mods on Accord CF4

[amdfaisal]

aku nak spender awek jepun yg ada stains hahahah...

barang kete la wei. klu kopok gete aku mintok ke brade aja je... mu ni pung.

 

[nksc]

ha ha ha..jgn marah,lawak je..
brg kreta ka...kalo kecik2 bleh la pos..kalo beso x reti pos..takot mahal la..kalo nak mintak usha tgk brg dlu bleh la..

 

[amdfaisal]

aku pun tatau ape nak kirim. saja je cakap. kirim salam je la heheh...

 

[aja]

hahaha..aja, camna kau sure mamat tu takkan main dengan kau. don't be too sure dude. If I am that guy, I will play the 4WD 280bhp torque to leave the Euro-R far behind.

Turbo car have better fuel consumption compare to NA for long-distance travel, provided turbo tak bukak la. Tapi, setakat 3-4 km, I don't think the Evo guy will let you take over and just flared his RM20-30 to leave you behind, hehehe... remember dude, he was driving more than RM200k car (dulu la, sekarang dah boleh dapat around RM170k).

I played my CF4 with M3 before, speed was 230km/hr but the M3 still managed to distant himself from my CF4. believe his speed was more than 270km/hr. North-South highway. blue color. single wilayah plate number. damnn..

Sebab aku dah dekat dgn R&R Tapah tu yg aku selamba jer cucuk evo7 tuh. Tapi tak sangka pulak dia pun masuk R&R!! sekali ngan aku. Sure mamat tuh terkejut siapa yg berani cucuk evo dia. kekekeke

Kalo free run, kalo racing mode both, aku ingat boleh catch-up la, overtake during highpseeding very2 hard la. in reality, for sure 4WD turbo car will leave stock Euro R behind la...susah nakover take..tapi boleh catch-up la until the turbo car keluar asap hitam & give-up. Actually tested with few 4WDT & converted 2WD T before during highspeeding 3/4th gear, memang macam tuh. Last2 most of them give-up disebabkan FC. By that time, i guess they already waste 10%-15% more of their FC, as compared to NA.

Turbo 4WD FC gila kuat. Why?. Stock boost normallt already set at 2500rpm. Turbo car normally has a bad low-end. that y boost has to be set as early as 2500 to move the car. FYI, Evo9 opening boost at 2900rpm, maybe due to the Mivec thing.

Racing with M3 is different issue la, cause 3.2cc Vs. 2.0cc/2.2cc. Dah beza 1000cc/1200cc tuh. Kena tambah 1 lagi engine Myvi 1.0cc or Savvy 1.2c kat atas engine F20B/H22A tuh. Tapi so far masa kat hway melayan E46 328/325 & 525 yg baru nih, no problem la.

 

[nksc]

btul tu aja..aku rasa top speed kreta NA ngan stock turbo lebey kurang je..maklum la cc [email protected] pikap mmg la pawa...huhuh..M3 tu cc besar,so top speed pon bleh pegi byk lg..
aja,euro r sehat??xdak modified apa2 ke lately?apa crita tanah kat ganu??
huhuhu

 

[aja]

btul tu aja..aku rasa top speed kreta NA ngan stock turbo lebey kurang je..maklum la cc [email protected] pikap mmg la pawa...huhuh..M3 tu cc besar,so top speed pon bleh pegi byk lg..
aja,euro r sehat??xdak modified apa2 ke lately?apa crita tanah kat ganu??
huhuhu

kekekeke. Kete macam biasa la. Modify tak der, $$$ tak ada dgn minyak mahal. Pakai stock jer la, boleh belasah tanpa rasa segan2. Kalo dah mod kang, FC satu issue...lepas tuh tak boleh belasah pulak. Kang pecah pulak engine tuh, sebab Honda nih block engine tak tahan sangat. Tak lama lagi ada Myvi Euro R pulak. :shades_smile: :shades_smile:

Anyway, pasal 4WD turbo vs. 2.2 NA, tak banyak beza sangat la powernya, Of course nak overtake imppossible la, but kalo nak follow until redline tuh, insyallah no problem. yang penting tak ada la sampai tertinggal jauh,...maintain distance & slowly catch-up (during high speed). sebab 2.2cc nih mid-top power still ada (sebab cc besor). Kalo 2.2c NA vs 2.0cc turbo drag 400-500m boleh layan lagi, tak macam B16* or lesser cc.(sebab cc kecik). That explained what happened that day masa few CL1 drag... on how few CL1 tapau Wira Vr4 RS mild mod 1-1/2 car length on 300m runaway. Even at th end of 300m track, the powerband still there. I think if play 500m, sure 2.2cc still win hand-up.

Problems 2.2cc ni pulak crank berat. So susah mau cakap lah. Semua ada pro/cons.

Tanah kat Ganu ok. Baru jer pergi sana 3 weeks ago, ambik geran. kekekeke

 

[ehsean]

CL1 vs DC5, who owns? S2000 owns both of them right?

 

[nksc]

CL1 vs. DC5...DC5 la kot menang..DC5 lighter,quicker&better response sbb kecik sket..tp CL1 220 hp..DC5 200hp..huhuhu

S2000 plax 250hp..rear wheel drive..maybe bleh tapau CL1 & DC5..hu hu hu..

 

[aja]

DC5 Vs. S2000..both sure can tapau CL1 lah, sebab CL1 is a good car ofr going pasar, jln2 with family beli buah etc.

khairiz,
Last time u used to drove both SV4 H22A (donno AT or MT) & CF4 DOHC AT. Which one is better?. ..just asking..

 

[aja]

nksc...hah... study kat jepun... kirim beli barang wei... apehal beli db8 angkat la CL7 bai... kumpul duit jual sokkabo, korek snow, jd waiter, jd tukang angkat ke ape ke bai... kau lama lagi ke kat sana? klu lama kumpul duit dulu bai. jgn beli terus. cukup duit beli yg kuat terus

jester... wish kau tu cun gak la... tp klu kau rasa stream cun ape salahnya tukar... wish tu jual la murah2... mana tau aku tambah anak bole la beli dr kau har har har

khairiaz... siries SiR kau sampai 230... dasat. ape kau buat ngan F20B kau? aku try SiR si anis sblm die convert H22A aritu... tidak syiok sgt la nak sampai 180 pun cepat sket je banding SOHC VTEC aku heheh. takleh lawan euro r le... tekan sket tayar dah spin maut... camne aja.. tayar dah botak ke heheh

hehehehe. Tayar aku banyak bunga la...sayang beb!!.

 

[ehsean]

CL1 2.3cc with 220HP....not enough to own DC5? because DC5 is smaller and lighter?

 

[khairiaz]

in reality, for sure 4WD turbo car will leave stock Euro R behind la...susah nakover take..tapi boleh catch-up la until the turbo car keluar asap hitam & give-up. Actually tested with few 4WDT & converted 2WD T before during highspeeding 3/4th gear, memang macam tuh. Last2 most of them give-up disebabkan FC. By that time, i guess they already waste 10%-15% more of their FC, as compared to NA.

Racing with M3 is different issue la, cause 3.2cc Vs. 2.0cc/2.2cc. Dah beza 1000cc/1200cc tuh. Kena tambah 1 lagi engine Myvi 1.0cc or Savvy 1.2c kat atas engine F20B/H22A tuh. Tapi so far masa kat hway melayan E46 328/325 & 525 yg baru nih, no problem la.

I am just referring to Evo, original. not converted, not VR4.

Turbo FC memang kuat and people who bought a RM200k car with a 4WD 280 bhp takkan nak bagi 2.2 220bhp NA potong. eventhough cc less 200cc, torque generation lagi banyak, kuda2 lebih 60 ekor, sekor kuda nak generate bukan mudah beb. I don't think people who have a 4WD 280bhp will ever loss to a Type-R 220bhp NA. Evo9 1450kg vs CL1 1330kg, but, much higher power-to-weight ratio. setakat minyak RM50, tutup mata aje. lagipun, evo baru takkan keluar asap hitam. aku rasa owner evo yang kau test tu anak2 orang kaya yang kereta, ayah dia orang bayar, tu sebabnya minyak berkira, hehehehe....

Race with M3 of course la not compatible. memang kena makan. Tried with 328 before, but kejap aje, difference 800cc.

I raced my Putra 4G93 GSR Turbo back in 1998 in North-South highway against one original CD6 H22A. hardcore vs hardcore. H22A jauh tertinggal ke belakang, sampai ke Johor.

Turbo car has lots advantages. torque especially. kalau race jalan sehala ni, enjin2 NA memang sayur la. but, anyway, the driving/race depends on the driver. Evo driver tu kena hardcore racer la.

cons engine turbo ni, high-revving for long-distance not reliable and not recommended. can damage the engine. Turbo owner give-up due to this reason, not due to high FC.

 

[khairiaz]

Kalo 2.2c NA vs 2.0cc turbo drag 400-500m boleh layan lagi, tak macam B16* or lesser cc.(sebab cc kecik). That explained what happened that day masa few CL1 drag... on how few CL1 tapau Wira Vr4 RS mild mod 1-1/2 car length on 300m runaway. Even at th end of 300m track, the powerband still there. I think if play 500m, sure 2.2cc still win hand-up.

I think your comparison is not fair. original CL1 should race with original Evo 1, or Evo II or Evo III. baru fair. coz race is not only about engine, it's also about the body shell, handling. morever, it's VR4. engine VR4 tu dah berapa usia dia beb. VR4 engine before 1995, Evo1 4G63 1996 onwards. H22A-R year 2000. regardless of heavy-mod or mild-mod, from engineering point of view, the age and technology of the engine also account for the performance, integrity and reliability of the engine.

I have never seen Evo 2.0 turbo loss to a NA car, unless if the NA is a EG with B20B inside or EK with B20B inside. 300m Evo will win. 400m, the EG B20B or EK B20B have high chance to win, kalau jockey bagus la. drag only 300m or 400m.

quarter-mile, 11s for Turbo, 13s mostly for NA. kalau NA dapat cecah 12s pun, dah cukup bagus.

 

[khairiaz]

CL1 vs. DC5...DC5 la kot menang..DC5 lighter,quicker&better response sbb kecik sket..tp CL1 220 hp..DC5 200hp..huhuhu

S2000 plax 250hp..rear wheel drive..maybe bleh tapau CL1 & DC5..hu hu hu..

DC5 boleh menang provided you maintain VTEC opens. NA vs NA, difference 200cc, long-distance, CL1 will win, kalau highway la.

 

[amdfaisal]

DC5 murah ke skrg ni kat jepun encik nksc? yg sblm facelift syiok gak... lampu depan ganaz..

hafkat DC5 kat sini aritu aku tanya RM25k... mak aih... bole buat beli kancil sebijik

 

[aja]

DC5 murah ke skrg ni kat jepun encik nksc? yg sblm facelift syiok gak... lampu depan ganaz..

hafkat DC5 kat sini aritu aku tanya RM25k... mak aih... bole buat beli kancil sebijik

Harga RM25k aku rasa beli tanah lagi baik..biar lah tanah paya ker, tanah kubur ker. kekekekeke

So, minggu nih sapa2 nak TT?. Aku tak kemana2 kot minggu nih.

 

[aja]

I think your comparison is not fair. original CL1 should race with original Evo 1, or Evo II or Evo III. baru fair. coz race is not only about engine, it's also about the body shell, handling. morever, it's VR4. engine VR4 tu dah berapa usia dia beb. VR4 engine before 1995, Evo1 4G63 1996 onwards. H22A-R year 2000. regardless of heavy-mod or mild-mod, from engineering point of view, the age and technology of the engine also account for the performance, integrity and reliability of the engine.

I have never seen Evo 2.0 turbo loss to a NA car, unless if the NA is a EG with B20B inside or EK with B20B inside. 300m Evo will win. 400m, the EG B20B or EK B20B have high chance to win, kalau jockey bagus la. drag only 300m or 400m.

quarter-mile, 11s for Turbo, 13s mostly for NA. kalau NA dapat cecah 12s pun, dah cukup bagus.

Sebab tak fair la tu yg compare non 4WDT vs. 2.2cc NA tuh, cause kalo 2.2cc NA vs 4WDT..memang susah nak menang la..somemore banyak bende nak kena bust kat NA tuh which later become impracticle cost. as we all know, in order to gain 10whp at Turbo 4WD wont't cost that much as compared to 10WHP at NA. Tu yg last2 ramai kaki2 DC5 turbo-charged their ride..lepas tu jual beli Subaru/Evo. hehehehe

Anyway, judging from H22A CD* performance...stock condition, i don't think it's really a fast engine?, i guess. I used to raced with my previous stock lancer Mivec CK (mivec terbalik) also last time at hway, few times. Not that impressive, agree?. Last time 1 eg6 (2 door) H22A also kena tapau with old Prelude B16A at Federal Hway also. hehehe

Maybe u can eloborate more CF4 F20B vs. H22A CD6 performance here.

 

[amdfaisal]

TT minggu ni?? aku xleh la bai... ada family dah kompeni buat... aku mengharap menang plasma tv masa lucky draw... kawan2... doa kan kejayaan ku heheh

 

[dzulx]

aku study japan...aiyyohh..although kalo convert to rm still murah,still x mampu angkat r34 oo...tingin nak bawak balik evo..tp turbo maintainance byk duit terbang..honda gak kot...tp bukan CF4..integra type r db8..4 doors..apapon tgk duit la dlu..kohkohkoh.
member aku sorg bli torneo euro r CL1..tp stock la..sedap naik..

Macam kenal je sapa beli torneo euro r tu :Not_Impressed:

 

[nksc]

DC5 murah ke skrg ni kat jepun encik nksc? yg sblm facelift syiok gak... lampu depan ganaz..

hafkat DC5 kat sini aritu aku tanya RM25k... mak aih... bole buat beli kancil sebijik

DC5 ka..yg 2nd hand dlm rm45k++ bleh dpt kot..

hafkat rm25k ka..mak aih..baik gi beli tanah kat ganu..ha ha ha...bleh mkn kopok leko hari2 di hari tua...