4G15 to ???

[deep_thinkers]

so... for satria 1.6m do i need to mod the mounting if i put in 4g61 or 4g93? which is more better in term of cost vs performance?

 

[kugan81]

yo guys.. sorry for being missing for so long.. quite busy with work..

ckw86 Posted on Nov 9 2004, 06:17
heyz i'm totally new here..

wat if i only want the engine and wiring?? coz student ma..not rich...

well i am not sure man,, but it is going to be quite difficult to get only the engine and wiring because you will have to hunt for it individually.
i am not sure of the price but it should be cheaper la..

deep_thinkers Posted on Nov 9 2004, 09:32
so... for satria 1.6m do i need to mod the mounting if i put in 4g61 or 4g93? which is more better in term of cost vs performance?

no man, if you have a 1.6 i dont think you have to change the munting as the 1.6 engine and the 1.8 engine is the same except for the Crankshaft and the con rods as i was telling before..



Guys.. good news for the people who drive 1.3 litre cars..

OK i was doing some research and i found out that Mitsubishi also has a 1.5 Twin CAM, TWIN CAM dudes.. which means you people who dirve the 1.3 can upgrade..

all you have to do it get the 1.5 twin cam, rebore the engine, dump 1.6 pistons or if you all are really keen 2.0 pistons and crankshaft and con rods and a TD05 turbo kit.. you have the power of a VR4 , but you will need to change the Throttle body, fuel pumps, fuel injectors, wiring .. its a complete rebuild but please register the 1.5 engine in its Stock condition before doing all these upgrades. i dont have the engine model yet but i will get it for you guys.. i saw a few in the Half cut shops.. so you pay 1.5 road tax and have 2.0 turbo power... cool huh.. thats what i call japanese technology as they are to totally upgradeable

hope this btings joy to the people drving 1.3's

 

[apislinkin]

Originally posted by kugan81@Nov 10 2004, 09:13

OK i was doing some research and i found out that Mitsubishi also has a 1.5 Twin CAM, TWIN CAM dudes.. which means you people who dirve the 1.3 can upgrade..

all you have to do it get the 1.5 twin cam, rebore the engine, dump 1.6 pistons or if you all are really keen 2.0 pistons and crankshaft and con rods and a TD05 turbo kit.. you have the power of a VR4 , but you will need to change the Throttle body, fuel pumps, fuel injectors, wiring .. its a complete rebuild but please register the 1.5 engine in its Stock condition before doing all these upgrades. i dont have the engine model yet but i will get it for you guys.. i saw a few in the Half cut shops.. so you pay 1.5 road tax and have 2.0 turbo power... cool huh.. thats what i call japanese technology as they are to totally upgradeable

emmm... but the cost is more higher than u totally transplant from a turbo 1/2 cut right...? but if u wanna feel a forced induction, just doit like a kugan81 said... :D

 

[kugan81]

yup you are right man... it is more expensive for the initial cost as you have to rebuild the whole engine but in the long run you save on road tax and insurance..

 

[mj23]

the price of road tax between 1.5 and 2.0 differs about rm170++. Although kugan's idea is nice but i think it's better to just do the transplant :P

u can check the roadtax calculation http://www.autoworld.com.my/tools/roadtax.asp :)

 

[whatdamn]

kugan81,

twin cam = DOHC (dual overhead cam)???

umm, isn't it the 4G91 engine from mitsu that is 1.5l DOHC?

 

[ksgoh]

what car is using 4g61t??

 

[kugan81]

whatdamn Posted on Nov 11 2004, 17:01
kugan81,

twin cam = DOHC (dual overhead cam)???

umm, isn't it the 4G91 engine from mitsu that is 1.5l DOHC?

yup i think thats it man but i knw there is a Mitsu 1.5 DOHC...i think you are right man it is a 4G91..

i drive a Proton Iswara VR4 - RS and a Celica 1.8 na

 

[GSR5559]

4G91 = 1.5 DOHC
4G92 / 4G92P = 1.6 Mivec / 1.6 SOHC
4G61t = 1.6T from Mirage .. halfcut front like VR4 but body chassis shorter..
4G63 = VR4/Evo

 

[whatdamn]

i think the new ones from the lancer series has the 4g15 engine tag instead of the 4g91.

cause saw someone selling a 4g15 DOHC with auto tiptronic g/box.

hmmmm...interesting. :)

 

[nightshadow]

yeah there is a 4g15 DOHC. There is also a 4g92 DOHC (non-mivec) that puts out 106kW @ fly wheel. the 4g93 DOHC puts out 100kW @ fly, so its pretty good for a 1.6 L.
4g92 mivec is like 130Kw - and would be my choice if you could afford it.
there are bunch of aussie guys that have done the DOHC conversion to the 4g15 SOHC engine - just change the head. but I think a conversion to this 4g91T or a 4g92 DOHC or 4g92 MIVEC would be better, more power for money.

 

[kugan81]

dude... DOHC = double overhead cams...

 

[tajulsans]

Originally posted by ksgoh@Nov 12 2004, 21:14
what car is using 4g61t??

its the old mirage turbo.. the one with the front end looking like the VR4

 

[3gciviczc]

hi guys,
I'm helping out a fren here. HE just did a swap for a 4G91 engine into his wira. any one knows wahats the price for a new timing belt and the cost???
Appriaciate the help given??
Cheerssssssssssssssssss

 

[Choon]

hmm.. oni can upgrade 200cc from ori engine? but y the JPJ website got this thing?

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JENIS-JENIS PERMOHONAN

1)Penukaran enjin yang sama model dan keupayaan kapasiti dengan enjin asal

2)Penukaran enjin dari model yang sama dan keupayaan kapasiti tidak melebihi atau tidak kurang 25% dari enjin yang asal

3)Penukaran enjin dari model yang sama dan keupayaan melebihi atau kurang 25% dari keupayaan asal.

4)Penukaran enjin dengan menggunakan bahan api berbeza dari yang asal.

5)Penukaran enjin dari model yang berlainan dari enjin asal.

SYARAT-SYARAT PERMOHONAN



Bagi kategori 1 - permohonan dihantar terus kepada JPJ negeri dengan melampirkan dokumen-dokumen berikut .

Borang permohonan/Lampiran A
Kad Pendaftaran yang asal
Resit Pembelian enjin yang asal
Surat Kastam K1 yang disahkan
Insuran yang baru .
Bagi kategori 2 - Pemohon perlu membuat pemeriksaan khas di PUSPAKOM dan melaporkan kepada JPJ negeri dengan melampirkan dokumen-dokumen berikut :

Borang permohonan/Lampiran A
Kad Pendaftaran yang asal
Resit Pembelian enjin yang asal
Surat Kastam K1 yang disahkan
Surat Pelepasan Tanggungan
Laporan pemeriksaan PUSPAKOM (B2)
LKM (Cukai Jalan) Asal
Insurans Kenderaan yang baru
Bagi kategori 3,4 DAN 5 - Pemohon perlu membuat permohonan Kepada Bahagian Teknik, Ibu Pejabat dengan melampirkan dokumen-dokumen berikut:

Borang permohonan/Lampiran A

Salinan Kad Pendaftaran
Salinan Resit pembelian enjin .
Salinan surat Kastam (K1) .
Setelah mendapat kelulusan dari Bahagian Teknik , pemohon perlu mengikut proses kategori 2 .



Syarat syarat yang perlu dipatuhi ketika membuat pertukaran enjin

Tidak ada pengubahsuaian pada enjin ‘Mounting’
Kimpalan pada enjin ‘Mounting’ tidak dibenarkan.
‘Propeller Shaft’ tidak dibenarkan dipotong atau disambung di mana-mana bahagian.
Tiada keretakan atau karat pada enjin ‘Mounting’.
Sistem brek perlu dinaikkan taraf bagi enjin kapasiti melebihi 25% daripada kapasiti enjin asal.
Sistem gantungan (Suspension System) perlu dinaikkan taraf merangkumi 'Spring Stiffness'.

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