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[minivan]

How about Rally Cars where regulation says that the cars must be JPJ registered/have road tax/plate number but have roll cage? It's really confusing with our JPJ. Let say if a person wants to drive his rally car for rally from home, suddenly there's a JPJ roadblock on the way I think he must kena saman because of the roll cage...I asked my friend yesterday who prepares rally cars about this issue he said if road car use fullcage just tutup sebelah mata and hope the JPJ don't see your car.

True... but i think rally cars are exceptional. Firstly, they have to be road legal as rallying rules requires them to move from one stage to another on their own without being towed or on a carrier. So thats why they are required to have road tax and plate number. Secondly, on the rollcage issue, they are required to undergo strict inspection by the organisers of the rally event, who have to abide by FIA rules. This will include among others examining whether the rollcage is installed up to spec or not... so, their cages in a way are certified safe...

 

[lightningfield]

How about Rally Cars where regulation says that the cars must be JPJ registered/have road tax/plate number but have roll cage? It's really confusing with our JPJ. Let say if a person wants to drive his rally car for rally from home, suddenly there's a JPJ roadblock on the way I think he must kena saman because of the roll cage...I asked my friend yesterday who prepares rally cars about this issue he said if road car use fullcage just tutup sebelah mata and hope the JPJ don't see your car.

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Anyway he has lubang for 1 or 2 used Mugen bolt-on rollcage for our DC5...anybody interested? He's checking the price and availability from the track cars owner. I don't have the picture bcoz the cage not at his workshop.

Boss..

How much would the Mugen rollcage cost? As far as i'm concerned nothing is cheap from Mugen. How many points and is front cage exits the dashboard or you have to drill holes to make way for it? With this thing on your car sub 2:40 in SIC is achievable. no need hondata. Hahaha....

 

[WAFS]

Hahaha...me 2:40 with the rollcage...cannotlah still need hondata coz my air/fuel rich after decat...my exhaust tip hitam. The design of the front cage is similar to the integra cup few years back...they all using the Mugen bolt-on rollcage. Need to check on the design and will update you.

 

[lightningfield]

the downside of installing rollcage to your street car is that you have to cut/remove rear panels, carpet and drill holes here and there to make way for the 'cage.. unless you're hardore enough, those shouldnt be an issue ..

 

[WAFS]

Yup...you're right. About the design hopefully don't have to cut the dashboard and hopefully some of the parts can be removed to make it half cage. Must drill the floor though.
But Mugen roll cage is rare if not install at car can keep it in the store maybe usefull in the future who knows...or maybe just keep until someone wants to trade with hondata...hehehe.

 

[SnooPDoGGY]

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[prasath_5338]

Yup...you're right. About the design hopefully don't have to cut the dashboard and hopefully some of the parts can be removed to make it half cage. Must drill the floor though.
But Mugen roll cage is rare if not install at car can keep it in the store maybe usefull in the future who knows...or maybe just keep until someone wants to trade with hondata...hehehe.

About the Mugen Rollcage design, i dont think we need to cut the dashboard to install. There was one time i bumped into a Thai-Mugen Spec DC5 on the net fitted with rollcage. I will try googling and post up the pics.

 

[lightningfield]

About the Mugen Rollcage design, i dont think we need to cut the dashboard to install. There was one time i bumped into a Thai-Mugen Spec DC5 on the net fitted with rollcage. I will try googling and post up the pics.

that's like the stage 2 mugen spec DC5. very handsome.

 

[jaymie]

2:40 can be achieved without hondata and without the rollcage. Change the gear ratio and final drive, aftermarket ecu such as mugen etc, good suspension plus good suspension setup, adequate camber degree, better tyres. I think la.... what do u guys think...never tried my dc5 on track..so..its just an instinct... what say u guys?

 

[prasath_5338]

2:40 can be achieved without hondata and without the rollcage. Change the gear ratio and final drive, aftermarket ecu such as mugen etc, good suspension plus good suspension setup, adequate camber degree, better tyres. I think la.... what do u guys think...never tried my dc5 on track..so..its just an instinct... what say u guys?

Titanium balls not to forget!

 

[WAFS]

If cannot titanium balls aluminium balls also can

 

[prasath_5338]

If cannot titanium balls aluminium balls also can

whatever u say MASTER

 

[WAFS]

Hahaha...

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2:40 can be achieved without hondata and without the rollcage. Change the gear ratio and final drive, aftermarket ecu such as mugen etc, good suspension plus good suspension setup, adequate camber degree, better tyres. I think la.... what do u guys think...never tried my dc5 on track..so..its just an instinct... what say u guys?

Yes, it's achievable with the mods above.

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Actually, minimum requirement for dc5 to get 2:40 @sic :-

Your mods/setup should make your car/you: able to get 185km/h at front/back straight, trail brake turn 2,4,9, late braking + trail brake turn 1 &15 , vtec on from turn 5-6 (4th gear), vtec on at corner exit turn 4 (3rd gear), vtec on at corner exit turn 9 (2nd gear), 4th gear after turn 11 continue 4th gear turn 12-13, vtec on at corner exit turn 14 (3rd gear).
Use full width of the track + correct racing line is a must. You'll be smiling upon returning to pit. Hope this helps.

 

[lightningfield]

Actually, minimum requirement for dc5 to get 2:40 @sic :-

Your mods/setup should make your car/you: able to get 185km/h at front/back straight, trail brake turn 2,4,9, late braking + trail brake turn 1 &15 , vtec on from turn 5-6 (4th gear), vtec on at corner exit turn 4 (3rd gear), vtec on at corner exit turn 9 (2nd gear), 4th gear after turn 11 continue 4th gear turn 12-13, vtec on at corner exit turn 14 (3rd gear).
Use full width of the track + correct racing line is a must. You'll be smiling upon returning to pit. Hope this helps.

Sifu Farouk has spilled out the beans...Print this and stick it on your dashboard guys!

 

[jaymie]

Hahaha...

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Yes, it's achievable with the mods above.

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Actually, minimum requirement for dc5 to get 2:40 @sic :-

Your mods/setup should make your car/you: able to get 185km/h at front/back straight, trail brake turn 2,4,9, late braking + trail brake turn 1 &15 , vtec on from turn 5-6 (4th gear), vtec on at corner exit turn 4 (3rd gear), vtec on at corner exit turn 9 (2nd gear), 4th gear after turn 11 continue 4th gear turn 12-13, vtec on at corner exit turn 14 (3rd gear).
Use full width of the track + correct racing line is a must. You'll be smiling upon returning to pit. Hope this helps.

what about turn 7 and 8?

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one more thing...trail braking is not easy...

 

[minivan]

:top:

Hahaha...
Actually, minimum requirement for dc5 to get 2:40 @sic :-

Your mods/setup should make your car/you: able to get 185km/h at front/back straight, trail brake turn 2,4,9, late braking + trail brake turn 1 &15 , vtec on from turn 5-6 (4th gear), vtec on at corner exit turn 4 (3rd gear), vtec on at corner exit turn 9 (2nd gear), 4th gear after turn 11 continue 4th gear turn 12-13, vtec on at corner exit turn 14 (3rd gear).
Use full width of the track + correct racing line is a must. You'll be smiling upon returning to pit. Hope this helps.

Superb recipe for fast times at SIC!! :top: Totally agree!! Haven't manage to do all of it, but totally agree ... turn 12-13 is the bestest corner :top:

vtec on from turn 5-6 (4th gear)

But this one arr... you gotta be doing like 145km/h++ maybe here. With car understeering here, it really requires titanium balls...

Turn 7-8 is taken in 3rd to get good exit speed out...

VTEC point is ideal at berapa bro? 5200 maybe?? mine at stock 6000 is really frustrating sometimes

 

[lightningfield]

T12-13 if taken correctly on 4th the car will slide to the right (kinda scary!) but it'll be on the line again on u throttle on. Juz like T2 at Johor circuit...

T7-8 can go on 4th if you have balls like Zane Loo.. Hahaha.

Lan, need to lower down the vtec point to 5200-5500 baru syok to execute corner

Trail braking for an experienced MME driver like Farouk should be easy peasy.. Haven't really tried braking in corners anywhere yet..

 

[minivan]

Lan, need to lower down the vtec point to 5200-5500 baru syok to execute corner

Maybe next time bro, with something a little bit newer :top:

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[WAFS]

:top:

Superb recipe for fast times at SIC!! :top: Totally agree!! Haven't manage to do all of it, but totally agree ... turn 12-13 is the bestest corner :top:



But this one arr... you gotta be doing like 145km/h++ maybe here. With car understeering here, it really requires titanium balls...

Turn 7-8 is taken in 3rd to get good exit speed out...

VTEC point is ideal at berapa bro? 5200 maybe?? mine at stock 6000 is really frustrating sometimes

Totally agree lan, you must get a good suspension set-up to reduce understeer. Hey, my car doesn't understeer much turn 12-13. Oversteer adalah so I just floor here
At turn 9 and 4 where i have to wait for vtec, my rpm 5600-5800. Memang frustrating..everytime here i wish my vtec point is lower

T12-13 if taken correctly on 4th the car will slide to the right (kinda scary!) but it'll be on the line again on u throttle on. Juz like T2 at Johor circuit...

T7-8 can go on 4th if you have balls like Zane Loo.. Hahaha.

Lan, need to lower down the vtec point to 5200-5500 baru syok to execute corner

Trail braking for an experienced MME driver like Farouk should be easy peasy.. Haven't really tried braking in corners anywhere yet..

Yup you're right meor, like T2 johor circuit. My car with stock ecu 6k vtec very frustrating at 9,4, 6. Turn nine have to wait 2s and turn four 1s. Turn 6 i must really have a good line otherwise oversteer at apex and must countersteer so i lose time 1s here. Imagine if i can save 4s total

Trail brake needs practise but not if your car understeer a lot. It needs slight oversteery set-up. You can try turn 2 & 4 for a start.
I develop a module last time to train proton test driver...trail braking one of it, i still got it in my cd. I'll bring it next tt.

what about turn 7 and 8?

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one more thing...trail braking is not easy...

Turn 7-8 i consider it special..its called double apex...there are a lot of variations to the corner entry and gear. Good overtaking corner if you master it. For light mod cars 3rd gear is the best but if you have more power, good front roll and grip then 4th gear possible. This is fast and good..1s saving here. Otherwise you struggle at corner exit.

Yup...Trail brake difficult and needs practise...set the car to slight oversteer and easier to trail brake.

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Maybe next time bro, with something a little bit newer :top:

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Alamak...sayangnya

 

[hasukyo]

t12-t13...is it the s corner downhill? fobia la that corner...spun twice, one my fren drove, and one time i drove...both also nearly hit the sidewall...always got oversteer there..any tips?

lan, where u did the carbon heatshield ar?