shirotenshi, thanks for the advise, maybe u can pm me their contacts/exact location, thanks.
i read the technical regulations for MSS super 16 and under appendix iii rule 1.5, it says proton with toyota (or other makes) engine is allowed provided they meet the safety regulations - but i guess that's very vague because any scrutineer might say it is not safe etc.
yea, i'm considering entering the MSS super 16 to gain some experience but unfortunately, with limited budget :(
since i got 1 satria ready for the job, i'm just exploring the possibilities. anyody selling civic track car at reasonable price?? hehehee
fobs, are those models you mentioned 4 doors model? (sorry, not familiar with honda chasis models). 4 doors are fine too. i'm just a beginner, so just trying to get some experience before hopefully can get more competitive and upgrade. pm me your contact, thanks.
The shop is Rochi Racing, I'm sure if you follow the SuperSixteen series, they are an old team, no longer racing I think, but more on building racecars for customers. The all female redbull integra I've seen at his place, but dunno the extent of work done by him. I'm suer however, that more than a few MME cars that competed in the 2008 MSS that concluded recently are built by him.
I don't have the exact address, but the shop is around USJ area. He moved to a new location, still around USJ area. If you drive around there and ask the local halfcut shops, they should know the place. I just drive there occasionally and I never bothered to check their new address since they moved a few blocks away from the old place, lol.
I just know how to drive there, but address wise, I have no idea.
The shop is around this area.
General location
Heck, most of their customer don't even know the mailing address either lol, because they usually deal with him directly (old guy, not internet savvy, sms illiterate, etc.)
I'm rather hesistant to give out his contact number, because he's not big on talking to strangers (he gets more random/useless enquirers than you might think). But rather than calling, I'd suggest you head there and look at their work yourself. The foreman/head mech/boss doesn't talk much and to some may be a bit unfriendly, so just head there and talk to his worker, which is more friendlier, although he is rather busy, so may not answer everything as quickly.
An average complete EK9 car outfitted for racing is about 35K and up last I asked (including moderately built engine, if I'm right), but I guess with higher prices for B-series engines, that pricing has probably changed. That price includes a rollcage, lightening (stripping tar and repainting) and various other required items for sanctioned racing. The chassis may start at 3-4K, but with spot/pinch welds, etc. etc.it can easily hit the close to 10K mark when finished, depending on chassis mods (poly bushes, etc) and strengthening equipment (extra welded plate/bars)
A stock B-series may be around 6-7K at the moment for a full halfcut, but a built b16a can be around 15-20K after mods, more than double the amount. Even more, if you factor in other modifications to reduce parasitic losses like an electrical driven waterpump and dry sump system. Output is always around 190whp thereabouts (or less), mostly because most cars made generating more than that amount don't last an entire season, which involves a killer amount of money to run and maintain, but necessary if you want to maintain a good points standing and consistency to attract sponsors. Most now are more conservative to achieve lower maintainance costs. A common super sixteen car can run an entire season without rebuilt usually, though tires are a big expense. For me, the tires would probably be the biggest expense in joining the supersixteen series. Edit: Oh I forgot.. suspension too. Good grade suspension will cost upwards of 10K (new), second hand are available unlike tires, so this is not as big as amount it may initially seem.
If you'd like to ask more, perhaps you can ask Chris from Pentagon Sdn. Bhd. (
www.pentagon.com.my), as he was actively racing in the MSS supersaloon series in 2006, although I think he's semi retired to concentrate more on his business, but you can probably get a better idea of the costs involved in racing the supersixteen series through him. He also raced in the Satria GTi, so you can also ask him about how he did his Satria back in 2004.
But with economy so bad now, I think mostly will be privateers racing in the next MSS supersixteen as less sponsors are willing or able to sponsor. At least, that's how I see it.
I wish I could join in the fun, but family and work responsibilities and living far from sepang will limit my pipe dream :P
Good luck!
