Saga FL 1.3 (M) | Need Standard Modding Advice

[LimauKanker]

eh, the saga FL fuel system is returnless right? i think i remember @TitanRev talking about him modding the thing just to install an adjustable fuel pressure regulator. or maybe i'm wrong.

eh? seriously? welcome to 1960. hahaha, not a fan of campro, the only campro at home is the most problematic one... lol

 

[TitanRev]

Roadmap.
Pure copper grounding cables:
1.I heard welding cables are the best, does bro TitanRev still provide D.I.Y services for these?
Or any clue where on what good brands to get and where to get?
2.Voltage Regulator. I've heard arguments that these can be useless and give no improvement, and some people say they get increased performance. Any ideas?

I don't use any Voltage regulator. The only grounding I have is from the engine block to battery. Nothing more.

Spark Plugs:
1.Good heavy duty spark plugs?
2.If I am planning to do a 1.6 stroker kit upgrade in the future, what are the recommended Spark Plugs for that? I have Iridiums in mind.

Spark plugs even Iridium don't increase your WHP. So it's up to you..Iridium just provide you with longer lifespan. Better to invest to improve your ignition system by using something like a TM Works Ignite Rev. Spark plug, I'm using IT22. 1 grade above the stock heat range. For me the 1.3L is good enough for daily driving. 1.6 you can go if you want..No objection to that. If you ask my honest opinion, I will just keep using the 1.3L Why I say that because a good tuned up 1.3 campro on wheel dyno on DD can achieve around 100whp. Mine is rated at 98whp..with tuning of coz

Steel braided Hoses for the front + better brake pads:
1.Any recommendation for reliable brands? And how much they roughly cost?
2.Rear Brakes will remain drum, any recommendation for better shoes?
3.Is it necessary to change the standard FL rotors to accommodate the better brake pads?

I'm using ProRS brake hose..front one busted 1 time now the front I'm using Arospeed Satria Neo one. As for brakes, I'm on RapidStop 500c using TRW rotors and standard drums and brake shoes. No issue on track, the car is light and not that powerful so you don't need to overdo on the brakes.

Springs:
1. Heavy Duty springs. My friend recommended D2 HD springs, are they reliable?

Don't waste time on sport spring. Just go for coilovers...saves you time and money in a long run...My Ftuned already 4 years+ no leaking *touch wood* from all the abuses on track and daily use.

Short Throw Shifter:
1. Which would be better, D.I.Y the OEM shifter? or getting an aftermarket one, if so what are some reliable models?

Your FL gearbox is different from mine, so you can change to a short shifter.

Fuel Pressure Regulator:
1. Is this necessary as the FL already has this? Will it require an upgrade if going for 1.6 stroker?

Your FL is still a return type fuel system so yeah you can install an adjustable FPR to play a bit with the fuel mapping. Your ECU is also different from mine. While yours can use a piggyback, mine cannot...but these days standalone is the way to go. But please don't ask your tuner to set for the pom pom...antilag or what ever 1 sec engine cool down thingy..that's lame IMO...
FLX on the other hand has a returnless system, so if your car runs lean like mine did and you don't want to use a standalone, have to plumb a return type system to make some adjustment to the fueling.

Fuel Filter:
1. Denso or Bosch?

Anything will do. just make sure it is change periodically

Change Radiator Hoses to Silicone:
1. Probably gonna go for Samco

Don't waste money. Change to a bigger radiator is more worth it. Go for function instead of bling. I'm using a Synergy double layer full alu radiator. It helps a lot with the water temp control.

Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar + Front Strut Bar:
1. I guess only UR, got any others?

UR is the most you can find but there's another brand call 3Max. I'm using their 19mm rear ARB with drop links

Air Filter:
1.OEM air intake with BMC air filter.

I just use a drop in from WORKS did nothing fancy with the intake pipe. Stock air box but smoothen the internal to aid some flow


Thats about it for now. Hope to get some good feedback from you sifu's :D

On other things, change to a 1.6 TB from. This helps with your mid to top end. Get a good set of exhaust system have the exhaust port joint there ported n polished and most importantly wrap your headers from top down pass your oil sump and the drive shaft boot. You can see the oil temp drop and stays below 95c on city driving and your oil temp can sustain longer abuse before getting very hot....without the exhaust wrap your oil temp will easily go above 100c to 110c even on normal driving from the heat of the exhaust. Oil cooler is the way to go but given how crappy or weak the stock oil pump gear is (too much free play)..I just don't want to risk it, the stock oil pump gear can't even supply good oil pressure at times to the 4th cylinder. If you want to install an oil cooler better upgrade the oil pump gear first and to have a better and stable oil pressure, swap your oil sump to a CFE one. It has a much better design on the oil pick up tube where the campro is lacking.
Happy modding and remember...Race, Rosak, Repair...

 

[TitanRev]

You probably have come across this before :

http://www.racenotrice.com/titanrevdiysaga.html

I've driven this car and it's super light, very easy to drive and corners like it's on rails. Personally since you're going Kuala Kelawanging you should focus more on the handling aspect of the FLX.

The article so old yer.....what a rubbish car....Hahahahaha

 

[vr2turbo]

The article so old yer.....what a rubbish car....Hahahahaha

Now got so much more extra stuff modded, right?.....hhahahhaha

 

[LimauKanker]

The article so old yer.....what a rubbish car....Hahahahaha

rubbish car...? taikor really know how to joke la. hahaha

 

[Izso]

The article so old yer.....what a rubbish car....Hahahahaha

Until today it is still the highest read article I've ever written in RNR. So rubbish or not, it's still namba 1!

 

[sanekit]

Until today it is still the highest read article I've ever written in RNR. So rubbish or not, it's still namba 1!

namba 1 fastest saga flx 1.3

 

[vr2turbo]

namba 1 fastest saga flx 1.3

Actually his saga poor thing, owner always look down on it and some more call rubbish......hhahahhahahahhahha

 

[sanekit]

Actually his saga poor thing, owner always look down on it and some more call rubbish......hhahahhahahahhahha

owner tell people it's rubbish saja. but he loves the saga more. haha

 

[vr2turbo]

owner tell people it's rubbish saja. but he loves the saga more. haha

Try to hide all the mods.....hhahahhahahhaha

 

[Lunatic Rider]

Thank you bro Titan and everyone for the feedbacks, I will update on the progress of the car as time goes. :)

 

[Lunatic Rider]

Got a reply from FMP Malaysia.

Looks like I need to wait. :0

Sure is 'Pisang Panas'

 

[vr2turbo]

So in 2019, might have Trestor Advantage brake pads.......

 

[Lunatic Rider]

After much dilemma and indecision finally did the swap.

Proton R3 Rims with Michelin PS3 195/50/15

Before/After:

 

[sanekit]

After much dilemma and indecision finally did the swap.

Proton R3 Rims with Michelin PS3 195/50/15

Before/After:
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no you just need a proper adjustable or lowering springs.
your rear looks lower than the front based on how the tyres tuck into the fenders. is the suspension still ok?

 

[vr2turbo]

no you just need a proper adjustable or lowering springs.
your rear looks lower than the front based on how the tyres tuck into the fenders. is the suspension still ok?

Maybe Optical illusion? FWD have wider front track....

 

[vr2turbo]

After much dilemma and indecision finally did the swap.

Proton R3 Rims with Michelin PS3 195/50/15

Before/After:
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Good choice on tyre size and model....

 

[sanekit]

Maybe Optical illusion? FWD have wider front track....

maybe. but can see the gap behind like a bit lower than the front.

 

[gunnerzz]

maybe. but can see the gap behind like a bit lower than the front.

or...the driver could be the rare breed whom stop at low speed using the handbrake causing the rear to squat down.

 

[Lunatic Rider]

or...the driver could be the rare breed whom stop at low speed using the handbrake causing the rear to squat down.

Looks about the same.

The car is a third hand, but i doubt the previous owners use HB to stop :)