4g13 talks
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My question is, why do you want to modify your Wira 1.3? For power? Just for the fun of it? Or you don't know where to spend your money on a car?
What I can tell you is, keep the engine and everything else stock, maintain it just as it is. From there, you should be able to get a reliable daily driving car if you have sorted out all common problems. Just fill in petrol and drive monthly. Whatever months that you do not need to spend on the car, just save up the money for future use.
When you have saved up enough money after some time, then you can buy another car with more powerful engine or performance and yet you still can keep your Wira 1.3 as a daily driver while keeping the newly acquired car as a weekend car. If you are insisting on modifying your current Wira and yet keeping it as a daily car, long term wise you are just going to keep spending more and more money to it with less convenience or flexibility because you need to use the car as daily but at the same time, you probably need to send it to workshop frequently for modification related works.
What I can tell you is, keep the engine and everything else stock, maintain it just as it is. From there, you should be able to get a reliable daily driving car if you have sorted out all common problems. Just fill in petrol and drive monthly. Whatever months that you do not need to spend on the car, just save up the money for future use.
When you have saved up enough money after some time, then you can buy another car with more powerful engine or performance and yet you still can keep your Wira 1.3 as a daily driver while keeping the newly acquired car as a weekend car. If you are insisting on modifying your current Wira and yet keeping it as a daily car, long term wise you are just going to keep spending more and more money to it with less convenience or flexibility because you need to use the car as daily but at the same time, you probably need to send it to workshop frequently for modification related works.
Bro.. sorry for the late reply.. as i was saying. I mod the car for fun or u can say i wanna try to get the best out of the 4g13 engine.. not on hardcore mod lah.. or some bot or super charge kit..
Anyways.. im goin to change my cam soon.. any suggestion? Prefer cam for city drive.
why you wanna change the cam if it's city driving? Cuz if you change too aggressive then you'll need an ECU to control it.
I doubt you'll be able to find a simple pipercam 260/288 cam. kinda rare these days
Theres one shop quote me 680 for pipecam 272 degree. Wanna hear u guys punya opinion
intake 272 or exhaust? Whats the lift? you need more than just 272.
Basic camshaft installation guide
I've never been a believer of camshafts not because I think they're funny, only because I own an auto car. To make it worse - I'm driving a 3-speed auto. So anything that affects my low end is generally a bad thing for me since my gear ratios are ridiculously tall. What does that mean? It...
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Bro Izso.. just finish reading it before i ask the question bout the cam. Thats why im preferring for mild cam which u dont have to change any of the valve spring. Waiting for the seller response on the intake and exhaust degreeintake 272 or exhaust? Whats the lift? you need more than just 272.
Basic camshaft installation guide
I've never been a believer of camshafts not because I think they're funny, only because I own an auto car. To make it worse - I'm driving a 3-speed auto. So anything that affects my low end is generally a bad thing for me since my gear ratios are ridiculously tall. What does that mean? It...
Read up a bit and see if you get the whole picture.
Been years since last play with cams. Ever since the 4G63T went in, is all about snails.......lol
pipercam brand.. but i just spoke with my pomen.. he said if wanna cam scare after installation need to change the injector and add piggyback somemore to support the cam. Lot of hassle. He advices me just to change cam pulley to adj one.
hmm.. what brand is this. this is quite mild
how much power is the pulley going to give you.... end of the day, im sure theres a target you want to hit, question now is how are you to hit said target
With adjustable pulley and without replacing stock camshaft, you gain a power increase of ZERO
You can only shift the powerband up/down the range but the manufacturer has determined the best setting with the stock pulley. In the end, you gain nothing but lose some money
Then tell me is it worth it to install the cam tat i have shown above. What are the pros and cons after i install the cam
It's not worth to spend on modding on an NA 4G13. Save your money and get a new chassis
Btw, I am not saying this out of spite. I have adjustable cam sprockets on my car. Waste of time and money.
frankly speaking, i think most of us have already said a piece...
i do wonder tho.. what are you expecting from this set of cams. And its a serious question, not trying to be snarky or anything.
frankly speaking from the cams ALONE you wont get much, more 'major' mods usually require supporting upgrades...
and the cam pulleys alone, like parakee mentioned will only 'shift' the powerband, which usually means you end up with garbage low end or no top end....
engines this old with little tech suffer from this kind of issues. you tend to have to make sacrifices in other areas to gain in certain others.more modern engines tend to have tech to 'compensate' in areas where they lack.
sigh..
this is what I was talking about. Study la bro. My 4G15 only had a cam pulley. Didn't use any ECU other than standard ECU. But that's because the overlap or lift is too much for the ecu to balance out. You'll need the piggyback or a standalone to manage the idling. But with a mild cam you don't have too much to worry about. And you don't need to upgrade your injectors la, you're not going full on high cams.
Seriously find another mech/tuner if this is what this guy is saying....
But again - back to my earlier question - why do you need the cam la? It doesn't do much if your engine is this stock. Maybe a small power gain here and there but SOHC just basically means you move the powerband around a little, not so much have massive gains. You want massive go for turbo
hehe not really my place to say this, but i takut he mod and throw lots into the car, then realize, the gains dont really reflect. nanti paranoid xmau mod car liao. This kinda engine imo best left mostly stock.... light mods only....lightened bits here and there are fine (dont significantly buang weight off the flywheel or anything that extreme)
well known fact, the roi for na cars is already so low... and these simple BUT not simple enough engines are not exactly the platforms where the gains are that significant.
**just realized its a carb > efi conversion.... the carb would have been nice here
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