to turbo or not

[simon]

hi members, just an inquiry.....maybe got discussed before but cannot find the thread........

ok i want to change my engine for more power....my current ride using 4G15 injection on wira 2004 dec model...mileage reach 117,000++.....engine still good condition no oil consumption/problems.........

iam seriously thinking of converting to 1.8gsr turbo but some opinions by friends are stopping me, they say since i clock high mileage and the car will be my daily workhorse its going to be troublesome with a turbo charged car and they say the car will not be as reliable as now....

so pls advise me if i shd upgrade to n/a engine or turbo.....my purpose is to get more power but the engine shd be reliable.....its not a weekend car or for racing purposes but going to be used daily for work and lots of highwaying & outstations regularly.........

so what engine is suitable & n/a or turbo ??? tks a lot guys.....!!!!!!!

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

no highrevs, no racing, jz enough for daily drive and long distances...
no need turbo lah... 4g93t nowadays aint cheap...

mayb jz get the 4g93 NA version good enough.... or u want a smooth engine for outstation and highway drive, get a 6a10 (its a 1.6L v6 engine from mitsibushi)....

 

[GT_AUTO]

waaa....6a10???no lar.to big n heavy.weight distribution went off the chart.:)
for daily use w/o modifying it,4g93t should be no problem.all engine r made
to withstand certain level of durability.just check the oil every5k km should
be enough.this engine is quite reliable.

 

[karl5511]

4G93 N/A is better...4G93T is quite expensive bcoz a lot of ppl go for it as it can be endorsed easier due to being 1.8cc...
You can get 4G93 N/A complete with d/board around 3k only...

 

[avaultz]

waaa....6a10???no lar.to big n heavy.weight distribution went off the chart.:)
for daily use w/o modifying it,4g93t should be no problem.all engine r made
to withstand certain level of durability.just check the oil every5k km should
be enough.this engine is quite reliable.

yeah.. i kinda agree with gt_auto coz im using gsr as well(in stock condition) with standard modifications such as aftermarkets air filters,bov,exhaust n etc.

the engine is good for daily used as i travel back to melaka every weekend.( fc frm kl-ayer keroh rm25)

gsr is a gd engine for gila bunyi kepissssh... haha

just my 2 cent.

 

[mag9556]

4g93 Mivec will be superb...hahahahaha....
Just like the dilema I am having before...hohohohohoho...

Dun think too much just go for what u really what..
93T is very good but have 2 version...
Try to drive.. u will luv ur car very much especially the G-force..
find the 210bhp one that have evo intercooler...
Infact I have plan to put 67Turbo for my wira liao...
Good Luck...

 

[popout]

go for 4g92 mivec lo

 

[zero2hundred]

sumbody said turbo more xpensive in terms on maintenance la,sumbody wud said n/a cheaper,for me reliability is always there if u maintain the car on time no matter turbo or n/a as long as u dun mod the engine like a madness track car lidat shud be okay...and control ur foots..hehe...my frens gsr fulltank able to reach 480km for daily driving,think nobody wud belif it...but its true...

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

TS said he want something easier to maintain and good for long distance mah... he didnt say want any performance ride or racing purposes also... keep the budget reasonable and choose an NA engine lo....

yes, turbo engines wont take much to maintain as well if it is used at as stock basis... but still, parts such as turbine, bov, wastegate, intercooler and so on do need servicing rite... if NA, dont need to bother about it lo...

besides, during long distance drive, if u tend to boost often, it will kill ur fuel consumption... why not settle for something reasonable and within budget if he isnt going for any performance engine??...

at least, leave those GSRs for those who really wants it....

 

[jasonlel]

Simon, if you want it, just do it

 

[simon]

ok bros..... tks a lor for the advice & tips.....jz was wondering....when i am converting other than the engine & related parts wat else do i need to change....i am not interested to change the dashboard so do i really need a halfcut or can i jz buy the engine+parts ???

 

[strangex2]

Most probably you need to do an overhaul of the engine which adds to the costs.

Btw, if you have the thirst for the turbo, better go for it, later you pasang N/A, you got the power, but you don't have the blow off sound still tak puas... dilemma tuh!

 

[mag9556]

Most probably you need to do an overhaul of the engine which adds to the costs.

Btw, if you have the thirst for the turbo, better go for it, later you pasang N/A, you got the power, but you don't have the blow off sound still tak puas... dilemma tuh!

Totally agreed...
Once u mod liao cant satisfied then need to trow money for another mod.. pocket koyak man...

 

[karl5511]

Totally agreed...
Once u mod liao cant satisfied then need to trow money for another mod.. pocket koyak man...

Hehe... Maybe he just wanna drive stock turbo condition only, like me...

 

[zero2hundred]

simon,can....u can buy an engine lantai completed wif gb,ecu and wirings..the rest can be done without changing the dashboard..and yea u haftu to know what u really wants actually..a turbo or an n/a...if u tend to play only n/a den its ok, not until u got tempted when hearing others bov sound,now u haftu spend another cost for turbo pulakz...what u did is wasted rite..!! hmm...actually i/c,bov,wastegate and so on wouldnt need to maintain it...its self interested which chosen by urself whether u wanna use aftermarkets wan or stock..and as for turbine..erm...u need to repair it if u see any oil leakage on it only unless u wanna mod it, its like spend one time in a million yrs only if u like to maintain a stock condition is very easy...afterall....to boost or not to boost...depends on how heavy ur foots lerr....

 

[simon]

tks bro.........actually my preference is a turbo engine but at the same time reliabilty is also important.....i have driven my colleague's turbo charged car some years back & it really gives a kick so im so eager to convert mine but i think its best to get some advice before i part with my money...hehehe

 

[forsaken_avatar]

go for turbo, overhaul the engine, n keep it stock...

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

tks bro.........actually my preference is a turbo engine but at the same time reliabilty is also important.....i have driven my colleague's turbo charged car some years back & it really gives a kick so im so eager to convert mine but i think its best to get some advice before i part with my money...hehehe

since u oledi decided, why still ask us leh??...:hmmmm:

 

[simon]

bro i said my preference....i didnt say decided lah....if its not worth it for my kind of usage then i would opt for n/a......

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

if i say not worth, soon ur desire will overcome and u'll regret not having a 4g93t at the first place.... for ur driving routes and long distance often, i definately suggest u NA engine.... but then, no doubt turbo will give u more excitement... so u have to dcide urself lo....

if u wanna get the minor kick while still maintain NA, can get 1.6 mivec... u want more kick, can hibrid with 1.8 block...