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[ixeo]

Can le, stock 325i on the crank is already 195hp, let's assume 20% transmission lost, 156whp.

The stock M54 intake manifold is super restrictive, swapping to another M52B25 intake manifold will add approx 10hp without tune. Doing other basic IHE mods, stronger ignition spark, spark plugs and lastly flashing the ECU, might be about 200whp, but also depends on what dyno you are running on to see the figure lo. Most importantly is on the road feel.

Buy E46 + mod.. better just buy the E90 right? You get a better chassis and a better transmission.

Remember children about the story of #bmw1jzparking

 

[Mitevo7]

Buy E46 + mod.. better just buy the E90 right? You get a better chassis and a better transmission.

Remember children about the story of #bmw1jzparking

Dudeeee , that's harsh. E90 is of course a better choice but in terms of reliability, E46 tops it stock to stock.

At least my BMW1jzdriving for 1 full year and went through 2 services. Bless my mechanic and the wireman !

 

[lsm1991]

Can le, stock 325i on the crank is already 195hp, let's assume 20% transmission lost, 156whp.

The stock M54 intake manifold is super restrictive, swapping to another M52B25 intake manifold will add approx 10hp without tune. Doing other basic IHE mods, stronger ignition spark, spark plugs and lastly flashing the ECU, might be about 200whp, but also depends on what dyno you are running on to see the figure lo. Most importantly is on the road feel.

after all that + maybe a cam u would probably be near 200whp..... i thought you meant justthe intake + exhaust, literally that, u aint gona make anywhere near 200 at the wheels, i know a guy who has been chasing that 200whp.
In the end i guess hes was going to try go the 'theres no replacement for displacement' 3.0 internals route, but covid hit and i guess this project has to take a step back

 

[ixeo]

Dudeeee , that's harsh. E90 is of course a better choice but in terms of reliability, E46 tops it stock to stock.

At least my BMW1jzdriving for 1 full year and went through 2 services. Bless my mechanic and the wireman !

Anything stock is more reliable. Simple reason is that at that age the car is falling apart. Modding just introduces more variables and more failure points.

“if it’s not broken don’t fix it”.

UNLESS, you are mentally and financially ready to sink a lot of money into it. Even if I am financially able to, I won’t do it, because it’s going to be problems after problems.

stock and repairing it is already enough mental stress. Having to bless mechanics and wireman is hard work. Especially when you find a not so good one, one step forward two steps back.

 

[vr2turbo]

Anything stock is more reliable. Simple reason is that at that age the car is falling apart. Modding just introduces more variables and more failure points.

“if it’s not broken don’t fix it”.

UNLESS, you are mentally and financially ready to sink a lot of money into it. Even if I am financially able to, I won’t do it, because it’s going to be problems after problems.

stock and repairing it is already enough mental stress. Having to bless mechanics and wireman is hard work. Especially when you find a not so good one, one step forward two steps back.

My mechanic say the same thing, Got one time my vacuum hose came off and mt VR was boosting 1 plus bar. Nice power to have, but mechanic mentioned your car now 20 plus years old, even though the engine is built to be turbo, keep at stock 0.6 boost. Boosting pass 1 bar add very high stress to the engine......lol

 

[Izso]

Buy E46 + mod.. better just buy the E90 right? You get a better chassis and a better transmission.

Remember children about the story of #bmw1jzparking

Dude let it go already. It was parked a lot because of owner stupidity in trusting incompetent tuner and parts seller. If I had the same contacts I have today back then I'd be running circles around your land yacht with 460whp from a mainline dyno. But I'd probably crash because I'm a rubbish driver.

And the E36/46 looks soooooooooooooo much better than a E90 any day. Besides, you're talking about tranny from a BMW and comparing it with a JZ + R154 tranny, one is PNP in the BMW vs one that needed to be modified in. Two different situations la.

“if it’s not broken don’t fix it”.

With BMWs that's probably not a good approach to take. If it's due a for a change even in a completely stock car you better change it. Stupid BMWs are whiney little buggers that want everything changed when it's time.

 

[Mitevo7]

after all that + maybe a cam u would probably be near 200whp..... i thought you meant justthe intake + exhaust, literally that, u aint gona make anywhere near 200 at the wheels, i know a guy who has been chasing that 200whp.
In the end i guess hes was going to try go the 'theres no replacement for displacement' 3.0 internals route, but covid hit and i guess this project has to take a step back

With just IHE, no you won't make close to 170whp, you will need comprehensive AFR tuning, especially when you changed out the restrictive intake manifold and exhaust manifold. With these 2 mods, we can see about 10whp without tune, however the power is not optimize at all due to the powerband shifts to high side and won't benefit automatic gearbox. For M54B25 engine, the head can be replaced with B30 engine head and port the intake route for smoother flow. Of course every end of this needs a TUNE, then it will be possible to see 200whp.

 

[Mitevo7]

Dude let it go already. It was parked a lot because of owner stupidity in trusting incompetent tuner and parts seller. If I had the same contacts I have today back then I'd be running circles around your land yacht with 460whp from a mainline dyno. But I'd probably crash because I'm a rubbish driver.

And the E36/46 looks soooooooooooooo much better than a E90 any day. Besides, you're talking about tranny from a BMW and comparing it with a JZ + R154 tranny, one is PNP in the BMW vs one that needed to be modified in. Two different situations la.


With BMWs that's probably not a good approach to take. If it's due a for a change even in a completely stock car you better change it. Stupid BMWs are whiney little buggers that want everything changed when it's time.

Your situation will be alot different if you didn't buy off a modified car, if you start off converting the car on your own, from sourcing engine, people and parts all by yourself, you won't in that mess.

Modern E90 has its charm, especially LCI model with i-Drive, its' more focused than E46 but i prefer the timeless design of 2000's cars, everything is just so right and don't seems to fade with time. Custom make a cluster dash, you will have a top gun style cockpit haha !

 

[Izso]

Your situation will be alot different if you didn't buy off a modified car, if you start off converting the car on your own, from sourcing engine, people and parts all by yourself, you won't in that mess.

Modern E90 has its charm, especially LCI model with i-Drive, its' more focused than E46 but i prefer the timeless design of 2000's cars, everything is just so right and don't seems to fade with time. Custom make a cluster dash, you will have a top gun style cockpit haha !

Actually if I had done the conversion myself the car would've costed me 40k instead of the 26k I paid.

And I would still be driving the car if I hadn't trusted the first tuner + parts guy I met. The parts guy is a major distributor in certain items I used a lot and I bought a lot of parts off him for the car (about 20k worth of stuff) and his tuner was supposedly "the guy he used". Unfortunately both were incompetent and I wasted too much time and money with them. After I sold the car off (as is) to a friend, my friend wanted the car inspected by his mech which I got to know over time and is now great buddies. This mech only had to look at my ex-e36 and pointed out all the issues with the car. He's pretty much sorted out all the problems with the car and my friends wife has been boosting around with 460whp horsepower (Mainline dyno.. figures are about 20-30% less than Dynojet) without issues. I had issues with drivability back then. If I had used this mech earlier and spent my 20k with him, I'd still have the car in my front porch.

 

[Mitevo7]

Actually if I had done the conversion myself the car would've costed me 40k instead of the 26k I paid.

And I would still be driving the car if I hadn't trusted the first tuner + parts guy I met. The parts guy is a major distributor in certain items I used a lot and I bought a lot of parts off him for the car (about 20k worth of stuff) and his tuner was supposedly "the guy he used". Unfortunately both were incompetent and I wasted too much time and money with them. After I sold the car off (as is) to a friend, my friend wanted the car inspected by his mech which I got to know over time and is now great buddies. This mech only had to look at my ex-e36 and pointed out all the issues with the car. He's pretty much sorted out all the problems with the car and my friends wife has been boosting around with 460whp horsepower (Mainline dyno.. figures are about 20-30% less than Dynojet) without issues. I had issues with drivability back then. If I had used this mech earlier and spent my 20k with him, I'd still have the car in my front porch.

Well what's past is past, sometimes some tuners just don't have that fate coincidence with you, i am pretty sure they did well with others but also disappoint some in the process. Am happy to hear the E36 found new life in the hands of new owner. Perhaps you also don't have that fate coincidence with the car, that's why its' giving you so much nightmares. For now, its time to recollect finances, and use 1 or 2 years to find, perhaps an E90 ?

 

[lsm1991]

My mechanic say the same thing, Got one time my vacuum hose came off and mt VR was boosting 1 plus bar. Nice power to have, but mechanic mentioned your car now 20 plus years old, even though the engine is built to be turbo, keep at stock 0.6 boost. Boosting pass 1 bar add very high stress to the engine......lol

welp.... *looks outside* yea... almost 20, 1.3 bar....

 

[Izso]

Well what's past is past, sometimes some tuners just don't have that fate coincidence with you, i am pretty sure they did well with others but also disappoint some in the process. Am happy to hear the E36 found new life in the hands of new owner. Perhaps you also don't have that fate coincidence with the car, that's why its' giving you so much nightmares. For now, its time to recollect finances, and use 1 or 2 years to find, perhaps an E90 ?

I spend a shit ton on that E36. It'll be hella more than 1-2 years man. Probably 5. Hahaha... sob sob... sigh

Anyway I am trying to find means and ways to recollect my cash back.

 

[Mitevo7]

I spend a shit ton on that E36. It'll be hella more than 1-2 years man. Probably 5. Hahaha... sob sob... sigh

Anyway I am trying to find means and ways to recollect my cash back.

Yeah i read that you spent about 26k, which is also the same price i paid to settle all my E46 converted including mods like enable manual mode of auto gear, low temp thermostat, radiator, used high speed fan, front brake system, FICD, and Premium adjustable

 

[Izso]

Yeah i read that you spent about 26k, which is also the same price i paid to settle all my E46 converted including mods like enable manual mode of auto gear, low temp thermostat, radiator, used high speed fan, front brake system, FICD, and Premium adjustable

I erm... sigh... spent more than that. I didn't declare everything. It was more like 40k

 

[DNGFashion]

Actually if I had done the conversion myself the car would've costed me 40k instead of the 26k I paid.

This mech only had to look at my ex-e36 and pointed out all the issues with the car. He's pretty much sorted out all the problems with the car and my friends wife has been boosting around with 460whp horsepower (Mainline dyno.. figures are about 20-30% less than Dynojet) without issues..

Mind sharing who and where about of this mechanic

 

[Mitevo7]

I erm... sigh... spent more than that. I didn't declare everything. It was more like 40k

WTF mate ! That's painful to know ! I think another 20k + is for refurbishing the interior ?

 

[Izso]

Mind sharing who and where about of this mechanic

Yeah sure. These guys located in Pendustrian Puchong - Wai N Lin. Ah Wai is the head mech and Ah Lin his brother is the 2nd guy. The helper and youngest of the lot is Ah Wei. Lots of Ah's.

WTF mate ! That's painful to know ! I think another 20k + is for refurbishing the interior ?

Man - you don't know the half of it. First day I had it stripped inside the carpet was soaking wet. Aircon pipe drain wasn't connected and seeping into the cabin. Smelt like wet dog. Rear seats were never used so the leather had dried up and peeled like scabs. Almost all the wiring was bunched up and left hap-hazard under the carpet.

Best thing was some of the wiring work was so shoddy it didn't even have insulation tape protecting the twist connections. Then I found one direct from battery 4ga power cable straight into the cabin connected to..... nothing. Exposed and had it shorted to ground bye bye something. I had sooooooooo many live wires exposed to the wet carpet man.... it's a miracle it didn't burn down. Then the main fan and aircon fan were connected to ONE relay so you can imagine how melted that relay was. I spent a shit ton fixing up the interior and wiring. Re-doing the wiring and wiring harness was all there. Then grounding was so bad I had to redo that too. Oh and the modification to the fueling system was so scary too, that took a small chunk of my money to fix too. Jeezuz.

Admittedly I spent some cash doing the autofoam treatment to stiffen and quieten down the car so that was one sum of money I probably shouldn't have spent. Then I spent some money on new suspension too. HLSH from a famous brand that I don't want to mention because they had absolutely rubbish aftersales service.

Basically my friend who bought the car just needs to fix up the engine mis-matches and potentially a new standalone because the shitty spitronics ECU was absolutely garbage in managing the car. Made it worse when no one knew how to tune it too, including the distributors own tuner who somehow managed to cause an engine fire..... my engine.

Anyway my story is a long one. I don't want to think about it anymore because it's no longer my car. My friend untung all the new bits and pieces I spent including a new turbo housing, wastegate and shit tons of other things I changed..

 

[vr2turbo]

welp.... *looks outside* yea... almost 20, 1.3 bar....

Evo IX is 9 generation younger leh from Evo O.....hahhahahha

 

[Mitevo7]

Yeah sure. These guys located in Pendustrian Puchong - Wai N Lin. Ah Wai is the head mech and Ah Lin his brother is the 2nd guy. The helper and youngest of the lot is Ah Wei. Lots of Ah's.


Man - you don't know the half of it. First day I had it stripped inside the carpet was soaking wet. Aircon pipe drain wasn't connected and seeping into the cabin. Smelt like wet dog. Rear seats were never used so the leather had dried up and peeled like scabs. Almost all the wiring was bunched up and left hap-hazard under the carpet.

Best thing was some of the wiring work was so shoddy it didn't even have insulation tape protecting the twist connections. Then I found one direct from battery 4ga power cable straight into the cabin connected to..... nothing. Exposed and had it shorted to ground bye bye something. I had sooooooooo many live wires exposed to the wet carpet man.... it's a miracle it didn't burn down. Then the main fan and aircon fan were connected to ONE relay so you can imagine how melted that relay was. I spent a shit ton fixing up the interior and wiring. Re-doing the wiring and wiring harness was all there. Then grounding was so bad I had to redo that too. Oh and the modification to the fueling system was so scary too, that took a small chunk of my money to fix too. Jeezuz.

Admittedly I spent some cash doing the autofoam treatment to stiffen and quieten down the car so that was one sum of money I probably shouldn't have spent. Then I spent some money on new suspension too. HLSH from a famous brand that I don't want to mention because they had absolutely rubbish aftersales service.

Basically my friend who bought the car just needs to fix up the engine mis-matches and potentially a new standalone because the shitty spitronics ECU was absolutely garbage in managing the car. Made it worse when no one knew how to tune it too, including the distributors own tuner who somehow managed to cause an engine fire..... my engine.

Anyway my story is a long one. I don't want to think about it anymore because it's no longer my car. My friend untung all the new bits and pieces I spent including a new turbo housing, wastegate and shit tons of other things I changed..

Lesson to TS and all of us here who wants to keep or buy an old car, all the above might be something we might ran into, especially if we don't know the history of certain cars. With you capability, pretty sure you will be rolling in another fast car (define your fast) very soon. I am stopping all car mods effective Jan 2020, with this pandemic hit us so harrrdd. I think i will be stopping it until next year end, until things start to look abit better. However, what needs to be fixed must be fixed ... Stupid lower arm bushing went out during these times, together with the rear arm bush ... Considering its already 21 years old, i think those bushings consider quite durable since they never been changed before. Should i go with Hardrace bush ?

Thanks,
Ken

 

[Izso]

Lesson to TS and all of us here who wants to keep or buy an old car, all the above might be something we might ran into, especially if we don't know the history of certain cars. With you capability, pretty sure you will be rolling in another fast car (define your fast) very soon. I am stopping all car mods effective Jan 2020, with this pandemic hit us so harrrdd. I think i will be stopping it until next year end, until things start to look abit better. However, what needs to be fixed must be fixed ... Stupid lower arm bushing went out during these times, together with the rear arm bush ... Considering its already 21 years old, i think those bushings consider quite durable since they never been changed before. Should i go with Hardrace bush ?

Thanks,
Ken

Hardrace bushings are great. I know not many brands (available to us) have bushes available for BMWs. Hardrace and Superpro have bits and pieces of bushings for E36 but not everything.