about the situation there, I see my all my Sabah friends from kk are just chilling, 1 dude just posted about going for movies and another guy is chilling out at some coffee shop like starbucks reading some random homo novel..

 

[ixeo]

Another reason the army is not being utilized is that some of the pinoys actually have Malaysian ic? So only police can be used to suppress your "own" citizen..

As the Chinese say... Government catch worm put inside own backside... great. Give them IC and then come invade us. Yippie!

Most Malaysians are ignorant, look at the replies in this thread alone you can see it.

 

[fazidk]

Wow bro I x know where u got dis info but if theres any truth in it then it's definately more serious then it already is...they're making d ppl/our army guys s scapegoats!!!! N they're dying for it....This is F*CKED UP!!!

I'm just sayin what I've heard, so don't flame me. Apparently the Nur Misuari (MNLF's tauke) stated that he is gona send someone to negotiate and the person he sent is also Najib's cousin (WTF right, not sure if rumor or what...) Another reason the army is not being utilized is that some of the pinoys actually have Malaysian ic? So only police can be used to suppress your "own" citizen..

And about the situation there, I see my all my Sabah friends from kk are just chilling, 1 dude just posted about going for movies and another guy is chilling out at some coffee shop like starbucks reading some random homo novel..

 

[Izso]

actually I read somewhere that they can't use the army otherwise it's a declaration of war or something along those lines. Using the police makes it an internal affair.

Anyone can confirm how true this is?

 

[vr2turbo]

I read that too, that is why army is backup only....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Yup, some experts advised that they are not suppose to send the whole troops of armies to the area if things are not that heated up
as these would consider a serious decision where nothing will be consider or tolerate but to go all out to wipe out the terrorist at all cost.

Which indirectly, there will be casualties if the decision is made to send the troops. In other words, is War.

They are trying to talk it out to solve the conflict by discussion but it seems the Sultan of Sulu is not backing down and they
decided to take back Sabah which they believe is time to claim back the country after so many years.

 

[arturo]

sorry for BM. but translate it yrselves. taken from yinchet from LYN

1) jika kita guna tentera dahulu bermakna kita dalam perang dengan Sultan SULU.

2) Juga bermakna kita mengiktiraf Sultan Sulu secara lansung sebagai kerajaan yang sah yang mengistiharkan perang kepada kita.

3)Dan jika ini berlaku ianya akan tertakluk kepada Geneva Convention dan beberapa protocol antarabangsa.

Jika Polis sebagai pemerintah operasi bermakna

1) kita masih anggap mereka itu penjenayah dan penceroboh bukan combatant perang.

2) Polis kita akan menangkap dan menahan (perkatannya untuk polis ialah menahan bukan menawan - Menawan ialah perkataan Tentera ada beza di antara keduanya)

3) Untuk mengelakkan mereka menjadi Tawanan Perang. Cukup sekadar sebagai tahanan penjenayah. Maka tuduahn di Mahkamah Awam boleh di lakukan. Seperti tuduhan yang boleh kita buat di atas lanun Somalia yang kita tahan sedikit masa lalu. Mereka tidak di anggap tawanan perang.

4) Boleh di ektradisikan dengan lebih mudah ke Filipina. Kalau tindakan ketenteraan atau kita anggap perang susah nak bicara dan mana nak tempatkan mereka dan diklasifikasikan mereka ini? Maka jadilah macam kisah CIA dan Black Sitenya untuk WAR on TERROR mereka. Kita kena la buat macam Guantonamo BAy juga. Susah macam tu.

Itu sebab kita mengambil langkah Polis dahulu. Jika tentera ambil alih sudah jadi kes lain.

Jika keadaan tidak boleh di kawal lagi maka LOCAR AREA EMERGENCY (darurat setempat) boleh di isytiharkan

Dengar cerita darurat telah di istiharkan dan curfew di kuatkuasakan di sana. Ini bermakna tentera sudah ambil alih di Lahad Datu atau kawasan pencerobohan sahaja (kawasan yang lebih kecil)

Ianya seperti darurat waktu ribut banjir New Orleans dahulu- tentera USA ambil alih bukan lagi polis tempatan)

Dalam keadaan ini bermakna bukan satu negara Malaysia darurat dan bukanlah bermakna perang kerajaan Malaysia dan Sultan Sulu. Darurat hanya untuk keselamatan sahaja dan LOCAL AREA SAHAJA. Rasanya bukan seluruh Lahad Datu pun.Hanya kawsan pencerobohannya* sahaja. Nampak hati-hatinya dan telitinya Kerajaan dalam hal ini? Menurut langkah satu persatu

credit:sukan star

Saya sebagai bekas anggota tentera ingin menjawap persoalan mgapa tentera tidak dihantar utk berperang. Ok, bagi saya setakat 200 orang pihak polis boleh selesaikannya...maksud saya group VAT 69 komando. Unit ini memang ditugaskan utk memerangi pihak musuh di hutan. Manakala polis biasa hanya untuk ketenteraman awam. Dan sekiranya pihak mereka sukar utk memusnahkan pihak musuh, barulah kuasa penuh Tentera digunakan.

I'm just happy that no Malaysian lives were lost in yesterday's ops Daulat.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Does makes sense though. Since polis have special squads as well which is the VAT69.

 

[arturo]

some info on VAT69

Pasukan Gerakan Khas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
VAT 69/UTK - Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu, ensiklopedia bebas

nasty guys.