how much to do engine swap?

[cuscostrutbrace]

I would say almost all things in AE86 halfcut can but used on KE70,except the bodyparts of course..Engine ,gbox,suspension is direct fit...others need slight mod..

 

[Jin_Jat]

thx bros...i think i should get an ae86 h/c after all...theres some deals for 4age w/o bodyparts out there and i think id try to view them first...anyway after installing the engine, do i need extra cash to tune? or is it within the process of installing?

 

[AE75]

thx bros...i think i should get an ae86 h/c after all...theres some deals for 4age w/o bodyparts out there and i think id try to view them first...anyway after installing the engine, do i need extra cash to tune? or is it within the process of installing?

Beside the AE86 H/C, I got 1 more H/C and seem more worth, even have same pricing or even cheaper too.
It is Carina H/C, it still have 4AGE but people said it much more power than AE86.
I not sure it true or not, because both having the same engine only.
Maybe the gear ratio is different.

 

[Jin_Jat]

Beside the AE86 H/C, I got 1 more H/C and seem more worth, even have same pricing or even cheaper too.
It is Carina H/C, it still have 4AGE but people said it much more power than AE86.
I not sure it true or not, because both having the same engine only.
Maybe the gear ratio is different.

from wat i know...there's almost 4 or 5 generations of 4age engine...the one ae86 was using is the 1st and 2nd generation 4age which both the power output was about 130HP and the 2nd gen 4age was found usually in a ae92...then theres the RT(Redtop), ST(Silvertop) and BT(Blacktop) which takes place as the 3rd,4th and 5th gen 4age engines...The RT punches 145HP and The ST gives out about 158HP while the BT approximately 163HP...these 3rd,4th and 5th 4age engines can be founded in ae101, ae111 etc2....from the 2nd gen 4age to the 5th, Toyota seems to make them into a FF/FWD...so comes Carina(AT210) which is the FF based car...which means i still have to look out for an ae86 gearbox to fix it in...

Sorry for the long explanation...anyway about the carina 4age h/c...is the price around 4k?

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IMO, i think it would be best if you could get engine lantai 4AGE 16V and do a top overhaul on it before plonking it in. Would be even better if you could get the engine + wiring + gearbox. Reason is because 4AGE 16V (even 20V) is a darn old engine and I bet be it halfcut or engine lantai, you'll still need to overhaul it...unless you don't mind using it for only 1 years plus until it starts burning engine oil like mad.

IIRC, engine lantai for 4AGE 16V and 20V is quite cheap. So you can use the extra cash to do the overhaul and rest assured the engine will last you for the coming years. Besides, not everything from the AE86 halfcut can be used on KE70. The AE86 h/cuts also expensive due to the bodyparts as well.

Previously in Ipoh, I saw a 4AGE 20V BT engine lantai already mounted to AE86 RWD gearbox, complete with water routing for radiator hose going for sale. It would be a steal if you could get such deal. For suspension you can source for cheaper S13 adjustables with a little modification but rear discs prolly will cost you a bit. Just my thought...

quite a good info there bro...but its just me..afraid of lantai..ahhahaha

 

[Jordy]

from wat i know...there's almost 4 or 5 generations of 4age engine...the one ae86 was using is the 1st and 2nd generation 4age which both the power output was about 130HP and the 2nd gen 4age was found usually in a ae92...then theres the RT(Redtop), ST(Silvertop) and BT(Blacktop) which takes place as the 3rd,4th and 5th gen 4age engines...The RT punches 145HP and The ST gives out about 158HP while the BT approximately 163HP...these 3rd,4th and 5th 4age engines can be founded in ae101, ae111 etc2....from the 2nd gen 4age to the 5th, Toyota seems to make them into a FF/FWD...so comes Carina(AT210) which is the FF based car...which means i still have to look out for an ae86 gearbox to fix it in...

Sorry for the long explanation...anyway about the carina 4age h/c...is the price around 4k?

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For 4AGE 16valve there is 3 Generation ... The 1st Generation is Used on the AE86 What we called it as the Big-Port (TVIS) MAP and the 2nd Generation 4A-GE 16Valve is also a Big Port (TVIS) but is using AFM and the last generation of 16Valve which is the 3rd Generation is used on the late model of AE92 Levin/Trueno Small Port(Non-TVIS) MAP.
As for the Forth Generation is the 4A-GE 20Valve Silvertop mostly found in AE101 Levin and the Fifth Generation which is the last of 4A-GE generation is the 4A-GE 20Valve Blacktop AE111 Levin.

So 4A-GE has the totall of 5 Generation. Cheersss....

 

[cuscostrutbrace]

Just buy AE86 H/C and Install,save you money and no headache,refresh the wear and tear parts and ready to go,no need tuning...

 

[Jin_Jat]

from wat i know...there's almost 4 or 5 generations of 4age engine...the one ae86 was using is the 1st and 2nd generation 4age which both the power output was about 130HP and the 2nd gen 4age was found usually in a ae92...then theres the RT(Redtop), ST(Silvertop) and BT(Blacktop) which takes place as the 3rd,4th and 5th gen 4age engines...The RT punches 145HP and The ST gives out about 158HP while the BT approximately 163HP...these 3rd,4th and 5th 4age engines can be founded in ae101, ae111 etc2....from the 2nd gen 4age to the 5th, Toyota seems to make them into a FF/FWD...so comes Carina(AT210) which is the FF based car...which means i still have to look out for an ae86 gearbox to fix it in...

Sorry for the long explanation...anyway about the carina 4age h/c...is the price around 4k?

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For 4AGE 16valve there is 3 Generation ... The 1st Generation is Used on the AE86 What we called it as the Big-Port (TVIS) MAP and the 2nd Generation 4A-GE 16Valve is also a Big Port (TVIS) but is using AFM and the last generation of 16Valve which is the 3rd Generation is used on the late model of AE92 Levin/Trueno Small Port(Non-TVIS) MAP.
As for the Forth Generation is the 4A-GE 20Valve Silvertop mostly found in AE101 Levin and the Fifth Generation which is the last of 4A-GE generation is the 4A-GE 20Valve Blacktop AE111 Levin.

So 4A-GE has the totall of 5 Generation. Cheersss....

thx for the useful info bro...

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Just buy AE86 H/C and Install,save you money and no headache,refresh the wear and tear parts and ready to go,no need tuning...

maybe thats wat im gonna do...thx

 

[nnik]

saw 2 units ae86 h/c at bukit kemuning shah alam there..if got time..i'll ask the price for u....

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just found this...real cheap....
http://www.drift.com.my/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39164

ae111 btop+ae86gbox...complete for rm 4k...dono still have or not..
just try call.......good luck

 

[Jin_Jat]

saw 2 units ae86 h/c at bukit kemuning shah alam there..if got time..i'll ask the price for u....

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just found this...real cheap....
http://www.drift.com.my/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39164

ae111 btop+ae86gbox...complete for rm 4k...dono still have or not..
just try call.......good luck

thx bro...ill try and call him tomorrow whether it is taken or not...quite a bargain...but looking at the specs he mentioned he said that it is a pnp to kp61...means that i have to look for ae86 long shaft? and some other parts?

 

[AE75]

from wat i know...there's almost 4 or 5 generations of 4age engine...the one ae86 was using is the 1st and 2nd generation 4age which both the power output was about 130HP and the 2nd gen 4age was found usually in a ae92...then theres the RT(Redtop), ST(Silvertop) and BT(Blacktop) which takes place as the 3rd,4th and 5th gen 4age engines...The RT punches 145HP and The ST gives out about 158HP while the BT approximately 163HP...these 3rd,4th and 5th 4age engines can be founded in ae101, ae111 etc2....from the 2nd gen 4age to the 5th, Toyota seems to make them into a FF/FWD...so comes Carina(AT210) which is the FF based car...which means i still have to look out for an ae86 gearbox to fix it in...

Sorry for the long explanation...anyway about the carina 4age h/c...is the price around 4k?

I was talking about Carina RWD and not FWD. I not sure the price tag, but last time I found alot also having same price tag as AE86 or cheaper than that too

 

[Jin_Jat]

I was talking about Carina RWD and not FWD. I not sure the price tag, but last time I found alot also having same price tag as AE86 or cheaper than that too

nice bro, thx for the info...hope that the price tag is lower than the 86...