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you try 1st lah....painful giler man...like kena hang when accident
still illegal , u have to wear the standard seat belt + ur takata
Wah , seems that you have tried it since you have felt the painfulness..
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So , can't remove the standard seat belt ??
hahha... then seems like the standard 1 is useless since got takata.... later bomba ppl scold when accident... so many points need to cut...
Re: Rear Passenger Seat Belt
Found some article about it ...
Q & A about the new seatbelt law
January 01, 2009 01:48 PM Author: Chips
motortrader.com.my
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1729/page_m.asp
Do rear passengers in all vehicles have to use seatbelts at all times?
No, the new rules contained in the amendments to the Motor Vehicles (Safety Seat Belt) Rules 1977, under the Road Transport Act 1987, specify that only occupants in vehicles under private-use registration are required to comply. These cover sedan, SUV, double cab pick-up, MPV and window van models.
What vehicles are exempted from complying with the law?
All vehicles registered for commercial use including buses and taxis and, surprisingly, rental cars. Vehicles which can carry more than 8 persons (excluding the driver) are also exempted. A special exemption is provided for certain models which do not have original anchorage points to bolt on the seatbelts. This exemption can only be obtained after the vehicle has been inspected and verified by the manufacturer (Perodua says it will provide a sticker for easy identification by enforcement officers).
There is also an unusual exception concerning the presence of a fourth passenger in the rear seat even if there are only 3 seatbelts (which indicates that the manufacturer designed the vehicle for only 3 rear passengers). Apparently, there is a policy (as stated by a JKJR officer) which directs enforcement officers to ignore the law on having more people in the back than what the manufacturer designed the vehicle to take and this policy (which is said to have been in force for 'some time’) will be maintained 'indefinitely’ due to 'social implications’. Therefore, the fourth passenger who should not be there in the first place and who is at very high risk being unbelted will not be charged for an offence under the new law.
What is the penalty for not using the seatbelts?
The penalty is a fine of RM300 which can be compounded, meaning it can be paid at the police station or JPJ (be sure to get an official receipt) if you agree that you were guilty of committing the offence and do not wish to take the matter to court to argue against the summons.
From July 2009, it has been proposed that the fine will be raised to RM2,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.
Who pays the fine?
The driver will be charged for the offence if the passenger is below the age of 17. However, if the passenger is 17 years old or older, then the summons will be issued to the passenger.
My car, a 1980 model, did not come with rear seatbelts. Do I have to fit seatbelts to avoid committing an offence?
As your car was registered before January 1 1995, it is exempted from the law and rear passengers will not be committing an offence if they are not belted up. The new law requires only affected vehicles after January 1 1995 to have rear seatbelts installed for use by passengers. Nevertheless, it is a good idea to encourage all occupants to use the seatbelts if present.
Generally, most vehicles sold during the 1990s would have had rear seatbelts installed although certain models had them omitted. Manufacturers such as Perodua, Proton and Honda have offered to provide owners of affected vehicles the missing seatbelts free of charge through their authorized service centres.
If my vehicle is a pre-1995 model and my rear passengers do not use their seatbelts, are they committing an offence?
This is an interesting question and from the way the new law is worded, it seems that pre-1995 vehicles are exempted from compliance and rear occupants likewise. However, the law is not clear on what happens if the vehicles does have rear seatbelts but the occupants do not use them. Of course, in the interests of safety, use of seatbelts should be encouraged where there is a law or not.
How long do I have to install the seatbelts if they are required?
Affected vehicles, ie those registered after January 1 1995, which do not have rear seatbelts will be required to have them installed within three years from January 1 2009.
Must the seatbelts be the 3-point type only or are 2-point lap belts acceptable?
It depends on the available anchorage points to mount the seatbelts. Most modern vehicles, including MPVs, typically have 3-point retractable-type seatbelts for the passengers next to the doors. However, both types of seatbelts should be acceptable in as far as the law is concerned.
Can I buy seatbelts and install them myself?
Not many places sell seatbelts but even if you get them yourself, installation is not a matter of drilling holes in the floor or roof pillars and screwing the bolts in to secure the seatbelts. In fact, it is dangerous to drill holes in the floor and bodywork as the structure could be weakened and fail to withstand impact forces during a severe accident. The proper way is to bolt the seatbelts to special anchorage points which the engineers have provided as part of the vehicle’s design.
It is best to consult the manufacturer on this matter if you have to fit seatbelts and should it not be possible, the manufacturer should be able to support your application to the JPJ for exemption due to technical issues.
Can I buy seatbelts from those shops which sell used parts?
It is not advisable as the condition and age of the seatbelts is unknown. The material for the seatbelt can last some time but can also deteriorate if not kept clean, weakening it. The catch in the automatic reel which activates during a sudden impact to lock the seatbelt and restrain the body may also be damaged (it is usually deformed after a severe accident which causes the seatbelt to be heavily loaded) and not work any longer.
I own a MPV with three rows of seats so do the passengers in the third row have to use their seatbelts as well?
Yes, those in the third row will also have to buckle up at all times.
What about very small children? Do they need to use the seatbelt too?
The new law does not take into account very small children at all. If you are a parent with a very small child, you should buy a childseat which can be strapped onto the rear seat and the child secured in it. Very small children should not use the normal seatbelts as they can slip through or the diagonal strap could choke their neck in a severe accident as it is wrongly positioned.
Childseats can be positioned facing forward or rearwards although safety experts say that facing rearwards is better. However, it may be more comforting for the child to be able to see the parent in front so it’s up to you to decide.
For older children still small in size, it is advisable to get a 'booster’ seat which raises them slightly so that their body will be correctly positioned in relation to the seatbelt. It is important to understand that not only does the diagonal belt play an important role in restraining the body from being flung forward but the lap belt must also be properly positioned to be prevent 'submarining’ where the body can be forced under the seatbelt during a severe accident.
Are pregnant women exempted from the new law?
Seatbelt laws have never exempted pregnant women sitting at the front and the new law does not do so for rear passengers. While many women may be worried that the seatbelt could cause more harm than save them (and their baby) during an accident, safety researchers say that this is not true. The baby is already well cushioned in the body so it is vital for the mother to ensure that her body is protected from harm, which means being properly restrained during an accident. The normal 3-point seatbelt can be used but the lap belt should be positioned low, across the hip bones, under the abdomen. The diagonal strap should be placed next to the abdomen, between the breasts and along the side of the belly.
How about physically-handicapped persons?
The law does not mention this category of passengers although there is no reason why they should not also be buckled up unless there is an unusual condition which prevents them from using a seatbelt or that it causes them severe discomfort. In such a case, it is best to obtain a letter from a doctor or medical specialist and approach the JPJ for an exemption letter.
Found some article about it ...
Q & A about the new seatbelt law
January 01, 2009 01:48 PM Author: Chips
motortrader.com.my
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1729/page_m.asp
Do rear passengers in all vehicles have to use seatbelts at all times?
No, the new rules contained in the amendments to the Motor Vehicles (Safety Seat Belt) Rules 1977, under the Road Transport Act 1987, specify that only occupants in vehicles under private-use registration are required to comply. These cover sedan, SUV, double cab pick-up, MPV and window van models.
What vehicles are exempted from complying with the law?
All vehicles registered for commercial use including buses and taxis and, surprisingly, rental cars. Vehicles which can carry more than 8 persons (excluding the driver) are also exempted. A special exemption is provided for certain models which do not have original anchorage points to bolt on the seatbelts. This exemption can only be obtained after the vehicle has been inspected and verified by the manufacturer (Perodua says it will provide a sticker for easy identification by enforcement officers).
There is also an unusual exception concerning the presence of a fourth passenger in the rear seat even if there are only 3 seatbelts (which indicates that the manufacturer designed the vehicle for only 3 rear passengers). Apparently, there is a policy (as stated by a JKJR officer) which directs enforcement officers to ignore the law on having more people in the back than what the manufacturer designed the vehicle to take and this policy (which is said to have been in force for 'some time’) will be maintained 'indefinitely’ due to 'social implications’. Therefore, the fourth passenger who should not be there in the first place and who is at very high risk being unbelted will not be charged for an offence under the new law.
What is the penalty for not using the seatbelts?
The penalty is a fine of RM300 which can be compounded, meaning it can be paid at the police station or JPJ (be sure to get an official receipt) if you agree that you were guilty of committing the offence and do not wish to take the matter to court to argue against the summons.
From July 2009, it has been proposed that the fine will be raised to RM2,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.
Who pays the fine?
The driver will be charged for the offence if the passenger is below the age of 17. However, if the passenger is 17 years old or older, then the summons will be issued to the passenger.
My car, a 1980 model, did not come with rear seatbelts. Do I have to fit seatbelts to avoid committing an offence?
As your car was registered before January 1 1995, it is exempted from the law and rear passengers will not be committing an offence if they are not belted up. The new law requires only affected vehicles after January 1 1995 to have rear seatbelts installed for use by passengers. Nevertheless, it is a good idea to encourage all occupants to use the seatbelts if present.
Generally, most vehicles sold during the 1990s would have had rear seatbelts installed although certain models had them omitted. Manufacturers such as Perodua, Proton and Honda have offered to provide owners of affected vehicles the missing seatbelts free of charge through their authorized service centres.
If my vehicle is a pre-1995 model and my rear passengers do not use their seatbelts, are they committing an offence?
This is an interesting question and from the way the new law is worded, it seems that pre-1995 vehicles are exempted from compliance and rear occupants likewise. However, the law is not clear on what happens if the vehicles does have rear seatbelts but the occupants do not use them. Of course, in the interests of safety, use of seatbelts should be encouraged where there is a law or not.
How long do I have to install the seatbelts if they are required?
Affected vehicles, ie those registered after January 1 1995, which do not have rear seatbelts will be required to have them installed within three years from January 1 2009.
Must the seatbelts be the 3-point type only or are 2-point lap belts acceptable?
It depends on the available anchorage points to mount the seatbelts. Most modern vehicles, including MPVs, typically have 3-point retractable-type seatbelts for the passengers next to the doors. However, both types of seatbelts should be acceptable in as far as the law is concerned.
Can I buy seatbelts and install them myself?
Not many places sell seatbelts but even if you get them yourself, installation is not a matter of drilling holes in the floor or roof pillars and screwing the bolts in to secure the seatbelts. In fact, it is dangerous to drill holes in the floor and bodywork as the structure could be weakened and fail to withstand impact forces during a severe accident. The proper way is to bolt the seatbelts to special anchorage points which the engineers have provided as part of the vehicle’s design.
It is best to consult the manufacturer on this matter if you have to fit seatbelts and should it not be possible, the manufacturer should be able to support your application to the JPJ for exemption due to technical issues.
Can I buy seatbelts from those shops which sell used parts?
It is not advisable as the condition and age of the seatbelts is unknown. The material for the seatbelt can last some time but can also deteriorate if not kept clean, weakening it. The catch in the automatic reel which activates during a sudden impact to lock the seatbelt and restrain the body may also be damaged (it is usually deformed after a severe accident which causes the seatbelt to be heavily loaded) and not work any longer.
I own a MPV with three rows of seats so do the passengers in the third row have to use their seatbelts as well?
Yes, those in the third row will also have to buckle up at all times.
What about very small children? Do they need to use the seatbelt too?
The new law does not take into account very small children at all. If you are a parent with a very small child, you should buy a childseat which can be strapped onto the rear seat and the child secured in it. Very small children should not use the normal seatbelts as they can slip through or the diagonal strap could choke their neck in a severe accident as it is wrongly positioned.
Childseats can be positioned facing forward or rearwards although safety experts say that facing rearwards is better. However, it may be more comforting for the child to be able to see the parent in front so it’s up to you to decide.
For older children still small in size, it is advisable to get a 'booster’ seat which raises them slightly so that their body will be correctly positioned in relation to the seatbelt. It is important to understand that not only does the diagonal belt play an important role in restraining the body from being flung forward but the lap belt must also be properly positioned to be prevent 'submarining’ where the body can be forced under the seatbelt during a severe accident.
Are pregnant women exempted from the new law?
Seatbelt laws have never exempted pregnant women sitting at the front and the new law does not do so for rear passengers. While many women may be worried that the seatbelt could cause more harm than save them (and their baby) during an accident, safety researchers say that this is not true. The baby is already well cushioned in the body so it is vital for the mother to ensure that her body is protected from harm, which means being properly restrained during an accident. The normal 3-point seatbelt can be used but the lap belt should be positioned low, across the hip bones, under the abdomen. The diagonal strap should be placed next to the abdomen, between the breasts and along the side of the belly.
How about physically-handicapped persons?
The law does not mention this category of passengers although there is no reason why they should not also be buckled up unless there is an unusual condition which prevents them from using a seatbelt or that it causes them severe discomfort. In such a case, it is best to obtain a letter from a doctor or medical specialist and approach the JPJ for an exemption letter.
hahaha... i still got 3yrs time... by that time, i oredi sold my car loo...
How long do I have to install the seatbelts if they are required?
Affected vehicles, ie those registered after January 1 1995, which do not have rear seatbelts will be required to have them installed within three years from January 1 2009.
Must the seatbelts be the 3-point type only or are 2-point lap belts acceptable?
It depends on the available anchorage points to mount the seatbelts. Most modern vehicles, including MPVs, typically have 3-point retractable-type seatbelts for the passengers next to the doors. However, both types of seatbelts should be acceptable in as far as the law is concerned.
How long do I have to install the seatbelts if they are required?
Affected vehicles, ie those registered after January 1 1995, which do not have rear seatbelts will be required to have them installed within three years from January 1 2009.
Must the seatbelts be the 3-point type only or are 2-point lap belts acceptable?
It depends on the available anchorage points to mount the seatbelts. Most modern vehicles, including MPVs, typically have 3-point retractable-type seatbelts for the passengers next to the doors. However, both types of seatbelts should be acceptable in as far as the law is concerned.
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