Pros and cons of engine braking?

Used those mat with stubs at the bottom....:driver:

ahh yes using those already! need to get the original mats.... original mat has a hole which can hookup to a little plastic hook on the car carpet
 
Alright. I'll wear proper shoes next time when I want to try out the heel toe technique. Perhaps I should try out the movements first inside the car before driving. I don't want to lose control halfway while driving which can be dangerous.
 
Alright. I'll wear proper shoes next time when I want to try out the heel toe technique. Perhaps I should try out the movements first inside the car before driving. I don't want to lose control halfway while driving which can be dangerous.

Can practice in an empty road first or empty parking space.
 
I find it much much easier to start learning H & T without wearing any shoes. The most common mistake i made when i just started to learn, is i accidentally apply more brake pressure when reaching for the throttle ( feet too small) , if that's the case for you too u can try stepping on the more right part of the brake pedal. But doing that gave me less confidence when braking hard as im only stepping 50 percent of the brake pedal. But when youre used to it then no need to do all these already la haha. Good luck!


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I drove older 3 series manual before and I step on clutch and brakes at the same time......lol[emoji3]
Okay that's big. Very big feet

I'm kind of bias because I learned to drive in a manual 1989 5 series so I think BMW makes the best manual cars. To me, the pedals are perfect, especially when it has floor mounted throttle pedal. The pedals were straight, sturdy and good sized unlike flimsy ones found in early Asian cars, The shift mechanism was nice, although its tightness deteriorates prematurely.

When I first experienced engine braking during my virgin first hours of driving, I was kind of blown away because it resembled what we are used to see on TV.

It was just slow driving and experimenting with the clutch, especially feeling how much it bites as the clutch pedal is released.

As I explored braking at higher speeds without heel toe at the time, I began locking up the rear wheels. So I adjusted the rate of clutch pedal release to taste. So then I knew how to have fun with the clutch at downshift.

Although it's probably stupid, It felt kind of nice like a form of achievement when you get the tail out as a young kid.

It was getting dangerous and unclassy so I had to learn heel and toe asap. From then on I added the extra step, the throttle (heel) just like how they do it on TV.

Whenever i apply heel and toe, it felt good. Of course there were bad ones but I continued to adjust and got immersed into understanding the pedals. I applied it all the time. I do when there are friends in the car with me so I needed to be extra smooth.

Today, heel and toe to me would be like using chopsticks or swimming. There's no reason I can't do a smooth execution everytime. It is a skill that I'll never forget but is one that can continue to be perfected

So, do continue exploring guys
 
Okay that's big. Very big feet

You've never met vr2turbo right? The whole family are giants. Daughter is taller than me and I'm 5"8. VR2 is 6ft+, son is way taller than him, wife is about my height. Big feet shouldn't be a surprise. LOL!
 
You've never met vr2turbo right? The whole family are giants. Daughter is taller than me and I'm 5"8. VR2 is 6ft+, son is way taller than him, wife is about my height. Big feet shouldn't be a surprise. LOL!

Met Tom once at Pubilka TT with Bryan and some other members....:biggrin:

My foot broad but size 10 to 11 only, My son's foot maybe can step on all 3 pedals......hhahhahahah:rofl:
 
Okay that's big. Very big feet

I'm kind of bias because I learned to drive in a manual 1989 5 series so I think BMW makes the best manual cars. To me, the pedals are perfect, especially when it has floor mounted throttle pedal. The pedals were straight, sturdy and good sized unlike flimsy ones found in early Asian cars, The shift mechanism was nice, although its tightness deteriorates prematurely.

But on the 3 series (quite old model) the accelerator pedal quite deep in and brake pedal quite far up.
My friend who goes GRA in his Iswara, actually bent the accelerator pedal up almost in line with brake pedal.....lol:biggrin:
 
You've never met vr2turbo right? The whole family are giants. Daughter is taller than me and I'm 5"8. VR2 is 6ft+, son is way taller than him, wife is about my height. Big feet shouldn't be a surprise. LOL!

You 5'8??? :rolleyes::rolleyes: Heheheheh
 
But in those places, only can drive in low speed which is difficult to jab the throttle.



Old luxury car?

If there's a big empty lot than can still reach up to 3rd gear even though low speeds then can practice from 3rd to 2nd to 1st. Or maybe practice in a housing complex area where the traffic is usually low.
 
Tried heel toe today. Wasn't used to it yet. I end up braking a bit more than usual because it is difficult for me heel to reach the throttle pedal as the brake pedal and throttle pedal are not aligned in my car. Brake pedal is higher than the throttle pedal. Need more practice on braking. Reminds me of the days when I started learning to drive where I am not sure how much pressure should I apply on the brakes.

On the other hand, I seemed to be more familiar with rev matching now compared to last week. I found a way to jab the throttle just nicely.
 

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