Well no one needs to be building their own engines from zero knowledge. Back then no one knew how to build a good engine. These days good references are everywhere, so much that to build your own engine you only need the resources to hire good brains and hands. Then buy the necessary rights to incorporate certain technology into your engine, on the prototype level atleast. And apparantly it is so with Petronas, since they apparantly hired the help from some Japanese dude and Yamaha?gary said:zeroed, i'm not skeptical at all,
honda, alfa...etc. these are companies who have been building engines for years, and high performances engines at that, not just your run of the mill types. no one comes out of the woodwork, and starts building super engines for mass production that are reliable, and are low cost. remember, NAC will not be building high-cost performance cars. They will most likely be aiming their cars at the bread and butter crowd (this is where all car companies make money). If its possible for a company with no experience with production cars/engines, and a new car company from china to do that, maybe you could tell me how are they going to go about it... plus that most annoying fact, they actually have to make is commercially viable.
somehow, most of you guys here are not taking all these factors into account. mass production is a whole different animal.
"There is a reason why I mention this. See... Petronas learned a lot by its involvement in Formula 1. The engine is there. the expertise is there. The missing part is only the chassis and the body. It is as simple as that. snap!"
SOMEONE please tell me how involvement in F1, and having "some" F1 experience helps you build a commercially, and technologically successful car, engine and transmission package???!?! you guys make it sound like building a toy car man. If building cars are so easy, why are they only so few "full" car manufacturers in the world? The engine is useless in its current form. petronas can't do it themselves. thats why they are looking for a partner, and thats why it will still take them a couple of years of R&D, testing etc, before the engine is ready for use in 2009. even then, thats not a gurantee.
dont just say how easy it is to do, at least come up with some sort of "possible" scenario how it can be done.
Infact, what youre saying really contrasts with Proton's (+Lotus) doing of building their own engines. Why not just get someone else to help? Even Toyota gets help from Yamaha to build their high end engines. Building a mediocre engine from scratch is probably going to cost more than having someone with the knowledge to produce a good one for you.
The mass production issue is a quality control problem all firms have to face after producing prototypes, and they do, and they can. Again, we're talking about big companies here, not a small factory who wants to build their own cars. What makes you think that Petronas and Proton cant overcome mass production problems? (Well actually, Proton alone probably cant, they'll need outside management like Petronas)
As I mentioned before, making it commercially viable is the problem that I thought made Proton not want the E-01. So on that point I agree with you. But I maintain that it could have been possible for Proton/Petronas to build a 200hp hotrod. Reliable or no, Im sure that the engineers arent stupid enough to design a 200hp engine that will break with little usage.
You make it seem so hard to produce cars, disregarding that its the big companies and experts who are doing this.

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