Persona Elegance with many problems?

[artworkz]

the throttle body is drive by wire... is slower respone if ur is manual gb. for auto, u ll not notice

 

[s4ph_xtuner]

yesterday i found that persona elegent very fast n responsive...my old persona cant cloosed so far huhu

 

[azzrizul]

the throttle body is drive by wire... is slower respone if ur is manual gb. for auto, u ll not notice

so, can i do anything to make it normal?

 

[Zidane]

so, can i do anything to make it normal?

If the case is the same with Savvy, just change the exhaust.

There will be tremendous difference in torque (much better) and fuel consumption (abit more fuel for the same mileage).

But this is for my savvy.

 

[artworkz]

so, can i do anything to make it normal?

now the car is `normal` for a drive by wire engine. u no need do anything.

 

[fruitplus]

Small Family Cars
1st Place: Toyota Vios 'J' 6.1 (liter/100km)
2nd Place: Proton Persona 6.75 (liter/100km)
3rd Place: Honda City 6.8 (liter/100km)
http://www.mudah.my/fuelawards

 

[lantoi]

Just to share my experience
Bought Persona Elegance "B" line, auto 3 months ago. Now 8500km

Changes
1. Change rear speakers to kenwood, front fitted with Audiobank
2. Front foglight with OEM switches - done at PE service centre (workmanship sucks)
3. Rims to 15" KII taiwan, tires to Hankook V8RS 195/55 R15
4. Tinted with Raytech films

Love: cornering, hi speed stability, luggage space, seating position and interior.
Hate: 1.slow pick-up (engine wake-up only after 3500rpm )
2.brakes - slow response and not that confidence (adjust twice at sc done poorly, then outside at least better)
3.unwanted sound such as some metal banging sound when hitting road holes (complain twice already, sc sleeping)
4. Vibration from engine, aircond
5. Headlamp not that bright, will change bulbs

FC, the trip comp registering around 8 to 9 liter / 100 km (ok lah)

Comment: For rm49,499 worth the money spend, still some issue need to settle, hope not much trouble after this

 

[Sheerona]

i suggest u to write an e-mail complaint about the problem u having now to PROTON. Then CC your email to PERODUA, TOYOTA, HONDA, NISSAN, MALAY MAIL, THE STAR, NST, UTUSAN MALAYSIA etc.... with this, i believe your Persona problem will solve fast.if not, they will drag u up & down until ypur car warranty is over. if can, request for a new car. after your problem is solve, sell the car. Then try to look for a 2nd japanese car (if u hv a bigger budget, get a new one)

Wonderful! Thanks for giving me this idea. I'm typing out my long complaint to Proton. Really fed-up with them. GGRRRRRR

 

[ryan1907]

Hi all, I am new here. I just bought a new Persona B-Line (Manual) last month and sent for 1,000km service already. I need some advice for below matter which i found during driving this car :-

1. Pick up very slow. How to improve or what to modified? (without void the warranty)
2. 8.8L/100km is this reasonable? (I am using mobile or esso Ron97)
3. Should i change the original rim to 15" sport rim? (for better FC)

Sorry for my bad english =)

Have a nice day!
Thanks

 

[Veloc]

Hi all, I am new here. I just bought a new Persona B-Line (Manual) last month and sent for 1,000km service already. I need some advice for below matter which i found during driving this car :-

1. Pick up very slow. How to improve or what to modified? (without void the warranty)
2. 8.8L/100km is this reasonable? (I am using mobile or esso Ron97)
3. Should i change the original rim to 15" sport rim? (for better FC)

Sorry for my bad english =)

Have a nice day!
Thanks

Bro... I think 8.8 L per 100 km is reasonable for 1.6 Litre car. Reasonable... but I achieve that figure with an old car with 70% city drive and 30% highway. I guess yours can do a little better. Are you heavy footed? Do you do more city drive than highway? Or try again after the 1000 km service. Maybe the ecu is still adapting to your driving style.

About rims, I think 14" to 15" will not make much difference. There will be a bit of difference though. However, 14" to 16" will have a more obvious effect.

 

[ryan1907]

Bro... I think 8.8 L per 100 km is reasonable for 1.6 Litre car. Reasonable... but I achieve that figure with an old car with 70% city drive and 30% highway. I guess yours can do a little better. Are you heavy footed? Do you do more city drive than highway? Or try again after the 1000 km service. Maybe the ecu is still adapting to your driving style.

About rims, I think 14" to 15" will not make much difference. There will be a bit of difference though. However, 14" to 16" will have a more obvious effect.

Thx for your feedback.
Firstly, I reach that 8.8L per 100km with 80% city and 20%. eerrmm... i am not heavy footed i guess, coz i always swift to higher gear when my rpm hitting 1.5++ below 2. But sometimes will speed to 150 during highway la...will continue check and test. By the way, my previous Wira A/B SE 1.5 (M) also can achieve 8.8L/100km after change 16" to 15" rims...

What effect do you mean for 14" to 16" rim? for better FC?

Recently i found out that there is some weird sound come from the radio area and mid aircon there...Anyone face this problem?

Thanks

 

[Veloc]

Thx for your feedback.
Firstly, I reach that 8.8L per 100km with 80% city and 20%. eerrmm... i am not heavy footed i guess, coz i always swift to higher gear when my rpm hitting 1.5++ below 2. But sometimes will speed to 150 during highway la...will continue check and test. By the way, my previous Wira A/B SE 1.5 (M) also can achieve 8.8L/100km after change 16" to 15" rims...

What effect do you mean for 14" to 16" rim? for better FC?

Recently i found out that there is some weird sound come from the radio area and mid aircon there...Anyone face this problem?

Thanks

LOL Bro!!! Hahaha... I think I know where the prob is... It is not good to shift from 1.5k to 2k rpm you know? That might be the cause for the bad fc. As a general rule of thumb, for best FC, one should shift at 2.5k rpm for slower acceleration and at 3k rpm for moderate acceleration. Shifting at 1.5 - 2k rpm will underpower the car. Thus at a higher gear, you will require more pedal input to achieve the same acceleration. And for most fuel injected cars, when the ECU sense "lugging" (high load and low revs), it will enrich the air-fuel ration to protect the engine.

scenario 1: Shift at 3k rpm if you are accelerating moderately on straight roads especially on highways where you do not need to brake.

scenario 2: Shift at around 2.3- 2.5k rpm when you are driving in the city where you rarely reach 100.

scenario 3: For heavy traffics, for example when you accelerate for 2 - 3 secs then have to brake, then only shift at 2k rpm.

The worst FC is when driving in scenario 2 traffic with scenario 3 driving style.

Remember. Never underpower your car. It increases FC and is even bad for the engine.

 

[ryan1907]

LOL Bro!!! Hahaha... I think I know where the prob is... It is not good to shift from 1.5k to 2k rpm you know? That might be the cause for the bad fc. As a general rule of thumb, for best FC, one should shift at 2.5k rpm for slower acceleration and at 3k rpm for moderate acceleration. Shifting at 1.5 - 2k rpm will underpower the car. Thus at a higher gear, you will require more pedal input to achieve the same acceleration. And for most fuel injected cars, when the ECU sense "lugging" (high load and low revs), it will enrich the air-fuel ration to protect the engine.

scenario 1: Shift at 3k rpm if you are accelerating moderately on straight roads especially on highways where you do not need to brake.

scenario 2: Shift at around 2.3- 2.5k rpm when you are driving in the city where you rarely reach 100.

scenario 3: For heavy traffics, for example when you accelerate for 2 - 3 secs then have to brake, then only shift at 2k rpm.

The worst FC is when driving in scenario 2 traffic with scenario 3 driving style.

Remember. Never underpower your car. It increases FC and is even bad for the engine.

oo...=p...i dont know about that, coz last time heard ppl said if want to better FC then have to drive or swift gear in low rpm...hehe...i am really new to car and those spare parts. Thx for your good advice really learn something new here... Have a nice day ahead!

 

[nelsonyong]

halo
my persona b line just two month
send back sc two time also haven settle :stupid:

problem
1. front suspension got nyet nyet sound ~ they say is body sound..aiii
2. corner time can hear glak glak sound front infront, like suspension want to drop out.

this car over roll is good..only thing is many sound came out .

next week need to send back sc again dun know when only can settle...
sad...

 

[series5401]

yeah.. finished all the 74 treads that u guys posted..
i am thinking on buying a persona elegance..
but, too coward to face many problems..

hope can join u guys talk on persona later..

btw, did read up some post saying dat the feul cover already "patah"..
i thought my mom only like that..
hehe.. maybe normal to everyone..

 

[lkc]

actually persona not bad also,just some minor issue,as for many new persona owners,i think changing exhaust pipe and change to lighter sport rim will help.Yeste i drive my persona up to genting no problem,still got power and can potong car,maybe is also because i am using 15 inch,changed to full set exhaust pipe and using lowered sport spring,for other persona auto user,if you interested to improve pick up/power u can change to 4-2-1,use 2 bullet for centre,2 inch exhaust piping followed by a s-flow muffer,the result is 1st gear u feel slow a bit then when change to gear 2 onwards all the way pick up and top speed is there,as for fc,i felt much better than b4,believe it or not? :p

 

[series5401]

actually persona not bad also,just some minor issue,as for many new persona owners,i think changing exhaust pipe and change to lighter sport rim will help.Yeste i drive my persona up to genting no problem,still got power and can potong car,maybe is also because i am using 15 inch,changed to full set exhaust pipe and using lowered sport spring,for other persona auto user,if you interested to improve pick up/power u can change to 4-2-1,use 2 bullet for centre,2 inch exhaust piping followed by a s-flow muffer,the result is 1st gear u feel slow a bit then when change to gear 2 onwards all the way pick up and top speed is there,as for fc,i felt much better than b4,believe it or not? :p

changing to a lighter rims? i thaught ori persona used 15 inch.. u mean change the brand which is lighter is it? btw, wat do u mean by 1st gear and 2nd gear.. sorry, dunno nothing on auto trans..

 

[lkc]

okay,u see,original persona tyre size is 195-60-15,and the original rim is heavy also,so is good you change to 195-55-15 and change the sport rim to 15 inch also,then you can choose to change sport spring to lowered it or find 2nd hand gen-2 or waja original spring to cover back the gap between the wheel arch and tyre.Then if automatic car,you can actually feel it when is changing gear..what i mean is when u accelerate then when the gear shift to 2nd time onwards you will feel the kick all the way till the end,example for auto car mod -

1. 4-2-1 / 1 bullet / 2 inch piping followed by s-flow muffler = feel the pick up immediately when accelerate till the middle but top speed takes some time to go up and petrol makan a bit.


2.same as above just the diff is add 1 more bullet = pick up when accelerate not as strong as 1 but when the gear shift up to 2nd time onwards u will feel the kick all the way till the end and top speed easy to reach,petrol also will be more save than no 1.

also another diff between 1 and 2 is the noise level,no 1 will likely to be more noisy than no 2,the sound for no 2 is a bit bassy but not noisy when accelerate,only noisy when stop the car.After you changed your rim / exhaust / suspension you can consider air filter / cai / e-throttle controller or atf cooler for better performance,this is the basic 1.hope you understand what i mean :)

 

[series5401]

okay,u see,original persona tyre size is 195-60-15,and the original rim is heavy also,so is good you change to 195-55-15 and change the sport rim to 15 inch also,then you can choose to change sport spring to lowered it or find 2nd hand gen-2 or waja original spring to cover back the gap between the wheel arch and tyre.Then if automatic car,you can actually feel it when is changing gear..what i mean is when u accelerate then when the gear shift to 2nd time onwards you will feel the kick all the way till the end,example for auto car mod -

1. 4-2-1 / 1 bullet / 2 inch piping followed by s-flow muffler = feel the pick up immediately when accelerate till the middle but top speed takes some time to go up and petrol makan a bit.


2.same as above just the diff is add 1 more bullet = pick up when accelerate not as strong as 1 but when the gear shift up to 2nd time onwards u will feel the kick all the way till the end and top speed easy to reach,petrol also will be more save than no 1.

also another diff between 1 and 2 is the noise level,no 1 will likely to be more noisy than no 2,the sound for no 2 is a bit bassy but not noisy when accelerate,only noisy when stop the car.After you changed your rim / exhaust / suspension you can consider air filter / cai / e-throttle controller or atf cooler for better performance,this is the basic 1.hope you understand what i mean :)

yes.. thank you for the information..
wat about, persona with 17 inch light weight rims, no lowered anything, change to hotbits header and use knn drop in filter.. heheh.. is there any pros and cons..

btw, hope to make persona smart only one.. not to pedal till the floor.. ehehe..

 

[lkc]

one of my friend also driving proton persona,using 17 sport rim,he claim is lightweight.After he change the sport rim,we tested on pick up and corner.During the race,pick up,he lose by min 1 car space,then at cornering,his car also not that stable only,and the problem is,the wheel arch is rubbing the tyre,got krak krak sound,so means if you want to change to 17 inch,you have to hit the wheel arch at behind there a bit + since the tyre profile is lower,good luck my friend with the holes and bad road condition in malaysia,now my friend planning to change to adjustable sport suspension to match the look and hope the tyre wont rub the tyre anymore,in my opinion = 17 inch + low profile tyre ( 215/45/17 ) + adjustable suspension = die very fast and not comfortable to sit and drive at all,if you really want,i think use 16 inch with 205/50/16 is ok,b4 i am using this size sport rim and tyre,also i face the same problem with the tyre rubbing wheeel arch when 1 or 2 person sitting behind,also quite irritating and felt heavy too,hehe.

As for hot bits header and k & n filter,this both item for me,i think not necessary to use brand from hot bits and k & n,for the header,you can get it outside much more cheaper if you are on tight budget,the filter also even if you changed to k & n,yes,it give u good performance and save petrol,but other performance filter also will give you the same effect and much more cheaper,the main reason even after you change the air filter,also won't feel much because the main problem is the air sucking place.The air from outside flow in to our air filter is not enough,the bonnet space for the air to go through is too small and i doubt air can travel in from outside,so what i am doing now is,i use other performance brand air filter,but i add a cold air intake hose from the sport light hole straight up and connect to the air filter box,the results is you'll definitely have enough cold air sucked frm outside and give u big improvement,for the air filter + cai i only did it for rm 240,u buy 1 k & n filter also around that price,so which 1 u think more worth it?header i have nothing to say,maybe using hotbits is custom made for that car model while other cheaper 1 outside is universal,but diff not much also,wont give u that i am faster than u feel.the important thing is the exhaust setup,if u do it correctly and find a good tuner,sure u will feel satisfied,hope this info helps u my friend.