Upgrading from 4g93p to rvr rs turbo

[kumar22mostwanted]

hi evryone,
i have a proton putra that is completely na right now and i am wondering whether i shld change to rvr engine.
i have neva done this kind of halfcut stuff bfre nor do i have any previous knowledge on this topic
so to all u who have done this kind of thing i would very much appreciate ur feedback on this topic
the kind of things i am looking to know is such as:
a)is rvr rs turbo good(i am getting is coz i want an auto car plain and simple)
b)what are the things to look out for when purchasing and installing half cut
c)do any of the sifu here in zth know anyone who sells good halfcuts at reasonable prices as i am a student and i have a budget constraint
once again any feedback would be very much appreciated
thk u :wavey:

 

[[H] [K] [S]]

Why rvr?! Should go for 4g93T or get a 4g63T with a 4g67 block for endorsement purposes.

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

hello sifu hks
for me the main thing is the overall cost i guess
could roughly tell me the full cost of doin either one of the two options u stated above
and also sorry to ask 2 much but how much do u think i can get for selling my 4g93p auto complete halfcut

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is the anyone else who can help me with this
i am reallly noob at all this stuff
ive been trying to read up stuff on this but cant get much
i think the best info i can get will be cmin from all u sifu sifu here in zth
so if u could please help me i would really really appreciate it

 

[[H] [K] [S]]

Firstly, I am no sifu.

Price wise.... roughly round rm8k - rm9k for 4g93T, 6-7k for 4g63T for halfcut alone. Advise you to search at the marketplace, mudah.com or at chop shops itself for best pricing & pls ask your mech for the installation fee as well.

4g93p - not more than rm3k i believe....

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

hahah well i regard everyone in zth to be sifu coz i know close to zero about cars so sorry bout ttht bro
well u see one of my main priorties is to get an auto transmission so the halfcut guys ive called so far all say rvr is the best i mean if i wanted auto with a fixed budget
plus isnt the rvr 4g63t as well
would appreciate ur reply to this hks

 

[[H] [K] [S]]

Indeed RVR is a 4g63T series. However it's a detuned evo engine with a smaller TD04HL turbine instead of TD05, with a top mount intercooler & a different ECU.

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

im sorry if this may seem like a stupid question but what is meant by detuned??
i understand the other differences u have stated but is tht all the differences are there any other diff between and evo and an rvr??
and as for the intercooler problem the one i have checked out the guy has changed the intercooler to a big front mount one so i guess thts better rite
and hks one final thing the evo is there anyway i can transplant the engine while getting an auto transmission maybe by using a gearbox from another engine the rvr perhaps because the gearbox has to be able to cope with the power of an evo engine rite
pls correct all the things that i have said wrong like i said i know very very litle oni hope to learn from u all

 

[[H] [K] [S]]

Detuned - downgraded
Only E7 comes with automatic transmission

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

ohhh e7 meaning evo 7 rite pardon my noobness
i was also considering vr4 rs halfcut does that come in an auto variant???

 

[[H] [K] [S]]

Vr4? I believe not. Gsr - yes. However you have to consider how you going to endorse your engine if it's a 2.0 liter. It would be more convenient if you convert it to a 1.8 gsr.

 

[casper23]

hks bos....
aledi sellin your putra or not..

 

[[H] [K] [S]]

hks bos....
aledi sellin your putra or not..

I thought you bought a putra already?! changed to E3 front set rite?!

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

hey hks i didnt know u have a putra as well
thts cool man wut engine u packing in ur monster
as far as ive searched ive seen tht vr4 cmes in auto but vr4 rs doesnt
correct me if im wrong
well so u dont tink i shld get a rvr ???
i dont wanna get gsr coz its potential is limited when i get more dough hopefull i can mod somemore
but for now all i can afford is halfcut
so i must depend on the power of the stock halfcut
plus to endorse from 1.8 to 2.0 shldnt be th hard rite

 

[[H] [K] [S]]

plus to endorse from 1.8 to 2.0 shldnt be th hard rite

It's quite a hassle actually. By law, you can't convert 1.8 to 2.0. Forgot since what year... I did mentioned above more or less of the convertion process to a 2.0.

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

ahh well the law always suks and no matter whther its legal or not jpj will always cause problem man
im sure u know what i mean
well mr hks im sure u will be glad to know tht ive decided to go for an evo halfcut and use the evo 7.5 gta gearbox (very difficult to find) according to some guys ive talked to
so my project will take a while
which evo engine would u recommend me to buy im looking to run the car stock so which one do u tink would bring out the most horsepower in stock conditions and how much do u tink it will cost

 

[sebastien]

y wanna use evo 7.5 auto gearbox wif evo halfcut?
get a rvr which is auto ady then can use evo stuff ma,.....
or straight get an evo halfcut n rvr auto gearbox lor...

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n btw evo 123 can match evo 7.5 gb meh?

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

y wanna use evo 7.5 auto gearbox wif evo halfcut?
get a rvr which is auto ady then can use evo stuff ma,.....
or straight get an evo halfcut n rvr auto gearbox lor...

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n btw evo 123 can match evo 7.5 gb meh?

hey sebastien well the halfcut guy told me that rvr gearbox might not be able to cope wit the evo7 halfcut he has
thts why he recommend the evo 7.5 gearbox to match the power of the evo 7 engine
hey and u said i can get a rvr halfcut then use evo stuff
but i thought there is a lot of stuff to change if i wanna get the performance of an evo engine using a rvr engine
is it true the must change the engine head aso
i know the block is the same rite 4g63t
forgive me if i say any rubbish coz i am super noob

 

[[H] [K] [S]]

hey sebastien well the halfcut guy told me that rvr gearbox might not be able to cope wit the evo7 halfcut he has
thts why he recommend the evo 7.5 gearbox to match the power of the evo 7 engine
hey and u said i can get a rvr halfcut then use evo stuff
but i thought there is a lot of stuff to change if i wanna get the performance of an evo engine using a rvr engine
is it true the must change the engine head aso
i know the block is the same rite 4g63t
forgive me if i say any rubbish coz i am super noob

As far as I know, putra, wira, perdana & satria can only be fitted with GSR, VR4, RVR, E1, E2 & E3 engine. If waja, gen 2, than only can fit E4 onwards. This is due to the possitioning of the engine itself, it's the other way around or most people calls it "engine terbalik". I don't think it could be transplanted in a putra.

IMHO get a GSR. No issue in endorsing plus the engine itself is more durable compared to others. Also you're planning to use automatic transmission, therefore major modification is not necessary.

 

[zac]

Depends on your pocket, e4-e10 also can be transplanted to your engine bay...
Before you paint up your dream i need to ask, have you confirmed you can get your 2.0 engine endorsed or you plan to use it illegally?

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And if this is not your concern then please transplant complete E7 GT-A into your car... no need to think of combine this engine and that gb...

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

well bro my pocket not so tight not so lose depend on the deal i get lah
how much do you tink it will run me to get e7 gta halfcut i dont see many around maybe u can recommend me some halfcut shops

 

[zac]

Our area is different but believe you shall have better deal over KL, if you really can't source a half-cut who has E7 GT-A halfcut then you can ask your mech settle for you mah, afterall he's the one will do the transplant job for you right? thats the little effort he should pay.

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

me no mech aso all this while neva even took interest wit cars coz i was driving my moms wira last time 1.5:rolleyes: so lazylah to mod plus if i do anytin to it my mom will chop my balls of lol
so yea then i had some dough so i decided to purchase a putra but i went for auto coz everyday i drive bak get stuck in traffic jam dun wanna break the steering wheel coz so tension so i got auto lah
but now im feeling like the putra not enough power for me so i thought its time!!! for evo
well thats my life story so far so now just got my putra and i wanna do smth with it but cannot do shit coz i dont know any mech or any car sifu
thts why i humbly ask if u can intro me any guys u know in kl who can become my car mod advisor/mechanic

 

[8229]

bro kumar,

1st of all, endorsement to 2.0 is not legal for all wira satria putra, only perdana body can be 2.0 not even powerfull cable can done it right now. if u dont care about it and in certain amount of budget just go for RVR halfcut. As i know most of the spec is as equal as evo2, only its auto tranny, so most of the part is compatible to install to your chassis, only the upper mount small inter-cooler that need to transfer to front mount. Then its can run inside your hood already. Its will be a lot of hassle if you get evo3 halfcut then as you said u want to be its auto, then u also need rvr gearbox also to fit to its.... a lot of hassle..
If u really dont care about budget, get evo 7.5 gta, malaysia boleh marr... any engine can fit to ur putra, if not mistaken its cost around 30k++ for 7.5 gta halfcut.... correct me if im wrong...

 

[zac]

Bro Kumar,

Although you never go into modding before but sure you sent your car for servicing right? Engine transplant itself is quite a straightforward job that most of the shop can carry out, sometimes just take the initiative to walk in and check pricing, compare compare, also look at the quality of their work, their client's car, their working environment... eventually you will find a ideal one... Don't just go for the cheapest one and don't those who offer highest will have superb quality...

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

holy shitt evo 7.5 gta halfcut is 30k
dammmm is it even that powerful compared to the other evos??
yeah bro zac the problem is always my mom service the car i used to drive coz it was hers and she take to proton and service and i seriously doubt they will be selling halfcuts lol
yeah so i just purchased my putra and wanna do smth wit it so yeah u get the point
and maybe u can recommend me some good mechs who can help me with my vision maybe even urs :rolleyes:
mechs also sell halfcuts rite???

 

[DanzEterna]

just save up your $$$ & get an evo7.5GTA,
habis cerita.

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

bro evo 7.5 gta 30k lah halcut then i have to sell organs to pay for it
anyways how many hp ah evo 7.5 gta

 

[DanzEterna]

im not telling u to get the halfcut la, go get the car.
bout 270hp.

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

HAHA ok my bad i misuenderstood
and i hope u dont mind me asking how much would the car cost
i know i cant afford it anywhere in the near future but just for knowledge sakes :rolleyes:

 

[DanzEterna]

let say 02/05 model bout rm110k+-
dont worry bro....maybe u will get it in the near future.