Collision:Why Teana more damaged than Myvi

[TYS1]

I bought a Teana 2.5 bcos a friend had an accident and told me he was 1ft from death. I thot it was a solid car. However, last Sunday, a Myvi rammed into the back( driver side) of my Teana. The Myvi only had a cracked headlight housing. To my horror, half my rear bumper was damaged as was the side panel of my boot and even the rear wheel housing. The cost of the damage to my car was about 20 times the cost of the damage to the Myvi. Of course my faith in my purported premier car is also severely dented. I thot I was paying more for a safe car. How come Myvi which is supposed to be a tincan had so little damage. Or am I stupid enough to buy an expensive tincan? Can anyone advise me?

 

[stupidcar]

I bought a Teana 2.5 bcos a friend had an accident and told me he was 1ft from death. I thot it was a solid car. However, last Sunday, a Myvi rammed into the back( driver side) of my Teana. The Myvi only had a cracked headlight housing. To my horror, half my rear bumper was damaged as was the side panel of my boot and even the rear wheel housing. The cost of the damage to my car was about 20 times the cost of the damage to the Myvi. Of course my faith in my purported premier car is also severely dented. I thot I was paying more for a safe car. How come Myvi which is supposed to be a tincan had so little damage. Or am I stupid enough to buy an expensive tincan? Can anyone advise me?

Hmm, i think,
axle is fragile and also bumper are made of plastic.
Crash test is carried out to the side and the front.
And also crash test designed by manufacturers are to protect passenger in the shell.
If the whole car is rock hard, when you crash, the impact will crush your ribs against your seat belt,
and also if you are not wearing seat belts, you will be flown far far away through the windscreen.

One of the reason might be the angle of both cars.
The part that Myvi crashed into you, might be a hard structure.
So do please the 2 pictures of the cars.

 

[Waiora_ProTuner]

There's some explanation for that..

Mine are only assumption, might not be true in your case but are true in a controlled crash/collison..

cost of repairing are not inversely proportional to the safety of a car..
in modern automobile, there's crumple zone..designed to absorb the impact of a crash..
it extend the 'impact duration'...Teana might have more 'crumple zone' than a myvi...and is a supermini..

Piercing...smaller object will penetrate more when crashed into a bigger object (with same mass)..
in this case (logically), Teana are heavier..so this explanation might not be true in your case...

Angle of attack (not GT Wings)..vertex or edge (bucu) of any object can withstand higher force...
I suspect the Myvi hit your Teana with it's front left vertex (correct word?)..
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Up the speed, and your Teana surely protect you more than the Myvi...
And you will repair more (might not be true)...for sure Teana with pricier spare parts..

edit: drawing warped...get the idea?

 

[6UE5t]

Got pictures of the damages on both cars?

 

[cvkit17]

Lol guys a bigger and more expensive car doesn't mean it is stronger in all sense. Unless you drive a tank. Are you sure that the myvi only has a damaged headlamp? U sure that the myvi chassis is still in original shape? Lets say yes. Now lets move to your teana. Ur bumper and side panels were kapult. Well I can tell u that they are suppose to be like that when you are hit. The chassis is to sustain an impact. Others, the panels, bumpers, etc are impulse absorber. They absorb the force so that it won't reach you. If your teana bumper and side panel are as rigid as a brick, I think you might already have a broken neck.

 

[tazmaniac83]

The design the car to have a crumple zone,so when get banged the car suffer more damage than the driver o passanger inside..correct me if i'm wrong...

 

[Izso]

I bought a Teana 2.5 bcos a friend had an accident and told me he was 1ft from death. I thot it was a solid car. However, last Sunday, a Myvi rammed into the back( driver side) of my Teana. The Myvi only had a cracked headlight housing. To my horror, half my rear bumper was damaged as was the side panel of my boot and even the rear wheel housing. The cost of the damage to my car was about 20 times the cost of the damage to the Myvi. Of course my faith in my purported premier car is also severely dented. I thot I was paying more for a safe car. How come Myvi which is supposed to be a tincan had so little damage. Or am I stupid enough to buy an expensive tincan? Can anyone advise me?

I'd rather be in the 4-star NCAP rated Teana than the 3-star NCAP rated Myvi when it comes to being in a crash.

It crumples better because of safety concerns. The force the accident is not transferred into the cabin therefore protecting the occupants but the energy has to go somewhere so it affects the body of the car.

In the case of the Myvi the force is absorbed by the headlamp and some of the force is probably transferred to the rest of the car. If it didn't crumple then it most likely went into the cabin and transferred to the driver. Ie- the driver probably got whiplash.

If you want a car that doesn't even dent in an accident, go buy yourself an older generation Mercedes. I've personally crashed into a SL65 AMG from the older generation Mercs and the only damage it received was scratched paint and a deployed airbag. My Wira on the other hand had a thrashed radiator and bent hood. Luckily my car was lower than his so I went under him instead of directly at him.

 

[tsfatt]

If I not wrong ..both front and back to absorb the "bang" ... maybe u can try "bang" it harder ..then u will find the car cabin structure more stronger ... just like recently I saw a news from Volvo ..they even plan to make front part ( bonnet area ) ever softer ..so that people would not die after being "banged"

The design the car to have a crumple zone,so when get banged the car suffer more damage than the driver o passanger inside..correct me if i'm wrong...

 

[stupidcar]

I'd rather be in the 4-star NCAP rated Teana than the 3-star NCAP rated Myvi when it comes to being in a crash.

It crumples better because of safety concerns. The force the accident is not transferred into the cabin therefore protecting the occupants but the energy has to go somewhere so it affects the body of the car.

In the case of the Myvi the force is absorbed by the headlamp and some of the force is probably transferred to the rest of the car. If it didn't crumple then it most likely went into the cabin and transferred to the driver. Ie- the driver probably got whiplash.

If you want a car that doesn't even dent in an accident, go buy yourself an older generation Mercedes. I've personally crashed into a SL65 AMG from the older generation Mercs and the only damage it received was scratched paint and a deployed airbag. My Wira on the other hand had a thrashed radiator and bent hood. Luckily my car was lower than his so I went under him instead of directly at him.

Wah, expensive bang.

 

[DanzEterna]

did u claim the other guy's insurance?

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Talking about accident with a Myvi, I had once had an accident with a Myvi and my Saga BLM was on stationary when I came out from a junction.

The myvi then whacked straight to right rear passenger door at the rear. These are the damages I had on my Saga BLM. and Saga BLM
ANCAP is rated 1 star.



http://s860.photobucket.com/user/Supra_1996/media/My%20Proton%20Saga%20Accident%20-%204th%20of%20August%202012/IMG-20120804-00727.jpg.html





These are the damages. Looks bad right? U might wanna see what's the damage on the Myvi. From what I see, might not be
true but common sense wise, my car is on stationary and I was wondering was your car stationary when the myvi rammed in to you?

So, in terms oh physics, I'm actually receiving the impact totally from an incoming force direct to my rear. Which the only
reason I can think of on why my damage was worse than the myvi. Since the front of the car is always mean to protect the drivers,
so I guess there could be possibility the front of a car is always harder.

Myvi Damage.



Just a scratch, not even a dent. So, tell me about it. :hmmmm2:

I think if a head on collision a myvi vs teana, I think the driver of the myvi would be dead instead. So, I won't regret
getting a Teana.

 

[Izso]

The material they use to make the original Myvi bumper is freaking awesome. No matter how you bang the thing, as long as it doesn't crack it can be very easily pushed back into shape with your hands or a heat gun

 

[arturo]

need pictures of the damage done to the teana and myvi.

 

[Izso]

did u claim the other guy's insurance?

I rear ended him. How to claim? Anyway I made a report and he didn't so end up I 3rd party claimed his insurance.

 

[xtremeleo]

new cars with higher ncap ratings are made to protect perdestrian, its a new technology. dat can easily be fixed, contact dat myvi insurance company and send it to his panel, and claim a car for ur daily commute or else the insurance company will pay for ur allowance commute daily, for as long as its going to take for ur repair to be done..

dont worry, ur teana is a very good and safe car

 

[TYS1]

did u claim the other guy's insurance?

No I am a typical chinaman. The other guy was over the speed limit. But I was trying to get from the side of the hiway to the right lane. It was in JB and the hassles I detest. He was very argumentative and I did not have patience for it. If he make a police report, of course I am going to claim his insurance.

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Hmm, i think,
axle is fragile and also bumper are made of plastic.
Crash test is carried out to the side and the front.
And also crash test designed by manufacturers are to protect passenger in the shell.
If the whole car is rock hard, when you crash, the impact will crush your ribs against your seat belt,
and also if you are not wearing seat belts, you will be flown far far away through the windscreen.

One of the reason might be the angle of both cars.
The part that Myvi crashed into you, might be a hard structure.
So do please the 2 pictures of the cars.

Sori for the late response. Not familiar with internet. U may be right bcos his left front headlight crashed into my right back corner. The troubling thing is a few of the electronics components failed since purchase and the front door rubber seals gave way as well. Malaysian nissan is class B. US is class A. The joint between the side panel and the bottom of the boot gave way in the collision though it is supposed to be welded. Is it designed to be so or is it bad quality?

 

[vr2turbo]

Talking about accident with a Myvi, I had once had an accident with a Myvi and my Saga BLM was on stationary when I came out from a junction.

The myvi then whacked straight to right rear passenger door at the rear.

Myvi bumper (soft) whacked your door bottom and body frame (Hard) so Myvi more damage...

 

[TYS1]

There's some explanation for that..

Mine are only assumption, might not be true in your case but are true in a controlled crash/collison..

cost of repairing are not inversely proportional to the safety of a car..
in modern automobile, there's crumple zone..designed to absorb the impact of a crash..
it extend the 'impact duration'...Teana might have more 'crumple zone' than a myvi...and is a supermini..

Piercing...smaller object will penetrate more when crashed into a bigger object (with same mass)..
in this case (logically), Teana are heavier..so this explanation might not be true in your case...

Angle of attack (not GT Wings)..vertex or edge (bucu) of any object can withstand higher force...
I suspect the Myvi hit your Teana with it's front left vertex (correct word?)..
Thanks. I may be a bit suspicious. In the collision, the welded joint between the side panel and the bottom of the boot opened up. Do you think it is designed to be so or is it lousy quality? US Teana is class A. Malaysian Teana is class B. I already had a few electronic components kaput on me but thank goodness it is still under warranty. The front door seals on both sides came detached. Another Teana owner alerted me to the problem. I am not very wise about my car bcos I don't pay a lot of attention.

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Up the speed, and your Teana surely protect you more than the Myvi...
And you will repair more (might not be true)...for sure Teana with pricier spare parts..

edit: drawing warped...get the idea?

Thanks for the advice. Yes, the left headlamp crashed into the rear right light housing. US Teana is class A. Malaysian Teana is class B. The welded joint between the side panel and the bottom of the boot completely opened up in the collision. Do you think it is designed to beso or is it bad quality?

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Got pictures of the damages on both cars?

No, I didn't have any camera or camera handphones with me. Not accident ready.

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new cars with higher ncap ratings are made to protect perdestrian, its a new technology. dat can easily be fixed, contact dat myvi insurance company and send it to his panel, and claim a car for ur daily commute or else the insurance company will pay for ur allowance commute daily, for as long as its going to take for ur repair to be done..

dont worry, ur teana is a very good and safe car

Am a bit doubtful of malaysian Teana - class B. NCAP refer to US Teana ie class A. Hopefully,u r right. The weld between the side panel and bottom of boot actually open up in the collision - not sure designed to be so or shoddy quality. Thanks.

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Sorry not prepared with camera for accident.

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Hopefully, u r right. When I compared the damage, my confidence in my Teana was more dented than the side panel. Malaysian Teana is class B

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Hope it is crumple zone thingy. The weld between the side panel and the bottom of the boot opened up. Malaysian Teana is class B.

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Hopefully u r right. NCAP refer to US Teana, I suppose. Malaysian Teana is class B. NCAP apply?

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Hmm, i think,
axle is fragile and also bumper are made of plastic.
Crash test is carried out to the side and the front.
And also crash test designed by manufacturers are to protect passenger in the shell.
If the whole car is rock hard, when you crash, the impact will crush your ribs against your seat belt,
and also if you are not wearing seat belts, you will be flown far far away through the windscreen.

One of the reason might be the angle of both cars.
The part that Myvi crashed into you, might be a hard structure.
So do please the 2 pictures of the cars.

If I not wrong ..both front and back to absorb the "bang" ... maybe u can try "bang" it harder ..then u will find the car cabin structure more stronger ... just like recently I saw a news from Volvo ..they even plan to make front part ( bonnet area ) ever softer ..so that people would not die after being "banged"

I don't want to bang, just want to get from A to B with the least bang.

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No, I am typical chinaman. With all the hassles, I just want to settle the whole thing and come back and repair at my own expense. Of course, if he had chosen to report, I would have claimed his insurance.

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Thanks. Hope u r right. Malaysian Teana class B. Can't help wondering if it is due to lousy quality.

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When my long hair told a colleague who owns a Myvi, he was very pleased he bought Myvi

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Didn't prepare for an accident.

 

[stupidcar]

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U keep saying Malaysian Teana is Class B.
How sure are you?
And u should at least get a phone with a camera.
It will make your life easier.
So the conclusion is his fault right?
Just claim his insurance.
And between Myvi and Teana,
Teana is definitely safer. I always condemn Perodua cars because they are, at first look, are very fragile to me.
You see, even a big Alza can crash like Roti Canai.
http://www.yuen89.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/perodua-alza-crash.jpg

Myvi side crash. I wouldn't want to be there.

Funny thing is, I tried Googling for Nissan Teana, Maxima(other markets) for crashes,
none came up. Soooo, I guess they are safe enough.

 

[TYS1]

Thanks guys esp stupidcar and xtremeleo for your feedback. I had a bit of quality issues with the materials of car parts. So I am sure whether the damage is due to shoddy manufacturing. That is the main reason I came to this forum - the guys with the necessary interest and experience to give unbiased info are concentrated here. I owned a Fiat Ullysse before this and the material quality were satisfactory although it was supposed to be a lousy car. I was quite happy. US Teana is Class A. Malaysian is Class B. Even the floor of the boot turn out to be a styrofoam board painted black. And I spend a bit of effort checking out before I decided on Teana. So I was a bit unconfident of the safety quality of the car when the damage to the car is so great. The verdict of you guys is almost unanimous that Teana is safe enough. Next time I travel long distance, I will keep a camera in the car just in case. It had been 20 years since I had an accident.