as u wish...AJ6677 said:reedoor,
can u pls paste ben's comment abt the issue here ar?
below are by ben... & *** are fr me...
bill to pay off loan he owed bank RM 27,810, dated 04-01-06.
apologies for unclear pictures. for those who want to see it in person, you know where i live.
year 2002 tyres are not what you accept as trade after you've bought a car. I paid RM 45k for this car which I thought would be fun. A car normally runs with average mileage of 20k per annum would have even with worn tyres, 2004 ones on them. You guys check the market price, k. You be the judge. As a trade you'd also have them on a balancer to check for pothole dinks etc.. but I guess we have lots of forummers tomorrow.
I sold my 1984 car with an M20B25 engine which is 22 years old and still runs, with bills and customs declarations, full leather and fondmetal wheels etc. Rust is a sure thing. He sent 2 other mechanics to check the car.
I don't want to add what I've had to do with his car. There are 2 sides to a story. As far as I'd love to battle it out here, I have other things to bog me down.
It's only in my interest to receive what's acceptable before parting with certain things. And in this case it's only a set of wheels and an old engine and tranny.
It's been 2 months, I've not seen good tyres with good wheels.
It's normal business practice to hold what you've got till you've gotten what's been agreed. When there are 2 parties and different standards, there are often gray areas which in this case is difficult to iron out.
It's sad that it has to be this way. But if all are willing............
I'd be glad for an exchange meeting with everyone present. How about that? At my house too http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/html/emoticons/yahoo.gif
How about tt session in taman tun? Tomorrow? Everyone comin'?
Decent tyres, not 2002 whatever the tyre. Rubber is rubber. For those of us who went to school, it deteriorates. Unfortunately some of us did chemistry. I don't want to bore you with molecular bonds.
If you check with follow forummers, I've given away 2003 tyres because I wont use them anymore and I've sold off my 2004 tyres dirt cheap. I mean this as no offence to anyone. I'm merely defending my argument here.
So there we are. Tomorrow night TT?
ONE SET original SATRIA GTI wheels with at least 2004 Imported tyres - like GTIs come with. Jap or german made preferred. Or new underlicenced ones, which are also fine.
for LIVE exchange
with ONE ZF4HP22 auto tranny and m20b25 engine that came with the car I've sold. No bills with this one, bought as it is with car and rebuilt.
and one set of 17 inch wheels which i've used for 2 months and are now back in my hands.
C'mon guys? Am I being generous now? So 'FAIR' trade tomorrow?
Show up only with CORRECT items in hand. Talk is cheap, right guys?
As for beating up etc.. It's not worth it for a trade worth less than 2k lar. That's child's play k. Meant as no offence too. C'mon let's be more constructive. Let's not dabble with underworld events. It's out of date.
There's a field with tables in front of my house. We can have a session there. Just bring drinks k. Happy faces and smiles http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif
Kelvin, I don't mean to hurt feelings. It's negotiation. I can't give you more of my time as much as I'd love to. For hurt feelings, I apologize. I boiled when you brought me 2002 tyres, that's all. For that I apologize too. I'd love to shake your hand, sit down for a drink and have a laugh with all. But bring good wheels and good unexpired tyres please, and the lorry. I don't want to be held responsible anymore, as of NOW. And as of now. The items are in my house. And you know where I live. Giving in cannot be one way, in any relationship or dealing. C'mon show us your nice side? We live in a society with all kinds. Let's not slag anyone off. Especially those we don't know and aren't here to defend.
That's as kind as I can be. I also think I've put it in as nice a manner as I can. I also apologize for replying late and for not posting earlier. It's the nature of my job. BUT TOMORROW, I'M FREE!
I'm not offering excuses. I've got things in hand. And I'm inviting all. I'll even come up with some drinks. I'm open to anyone giving a hand. Kelvin, you in? And all the others? Oh the address 84 ss20/26. That's opposite Pizza Hut TTDI. The one with the engine sitting outside.
We can all adjourn to some other place too. Let's see the poll.
http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif the bandit? http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/html/emoticons/yahoo.gif
*** attached with some transfer tickets which not shown here, & continue with wat he says...
transfer tickets. i paid for both too.
fair trade? too generous?
so, show or no show? I'm sure some of you friends out there are calling me silly now. but whatever it takes to prove a point I guess.
let's see how many people want 2002 tyres on their car?? after concluding and signing the dotted line?? and having done the transfer. I'm offering not quite that, just newer ones in exchange for superior things and +++
that's all the time i'm spending here.
*** & de next post...
Thank you guys.
Now's a story of a guy who's owed money to the bank which i've cleared by buying a satria gti at 45k. Any dealer would only have given 39k tops.
And he buys my e30 325i with all round discs and leather seats for for 14k.
Discount 6k from the above and you have 8k albeit rust, I think most would have it. All old e30s have that problem.
Plus extra gearbox and engine, you have the car for 6k tops. Please be reasonable.
I don't wish to slag reedoor off as he has done as it would only bring me to his level. Meant as no offence too. He's young and has lots to learn. I have too. Patience with people being one. As well as tolerance. My bluntness also brought to this.
Communication skills another. If you read me as wanting to cheat you. Nope. It's just negotiation. And it should be one on one and not create a newspaper daily like in ZTH as well as this place.
There is also an endless list to add to what's needed to be done to his car which I will not further bother with. It doesn't aid in solving anything.
Reedoor, I'd appreciate that you bring what's acceptable and take what's yours as well as to clear up after what's been created, here and zth.
And don't forget to bring a lorry with a hoist. Don't want anyone damaging my front drive. Please do it quickly as well. Don't take another 2 months and have me writing another lenghty post. I sure don't enjoy it, I'm sure you don't and I doubt I'll even find this kind of time to do it again. There's no compensation for time is there? When you purchase something do it quickly. We are not your store houses and we don't charge storage fees either. Fact and meant as no offence. Count yourself as lucky that I can reason. And I also count myself lucky that you've not done anything silly. Do it quickly or I'll have it outside the gate for whoever wants to pick it up. I don't need those things. It's just a matter of principal. I'm trying to point something out here. Bringing a set of 2002 tyres for all that I've paid is an insult. I have bought a new set as you have seen. We all have pride and should stoop to those levels. A conman wouldn't give you 2 working engines and 2 working automatic gearboxes. I'm sure you haven't a clue how much they cost either. You have to be able to distinguish facts from fables. I can give you endless things for you to read on tyre compounds and composites. In our weather and temp, tyres go in no time. It's just that it's not worth my time and I'd rather chuck out facts as I'd have to spend days explaining in layman terms. Also meant as no offence. I guess talking crap against someone talking crap doesn't solve a problem either. For that I also apologize. Could I be more gracious? Let's both spend time doing more constuctive things k? Deal?
Just bring those rims with decent tyres. The problem with the both of us is that neither one listens or gives in. There has to be a path where 2 meet. It cannot be a one way win or deal all the time. C'mon give and take.
If you've still no money then??? I'm even inclined to deal and wait for tyres, but what's the likelihood of you coming back with them in the future? Hence I hold. I've been bitten so many times that it's just automatic to be careful. Can I trust you? That's why sometimes I prefer to give. You want me to give again? I can afford it, but it's your dignity at stake. No issues. You think about it.
Slagging people off should be banned. It's ugly
With this I end. No further discussion. Thank you.
*** & more...
potenza g3? wheeler dealer this chap I'm dealing with?
On forums we sell things we have used which we own.
It's a really simple topic here. Good tyres with the rims and we deal.
I bought an overpriced car riddled with problems which I will not dabble on here as I've accepted it when I bought it. As to honesty, it's another lengthy topic to be discuss on used car sale/exchange. There is no end. On a short note, I bought a car which was only used by this guys for a couple of months.
doesn't take long to predict and find where it came from too.
so look, just bring what's acceptable and take your things quickly. no offence we all want to get on with what we're doing. It's another busy day for me. So till then....... I wait. Simple and straightforward, but now with an audience.
***he attached a members post & contact which i dont think we shud involve him in this incident...
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