185WHP:ONLY Honda Parts - Whats the winning formula?

[Oderf]

Bro, if ur talking about tep R n b16a head then u r right...they are from the same cast but different internals...however, B18C GSR head is different...simply use mr google to find out more...

here is one ...http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-maintenance/b18c-b16-head-differences-56721/

 

[hattech-v]

i saw one eg with k20a, 2 ek with k20a.. n lots of dc5 with k20a here in kl... ekkekeke

 

[Oderf]

havent seen myself one ler.......sigh....

 

[hattech-v]

no need to see it la fared... just do the conversion for urself... hehe

 

[shiroitenshi]

Okay.. here's a risky setup, not recommended for people who don't own a workshop since something liable to go wrong if you assemble improperly.

B16A head, polished but not ported, B20 internals with honda PCT pistons (yes, the sleeves will be very thin after boring... this is the only part that you can and will screw up, but if done properly, should work like a charm!), R intake and throttle body, and PCT ECU, with fuel regulator, and rev limited to 7K. Forgot if he did block guard or posting for the sleeves. 2.25 piping.

Power... somewhere in the region of 200whp, but some setups can get a bit less than that.. like 187, 185, etc.

 

[V8_nutter]

That setup 200bhp cannot get:regular_smile: With tap RRR intake and ezos wif 2.25 chocking piping. Std cams or tap R b16b cams wif regulator, chip, VAFC fuel pump, most you can get is 190bhp "on engine":regular_smile: But torque is OK larr,,,power is very tight (aka cannot tarik) lorr.

 

[hattech-v]

very hard to get b16a wth 200whp..

 

[shiroitenshi]

That setup 200bhp cannot get:regular_smile: With tap RRR intake and ezos wif 2.25 chocking piping. Std cams or tap R b16b cams wif regulator, chip, VAFC fuel pump, most you can get is 190bhp "on engine":regular_smile: But torque is OK larr,,,power is very tight (aka cannot tarik) lorr.

Yeah.. but still the 185whp target probably can reach I think.

I forgot that cams also changed lah...also from type R.. Don't remember if it was a B16B or a B18C.. but I think the dyno paper did show we got 200whp..

but that was an old setup.. did run it for a year plus as a daily driver without problems...now different already...

another shop tried the same setup, and broke stuff.. ROFL!

As for the sizing of the intakes and piping... we got up to 250whp on type R intakes and 2.25" pipes (that was the max we could ever get but on a heavily modified 2.3L-lah.., and we know now that the intakes and exhaust are the current restriction... since this is just a hobby project, It's only worked on when my mech friend got time)..

That's why want to contact R-engineering... my friend thinks he wants to experiment with quads after I 'cucuk' him a bit... ROFL!

 

[V8_nutter]

Im mentioning bout using b20 crank for the aboved setup still can't get 200 wheel.

 

[V8_nutter]

Yeah.. but still the 185whp target probably can reach I think.

I forgot that cams also changed lah...also from type R.. Don't remember if it was a B16B or a B18C.. but I think the dyno paper did show we got 200whp..

but that was an old setup.. did run it for a year plus as a daily driver without problems...now different already...

another shop tried the same setup, and broke stuff.. ROFL!

As for the sizing of the intakes and piping... we got up to 250whp on type R intakes and 2.25" pipes.. but on a 2.3L-lah..

185hp cann but 200whp wif tap rrr cams surely cannot. Unless he dyno on Speedworks can larr (old dyno). Get what i mean:angel_smile:

 

[shiroitenshi]

185hp cann but 200whp wif tap rrr cams surely cannot. Unless he dyno on Speedworks can larr (old dyno). Get what i mean:angel_smile:

Well.. that's the answer then.. 185whp on totally OEM parts.

Thing is.. workmanship is always an issue here in malaysia.. so might or might not get that 185whp target...

Anyway risky oh! I look at the sleeve also I takut already.. very thin woah..... sleeve better, but that was an experiment on OEM parts, and I think 200whp is the definite limit.. we didn't (dyno it on speedworks dyno)

I forgot the size of the bore.. but I do remember we did get 200whp... and I remember looking at the thin sleeves and thinking.. "This could break!"

But it didn't, and his son is driving it still (albeit with other mods now)

 

[Oderf]

Okay.. here's a risky setup, not recommended for people who don't own a workshop since something liable to go wrong if you assemble improperly.

B16A head, polished but not ported, B20 internals with honda PCT pistons (yes, the sleeves will be very thin after boring... this is the only part that you can and will screw up, but if done properly, should work like a charm!), R intake and throttle body, and PCT ECU, with fuel regulator, and rev limited to 7K. Forgot if he did block guard or posting for the sleeves. 2.25 piping.

Power... somewhere in the region of 200whp, but some setups can get a bit less than that.. like 187, 185, etc.

shiro, i dun really get it....tht b20 internals setup using PCT psitons is in which block ? B16B ? B20 ? if b16 how come the sleeve become thin ? as i know PCT pistons is 81mm only...or maybe have 81.25 or 81.5mm only..... then if b20 block....PCT piston got 84-86mm meh ? :confused_smile:

 

[hattech-v]

i'm also confuse...

 

[J101]

with OEM only, yes its bit hard.

very hard to get b16a wth 200whp..

 

[hattech-v]

anyone here using complete JUN assembly engine?
wonder how much they selling whats in the package?