EMS Dyno Results

[vteckiller]

aggre with u jo,,, slamat ari rayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:wavey:

yah man...i guess that should be the way la.. :)

 

[oinkoink]

just a thought of mine....
having big horse power doesn't mean the car will be faster then a lower horse power car.
a few point which i think make a big different
1. weight play a big part. power to weight ratio.
the lighter car you have you will have a faster pick up as less power is require to push the car to start off.
2. gearbox ratio also play a big part.
close ratio gear box determine on how fast you can pull thru the RPM to put the full horse power into usage. proper gearing is require to put the full power into use.
3. aero dynamics also play a part
aero dynamics will determine of how much down force and traction you had on high speed and how much power require to break thru the air. too much down force will cause your car to be slow, too little down force will cause the car to be unstable at high speed.

 

[vteckiller]

just a thought of mine....
having big horse power doesn't mean the car will be faster then a lower horse power car.
a few point which i think make a big different
1. weight play a big part. power to weight ratio.
the lighter car you have you will have a faster pick up as less power is require to push the car to start off.
2. gearbox ratio also play a big part.
close ratio gear box determine on how fast you can pull thru the RPM to put the full horse power into usage. proper gearing is require to put the full power into use.
3. aero dynamics also play a part
aero dynamics will determine of how much down force and traction you had on high speed and how much power require to break thru the air. too much down force will cause your car to be slow, too little down force will cause the car to be unstable at high speed.

u got it right oinkoink....hahah..

 

[oinkoink]

so end of the days dyno figure is just a gauge of how the engine perform. it does not mean all the power can be put to usage on actual road. so guys dun take it too hard =)

hope i dun get flame for this

 

[kelvins3281]

Agree with u all bros...
gud word...

 

[yopo]

totally agree with u jo1...
actually the more hp u have the more r&d u need on gearbox,suspension,driveshalft,tires,etc..etc...its not easy...

by the way shahz..the 12 or 13 second was based on the time tangan last time..those cars who ran 9sec only running 11second so it does not make any diff..maybe instead of flaming people around....saying that u r the best tuner...best just prove us all in sdb that u r really the best by producing your yellow pages car with a 9sec pass or something like this...

my own car last time was 426hp i did 11.5second and when i had 800hp i only did 11.2sec...so there is no logic rite?but yes traction man...so u cant just go condeming people who have big power...whether u tune or i tune or whoever tune...its just best u say good things of others as well....so that all the forumers here can benifit from each and others different setup and experience and power band...rather than u r the best,better,etc....

well...continue motorsporting mates...and dont get discourage by people looking down on u...work hard on the traction and u will sure do it...matter of time.....take it easy....

and yes
selamat hari raya to all muslim forumers..and happy holidays to all malaysian....

AGREED..tq jo for the good catch..hahaha
it shows how professional/good tuner do their biz
(still amazed how stubborn people can be though majority had voiced out their concern)
Selamat Hari Raya..

 

[jinkl]

so whos inviting me for rendang
10q in advance :D

 

[ETT POWER II]

totally agree with u jo1...
actually the more hp u have the more r&d u need on gearbox,suspension,driveshalft,tires,etc..etc...its not easy...

by the way shahz..the 12 or 13 second was based on the time tangan last time..those cars who ran 9sec only running 11second so it does not make any diff..maybe instead of flaming people around....saying that u r the best tuner...best just prove us all in sdb that u r really the best by producing your yellow pages car with a 9sec pass or something like this...

my own car last time was 426hp i did 11.5second and when i had 800hp i only did 11.2sec...so there is no logic rite?but yes traction man...so u cant just go condeming people who have big power...whether u tune or i tune or whoever tune...its just best u say good things of others as well....so that all the forumers here can benifit from each and others different setup and experience and power band...rather than u r the best,better,etc....

well...continue motorsporting mates...and dont get discourage by people looking down on u...work hard on the traction and u will sure do it...matter of time.....take it easy....

and yes
selamat hari raya to all muslim forumers..and happy holidays to all malaysian....

426hp & 800hp surely with the same tuner......so same skill.....( as use 3rd gear ) no point here....good job....

but 432.5hp & 521.2hp "perfectly" different tuner......so 432.2 with 4th gear......and 521.2hp "perfectly" with 3rd gear......and diff. booosting......tengok baik2 MASKULIN....

and :questionmark:here gt30 response at 2400rpm.....waaaa........personally, got s**k here....so after this i will test my car at dyno with 2nd gear la....sure 1800rpm punye....


SELAMAT HARI RAYA MASKULIN.....

 

[jo1]

So what is the gt30 response characteristic in b8 should be?

In a 4g63t it normal that the gt30 start spooling after 3k and getting full boost around 5k depend on the boost level.

In the 500+ dyno chart, it seem that the gt30 start spooling around 4k and getting full boost just before 6k on b8 engine, it seem reasonable to me unless the turbo using stage 5 wheel and bigger than t3 a/r .8X turbine housing.

If i'm wrong please enlighten with some guide to improve my knowledge on tuning.

 

[wej7219]

1. The dyno calculated horsepower based on the torque produced by the car. So, if you are able to tune the turbo to spool at lower rpm which produce a lot of torque will net a big horsepower.

Sure about that? Remember rpm x tq/5252? That why most stroker motor doesn't makes high hp, at least the older stroker motor where rev is a limiting factor.

Your car dah siap?

 

[zaki]

Sure about that? Remember rpm x tq/5252? That why most stroker motor doesn't makes high hp, at least the older stroker motor where rev is a limiting factor.

Your car dah siap?

nice avatar...:proud:

 

[piramid]

nice avatar...:proud:

he no longer interested with 4 bangers huh? play 6 potter plak?

 

[jo1]

Sure about that? Remember rpm x tq/5252? That why most stroker motor doesn't makes high hp, at least the older stroker motor where rev is a limiting factor.

Your car dah siap?

not yet... maybe t'row.

I know it work in another way around, I'm comparing the two dyno chart for the same car (B8) which the peak power is after 5252. Actually, i'm trying to point out about the torque figure of the car not really the hp but you only realize about the misconception of my point not the different of the torque... hehehehehe

Anyway, for today application the turbo (gt30 and above.. no green anymore) always producing power after the '5252' if you really touch up after that it will show big number but lower torque, below the '5252' it show lower hp but higher torque.

 

[yopo]

keep seing the machine before in uk perdana..
lying next to warden's machine..
hope to see it in action in SDB

 

[zaki]

not yet... maybe t'row.

I know it work in another way around, I'm comparing the two dyno chart for the same car (B8) which the peak power is after 5252.

Anyway, for today application the turbo (gt30 and above.. no green anymore) always producing power after the '5252' if you really touch up after that it will show big number but lower torque, below the '5252' it show lower hp but higher torque.

i love the word `green'. people nowadays are concerned with environment. but some people took the initiative wayyy earlier....

i don't actually understand the issue here. please enlighten me. i'm a little bit too slow.

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/attachments/tech-engine-management-systems/244220d1252951575-ems-dyno-results-e30-sr20.jpg

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/attachments/tech-engine-management-systems/244328d1252983333-ems-dyno-results-b8-asrul-amer-sg-petani.jpg

 

[jo1]

get the dyno chart from microtechefi forum which show the torque figure...

max torque around +-240lbft 432 whp vs 400lbft 512whp.. see the different in rpm.. late spool netted bigger hp vs fast spool get lower hp but look at the torque figure? so, the first point is more like pointing a wrong thing for somebody to notice the actual result...

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he no longer interested with 4 bangers huh? play 6 potter plak?

The avatar is for your encouragement to produce the 1200++Rwhp monster sooner.. brent rau in the making.

 

[zaki]

get the dyno chart from microtechefi forum which show the torque figure...

max torque around +-240lbft 432 whp vs 400lbft 512whp.. see the different in rpm.. late spool netted bigger hp vs fast spool get lower hp but look at the torque figure? so, the first point is more like pointing a wrong thing for somebody to notice the actual result...

---------- Post added at 05:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 PM ----------



The avatar is for your encouragement to produce the 1200++Rwhp monster sooner.. brent rau in the making.

i couldn't find the dyno GRAPH...
the turbos are different anyways..
nevermind...

but i'm wondering what is the fuel line pressure as the setup shows that the injectors are 550cc/min

 

[piramid]

get the dyno chart from microtechefi forum which show the torque figure...

max torque around +-240lbft 432 whp vs 400lbft 512whp.. see the different in rpm.. late spool netted bigger hp vs fast spool get lower hp but look at the torque figure? so, the first point is more like pointing a wrong thing for somebody to notice the actual result...

---------- Post added at 05:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 PM ----------



The avatar is for your encouragement to produce the 1200++Rwhp monster sooner.. brent rau in the making.

1200whp?? in my dreams...

wej possible la...

 

[vteckiller]

426hp & 800hp surely with the same tuner......so same skill.....( as use 3rd gear ) no point here....good job....

but 432.5hp & 521.2hp "perfectly" different tuner......so 432.2 with 4th gear......and 521.2hp "perfectly" with 3rd gear......and diff. booosting......tengok baik2 MASKULIN....

and :questionmark:here gt30 response at 2400rpm.....waaaa........personally, got s**k here....so after this i will test my car at dyno with 2nd gear la....sure 1800rpm punye....


SELAMAT HARI RAYA MASKULIN.....

hey shah,hahah u try la run 2nd gear la...
just for your info...the car ran on 4th gear as well....
even if 3rd gear or 4th gear it would be approx the same peak torque and peak hp..so dont give excuses about diff gear,etc....and the chart clearly shows nothing about 2400rpm boost...?u blind or what?give it up....why can't u just accept...that maybe the car has a lot moore ingnition timing at the right places of the tune and a lot less ingnition timing at the right place as well....and therefore results to good hp and torque..when u have high torque then the issues of wheel spin,etc....

grow up la....

u r a tuner and a business man..so behave like one...

---------- Post added at 01:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 AM ----------

AGREED..tq jo for the good catch..hahaha
it shows how professional/good tuner do their biz
(still amazed how stubborn people can be though majority had voiced out their concern)
Selamat Hari Raya..

thanks yopo

---------- Post added at 01:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:15 AM ----------

i couldn't find the dyno GRAPH...
the turbos are different anyways..
nevermind...

but i'm wondering what is the fuel line pressure as the setup shows that the injectors are 550cc/min

it runs 2-bosch 044pumps and runs at 4.5bar static..and maxed out the injectors...as it was running on racing fuel..so the afr is 12ish so no probs...if pump gas would need more more more fuel...

 

[N-gage]

whaaa...
ETT POWER II????
another username from shah????
like "org2 tua zaman dulu daaa..."huhuhu