What can I do with Satria Neo's Campro Engine?

[forsaken_avatar]

haha... thanx unconsistent fast...

anyhow, i think they use 4g93t terbalik for neo, similar 2 waja... correct meif i'm wrong...

but i do agree with u la. coz i'm also driving a car with campro. the low end torque is horrible. for me, even with the full r3 exhaust system, it still feels a bit sluggish at low rpm (i'm still wondering why campro has that torque dip between 3000-4000rpm). maybe need 2 change 2 street cams... then retard the cam settings for better low end torque/power... where 2 find money ler???

what other mods u've gone for?

 

[ProTiara]

neo look like continental meh?

lil bit for me coz its look like punto+peugeot+bmw (semua sikit-sikit je la)

 

[FVel]

frankly, it'll depend on what u really want..
a car that has the good modern looks, or the old but reliable car.but for me, i although i'll still go with GTi, you also need to consider the terms of warranty and after-sales service. the New Neo, u still have warranty. in the GTi, dont think so..lol

Yes, obvious if you think about but good advice nevertheless.

As SkylineFan said, what do you really want ? Looks ? Performance ? Warranty ?

Few other things to consider....if you decide to go for a Neo because it is new and backed by warranty, but you are unhappy with the Campro and end up modding it, you are likely to void the warranty anyway. These days most warranties are drawn up so strictly, anything but the most basic of mods will void it. I would speculate that in order to get your Campro some much needed grunt you may have to engage with mods that void your warranty or put you on a borderline case of voiding it. Best to check with Proton beforehand what can or cannot be done.

If you want my personal opinion, I would go for a GTi. I always thought the Satrias are good looking cars. A Neo looks better but the Satria models are still very nice. A tastefully done up Satria is an attractive car. Looks are one thing, but just like a lot of things in this world, looks will only get you so far. If you want to drive a car because you enjoy driving, I'll go for performance first and, in this regard, a GTi is preferred.

Age of the car is one consideration, but as I said earlier, if you end up modding you void warranties anyway. If you done your homework and got someone who is trustworthy and qualified to make an assessment for you before you buy, you reduce the likelihood of buying a problematic old car. Besides, you don't see any shortage of consumers rushing to buy those warehoused Iswaras that Proton recently released at promotional prices.

To be honest, I would prefer to get a Putra...with the GTi a close second preference. Likely, I wouldn't even consider a Neo. This is just my personal opinion.

 

[kai6300]

Agreed, seems like u are facing the same dilemma as mine last time,
GTi or Neo? In terms of power, of coz I will go for GTi,
but a 7 years car will coz how many problems? I dont know.

So I have chosen a new car which I will not worry about maintanance problem
for at least 2-3 years.

FYI, the QC for Neo has improved, not up to international standard but it is getting to.

Good luck to you, hope u can get your car soon :)

THanks unconsistent fast,

Now that I know u were facing the same dilemma as me now. Thanks for ur helpful comment, I think I'm standing more on the Neo side instead of GTi due to new car...

 

[kai6300]

neo kan "inspired by lotus"
besides, no japanese influence pun... hehe...

actually kai, it all depends on how deep ur pocket is. if u want a good platform for performance to start with, neo can never beat a gti. campro is relatively new in the automotive scene, wherelse 4g93p has been around for a long time. nevertheless, i can assure u a 7 yr old car will come with probs. the car may be based on japanese tech, but it's still malaysian made... if u're going for it, be prepared for endless headaches caused by spending time n money for maintenance.
but if u're just getting familiar with the modding scene, ure better off starting with a neo. learn to appreciate the simple wonders of tech behind a machine. at least ure headache-free for at least 2-3 yrs! hehe. just keep in mind that performance is not all about how many BHP's u got under the hood. cheers!

Fosaken Avatar,

Thanks for ur awesome helpful information, I've been trying to get a 2nd hand car, not only headache due to problems of the car, but also headache about terms of finance. I'm not that sure of getting a new car need to pay how much, but getting a 2nd hand car is really costly, of paying service charge just for the runner, puspakom, transfering name fees, handy fees, this and that plus downpayment even a 30+K car with just 3K downpayment can end up charging for about 7-8K just for loan approval and everything. Been realy headache about this, that's one of the reason I'm considering of getting a new car instead...

 

[kai6300]

Few other things to consider....if you decide to go for a Neo because it is new and backed by warranty, but you are unhappy with the Campro and end up modding it, you are likely to void the warranty anyway. These days most warranties are drawn up so strictly, anything but the most basic of mods will void it. I would speculate that in order to get your Campro some much needed grunt you may have to engage with mods that void your warranty or put you on a borderline case of voiding it. Best to check with Proton beforehand what can or cannot be done.

If you want my personal opinion, I would go for a GTi. I always thought the Satrias are good looking cars. A Neo looks better but the Satria models are still very nice. A tastefully done up Satria is an attractive car. Looks are one thing, but just like a lot of things in this world, looks will only get you so far. If you want to drive a car because you enjoy driving, I'll go for performance first and, in this regard, a GTi is preferred.

Age of the car is one consideration, but as I said earlier, if you end up modding you void warranties anyway. If you done your homework and got someone who is trustworthy and qualified to make an assessment for you before you buy, you reduce the likelihood of buying a problematic old car. Besides, you don't see any shortage of consumers rushing to buy those warehoused Iswaras that Proton recently released at promotional prices.

To be honest, I would prefer to get a Putra...with the GTi a close second preference. Likely, I wouldn't even consider a Neo. This is just my personal opinion.

Thanks Fvel,

Yeah like what u say is damn true and most are the main factors of considering between a 2nd hand car and a new car. Definitely I wouldn't change any single parts of the car if I purchased it until the warranty is over like what u said. I'm not those "too rich" fellas changing rims, tint, here and there once they got the car. I'm just looking forward to get to know as much as the future of this car as I'm not some pretty rich kid that I can change any car anytime if I don't like it, so probably once I've decided and purchase this car I will not allow any room for regret as for myself, as regreting would be very frustrating for can't do anything with it.

 

[FVel]

hehe......well I'm not rich either but I'm still modding my car, and it is something you should take as much time as possible and get as many opinions as possible before deciding. There's no hurry especially since buying a car and doing it up is often a major expenditure of funds for most folks.

Alos, it wouldn't hurt if you can arrange for test drives and get a hands-on view rather than just listening to 3rd party opinions.

Anyway, good luck

 

[kai6300]

Yeah FVel, and guess what guys... I've just came back from Proton showroom. Overall, I love the car pretty much, just too bad I couldn't test drive as there are no showroom car or test drive car available. Even I jumped into the Neo which is belong to someone (customer). What I would say is nice exterior, nice interior, although interior is nice but in terms of usage is not up my expectations, as I seen there are a few empty spaces that can be use as tray but I don't understand why Proton's designer just covering it up, and the console box is so small. Other than that, from outside it looks quite spacious on inside, but if u really sit inside u would feel why is it so compact. As for my height of 181cm, I need to adjust the sit to the lowest (height), if not my hair will be touching the roof. For my legs to be most comfort (manual transmission), my seat is almost reaching the rear sits. I guess these are the disadvantage of the car, but is won't really kill off my desire for this car still.

GOods of this car, I would say that for highline specs, there are few good things that I wouldn't imagine Proton would have like airbag on passenger side, tracking n recovering alarm system by Captor, remote on key for boot opening, very comfortable yet alike semi bucket seats, and cool looking gear and things like that most seen on Japanese n european cars but not local. Overall I would say a pretty satisfying car, just need to visit other showroom for a test drive asap

Any other comment about this car that members here experienced would like to share? Anything at all, not just performance. Worth buying at the price of 51K 1.6 (M) Highline?

 

[kai6300]

hehe......well I'm not rich either but I'm still modding my car, and it is something you should take as much time as possible and get as many opinions as possible before deciding. There's no hurry especially since buying a car and doing it up is often a major expenditure of funds for most folks.

Alos, it wouldn't hurt if you can arrange for test drives and get a hands-on view rather than just listening to 3rd party opinions.

Anyway, good luck

Thanks FVel,

So u r currently modding ur GTi? Or Putra? Hmm, maybe will ask for ur opinions on modding after my future Neo expires it's warranty. Haven't really been into modding my own car, but have been learning into it through my best mechanical engineer (my brother) One of the good things that my future car would be more than half being taken care by a mechanical engineer. Anyway by the time when my future Neo expires it's warranty, I guess that's the best time when I mod it cause as for now I would say Neo's parts or aftermarket is still not as many or as hot as Myvi's one. Maybe another 1 or 2 years it might be all around the shops.

One thing, I've asked one of the Proton showroom in Subang that they said I'll need to wait for 3 months for the car to arrive. That's kinda long and I might be very impatient of waiting for the damn 3 months, anyone would recommend a solution for faster delivery? Wonder why Proton and Perodua is always having this problem while other manufacturer does not.:hmmmm:

 

[ealt]

Bro...got a friend want to sell her Neo.Black in color with r3 spoiler and diffuser..just continue the payment...reason being, she got married and she bought the car before she marry....pm me if you interested...

 

[kai6300]

Dear Members All,

Wanna share some information with u guys, its true but it might happen or not still being unknown status. Proton's latest technology:

New variable intake geometry system for Campro!
Campro variable intake module production-ready!

I'm not so sure of the whole production and technology, just read it through a website, and there's alot of different comments. Here's the web address, click it and read;

Campro variable intake module production-ready!

Wonder how good it is especially the torque improvement, and most importantly will it be on the market, if yes how soon?

 

[vee kay]

theres no problem or mistaken wif da CAMPRO ENGINE.
da main probs for da NA engine is....
1-BODY WEIGHT OF DA CAR !
2-the total molecul of Air n Fuel Ratio into da intake.
3-the small final gear..the gear that move ya 4.9 big Final Gear.
4-the duration of CAM lift..you should try to grind it to (270+,280+)
5-less respond due to big wheel,16 above not suitable for NA !

try to test drive juz by doing this..

TAKE OUT YA LEFT N BACK SEATS,TOGETHER WIF SPARE TYRE..
CHANGE DA DROP IN AIR FILTER TO THE PERFOMANCE (USED DA DROP IN)..
REBORE / CUSTOM TROTLLE BODY..
CHANGE DA CUSTOM EXTRACTOR (JASMA 4-2-1 B16A PATTERN) + CENTRE BOX + 2 INCH REAR MUFFLER (304 5ZIGEN)..PIPING SIZE 2`2- S FLOW TYPE..
FUEL REG / SAFC / MANAGEMENT..
272 / 288 DEGREE CAMSHAFT..
SURELY U CAN OVERTAKE DA VTEC USER (vtec 1.6 Jela)

 

[kai6300]

theres no problem or mistaken wif da CAMPRO ENGINE.
da main probs for da NA engine is....
1-BODY WEIGHT OF DA CAR !
2-the total molecul of Air n Fuel Ratio into da intake.
3-the small final gear..the gear that move ya 4.9 big Final Gear.
4-the duration of CAM lift..you should try to grind it to (270+,280+)
5-less respond due to big wheel,16 above not suitable for NA !

try to test drive juz by doing this..

TAKE OUT YA LEFT N BACK SEATS,TOGETHER WIF SPARE TYRE..
CHANGE DA DROP IN AIR FILTER TO THE PERFOMANCE (USED DA DROP IN)..
REBORE / CUSTOM TROTLLE BODY..
CHANGE DA CUSTOM EXTRACTOR (JASMA 4-2-1 B16A PATTERN) + CENTRE BOX + 2 INCH REAR MUFFLER (304 5ZIGEN)..PIPING SIZE 2`2- S FLOW TYPE..
FUEL REG / SAFC / MANAGEMENT..
272 / 288 DEGREE CAMSHAFT..
SURELY U CAN OVERTAKE DA VTEC USER (vtec 1.6 Jela)

Thanks vee kay, pretty detail and pro about ur description, will definitely note it down for my future referrence. So like what u said, the whole total weight of Neo is damn heavy?

 

[FVel]

Thanks FVel,

So u r currently modding ur GTi? Or Putra? Hmm, maybe will ask for ur opinions on modding after my future Neo expires it's warranty. Haven't really been into modding my own car, but have been learning into it through my best mechanical engineer (my brother) One of the good things that my future car would be more than half being taken care by a mechanical engineer. Anyway by the time when my future Neo expires it's warranty, I guess that's the best time when I mod it cause as for now I would say Neo's parts or aftermarket is still not as many or as hot as Myvi's one. Maybe another 1 or 2 years it might be all around the shops.

One thing, I've asked one of the Proton showroom in Subang that they said I'll need to wait for 3 months for the car to arrive. That's kinda long and I might be very impatient of waiting for the damn 3 months, anyone would recommend a solution for faster delivery? Wonder why Proton and Perodua is always having this problem while other manufacturer does not.:hmmmm:

Neither. My daily is a 12 year old Iswara. I thought of buying a new car but at the moment, there's really nothing out there that meets my budget. I took at least a year looking over options before making a decision on having Powerzone mod the car for me. The way I see it, I just have Powerzone put in a blueprinted engine and add in all their hp mods, and handling mods and I'll have a practically brand new car that goes and handle better and last a good many years with proper care.

Probably everything will be cheaper if I actually took more effort to DIY, but I'm nowhere that competent, so I pay a little more for some peace of mind and leave it to a qualified tuner to do all the work.

Should be a decent 'Sleeper' when the car is finished. Won't eat any M5s for breakfast, but won't exactly be a pushover either like a stock 1.3 Iswara.

 

[LuKa]

yes.. u can get the neo n upgrade the engine parts.. power zone n R3 woould provide a lot of modifications for u.. but.. NA is expensive to mod to gain High Hp.. but itll be a lot better than a stock neo..

for the neo heavy rev.. u gonna need a open pod Air filter+tuned exhaust.. better change the extractor as well..

 

[ryan_onizuka]

u can try to Rebore it & use oversized high comp piston. Exedy Racing Clutch.
Port & Polish the Engine head. Ligthen fly wheel & crank. U may get higher torque wf it

 

[kai6300]

Thanks Luka & Ryan, for ur helpful info. Anyway, does anyone of u have any recognized or any recommended workshops or accessories shops for tuning and performance that comes with good resonable price?? Not an expensive ones, some really reasonable ones...? Around KL or PJ area?? Thanks...

 

[kai6300]

Why suddenly all people inside here stopped replying already? So sad... Dear all, pls continue to give any, whatever comments u want on Satria Neo 1.6 (M)...?

 

[kai6300]

Dear all,

Anyone from here are the member of SatriaNeoClub member? I would like to know more about the club, and ppl who are not member of the club, anyone would like to share their opinions or comments about these automotive club?
What do u think about these clubs?

 

[popout]

i heard about cam pro bot on turbo from a proton salesman is there any turbo campro out there??

 

[Blitzkreig]

I believe satria neo is a good platform for modification because of its rigid chassis. I think it would respond well to aftermarket suspension kits. As for the power output. I believe that powerzone has an exhaust system that increase the power a bit but more importantly, also smoothen out the torque curve. Thai Persona's have also been launched with the CPS system. According to reports, it has an increase of 15hp which would bring the power output up to about 125hp (on flywheel). A CAI will also help in the throttle response as well. By adding a piggyback ecu and have it properly tuned on a Dyno, you can take full advantage of both the exhaust and the intake mods that have been done.

 

[GT_AUTO]

i heard about cam pro bot on turbo from a proton salesman is there any turbo campro out there??

in this forum,there's a pic of campro turbo posted by skywalker.try n look
for it.:)

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

in this forum,there's a pic of campro turbo posted by skywalker.try n look
for it.:)

sifoo, this one ahh??..

 

[JINEIL2EN]

sifoo, this one ahh??..

wah...sifoo sky oredy mod a Neo monster liao...now oly know that i'm really a 'frog' inside the longkang...way too far left behind liao..


will paid a full attention to learn how to "open/pops up the hood'....damn....

sifoo sky, let me bow u...1 kuk kong, 2 kuk kong, 3 kuk kong....

3 'hiong tao; to sifoo Sky...

 

[karl5511]

Fuyoo...what about the performance...