Turbo on a B16A Auto - Good Idea?

[HanafyEG]

yup...

 

[EG8]

Thank you to everyone for the feedback.
I brought this matter up with some friends of mine who are really into the mod scene and I have also screened through many many websites and forum.
The bottom line I hear is.... change to manual !!!]

Hahaha!!! I have considered every solution to increase my hp (crv-tec, turbo, performance cam, etc) but i'm told that it's not worth it cause most of the power gets trapped by the slush box !!!

My question is... Does a manual gearbox really make that big a difference?

Definitely yes.Autobox is crap, if im not mistaken b16a autobox can only held max 155ps, more than that it shall shorten your gearbox lifeshelf, if you wanna go for performance, go for manual.
p/s: i myself driving an autobox

 

[B16Alaric]

Hahaha... point taken !
Does anyone know how much it costs to purchase and install a manual transmission? I'll have to get a compatible tranny yes? Which tran will that be?

Furthermore i understand that my current auto b16a only makes 155hp, while a similar manual one makes 170hp. What accounts for this disparity in the power ? And more importantly, how can i overcome this difference, short of dropping in a new engine?

Tell me tell me ......
Txs

 

[jingut_04]

ya...find another emgine with manual tranny...then sell me ur
engine cheap2 la :p

 

[B16Alaric]

Wah !!! Even though my auto b16 dissappoints me at times, i still love her very much. If i swap her out... i'll still keep her around for sentimental value.... or until some water fish comes and buy it for a high price...

 

[ARTA]

Bro... gearbox dont give hp...

 

[ARTA]

Definitely yes.Autobox is crap, if im not mistaken b16a autobox can only held max 155ps, more than that it shall shorten your gearbox lifeshelf, if you wanna go for performance, go for manual.
p/s: i myself driving an autobox

Wat Bro EG8 mean is the auto gb can withstand up to 155ps, not produce hp...

Cheers :)

 

[c1kai]

Wat Bro EG8 mean is the auto gb can withstand up to 155ps, not produce hp...

Cheers :)

sorry to interrupt in between the conv. but do any-1 here ever encountered distributor problem koz mine went kaput 2 times in a row... btw my ride is b16a with auto tranny.. any idea to recond the distributor as the new taiwan made had cost me about RM350...

 

[B16Alaric]

From what i understand, the engine itself is slightly different. I don't have the exact specifications but there are differences on the spec sheets. For example, the automatic B16a redlines at 7600 rpm with 155 hp while the manual one redlines at 8200 at 170 hp. Even the torque peaks at at different rpm. Is there any real difference in the engine (less agressive cams for example) or is it detuned to match the auto gearbox?

 

[ARTA]

Bro B16Alaric: Ecu, cam ,valve springs, and gb difference....and all tat makes a big difference

Bro c1kai: The distributor damage might be caused from electrical problem. Some distributor suffers burnt bearing resulting from high rev. (too old for some recond parts..cant stand the rev)
Like the case i experienced before, i revved my engine till 8K while blasting my normal audio setup with aircond headlamps and foglights on (i had 4 fog lights...last time my car quite rice...hahaha) With all the electrical component as a burden while revving , the distributor cant take it.. The inner part where it always suffers damage of a Big V's distributor can be replaced while small V's cant. Small V's distributor, u haf to DIY or ask your reliable mech to repair it for u...as for mine...i replaced the whole distributor.

 

[EG8]

Bro B16Alaric: Ecu, cam ,valve springs, and gb difference....and all tat makes a big difference

Bro c1kai: The distributor damage might be caused from electrical problem. Some distributor suffers burnt bearing resulting from high rev. (too old for some recond parts..cant stand the rev)
Like the case i experienced before, i revved my engine till 8K while blasting my normal audio setup with aircond headlamps and foglights on (i had 4 fog lights...last time my car quite rice...hahaha) With all the electrical component as a burden while revving , the distributor cant take it.. The inner part where it always suffers damage of a Big V's distributor can be replaced while small V's cant. Small V's distributor, u haf to DIY or ask your reliable mech to repair it for u...as for mine...i replaced the whole distributor.

bro ARTA

did u upgrade ur alternator as well as your battery system then?

 

[ARTA]

Bro EG8: Nope...just remember to shut off other stuff (as little as possible for example foglights ...not needed) when i wan to rev my car.hehehe. Just dropped in a RAIZIN volt stabilizer + super ground lately :)

 

[aboo]

Bro B16Alaric: Ecu, cam ,valve springs, and gb difference....and all tat makes a big difference

Arta, does it mean that B16A (A) has diff ecu, cam ,valve springs compared to B16A (M)? Do u think it is also the same for other cars?

 

[ARTA]

Bro B16Alaric: Ecu, cam ,valve springs, and gb difference....and all tat makes a big difference

Arta, does it mean that B16A (A) has diff ecu, cam ,valve springs compared to B16A (M)? Do u think it is also the same for other cars?

Yes, B16A auto have different ecu, number of valve springs (I'm comparing the small V's ) and especially the cam. I've experience these two cams before and there's big difference. What do u mean by other cars? as in mitsubishi? or other honda car? For other honda car, i wasnt too sure..

 

[ARTA]

Btw, wat i mean is, i've ever use B16a's auto cam and manual's cam and also ITR cam on my current manual gb (Y1)..

 

[c1kai]

Bro B16Alaric: Ecu, cam ,valve springs, and gb difference....and all tat makes a big difference

Bro c1kai: The distributor damage might be caused from electrical problem. Some distributor suffers burnt bearing resulting from high rev. (too old for some recond parts..cant stand the rev)
Like the case i experienced before, i revved my engine till 8K while blasting my normal audio setup with aircond headlamps and foglights on (i had 4 fog lights...last time my car quite rice...hahaha) With all the electrical component as a burden while revving , the distributor cant take it.. The inner part where it always suffers damage of a Big V's distributor can be replaced while small V's cant. Small V's distributor, u haf to DIY or ask your reliable mech to repair it for u...as for mine...i replaced the whole distributor.

thanks for the info bro... but i can't smell any burnt part as i took off the distributor and dismantled it... my fwen n i did :

1) changed the coil and put it back - cranked and failed to start

2) changed the igniter ( correct me if i'm wrong ere) and put it back - same result (btw i changed to small V igniter; any diff between the big V and small V igniter ?)

3) changed the whole distributor - able to start with a single crank

in this case, i wuz cruzing on constant 180km/h for about 15km with my air-con and 4 ppl loaded when suddenly i felt a jerking momentum then i released the pedal to 140km/h. The next day on my way to KL , the distributor failed to perform.. hmmm... i cant afford to repeat da same case in a month... err is there any way to scout for a used igniter ?

 

[ARTA]

i wasn't sure bout the difference wif small v and big v igniter... I changed mine whole too.

I'm sure when u go 180km/h you are at least at rpm 6-7k roughly...so..for that distance, the bearing might not stand it. For my case, my car was jerking all the way to workshop, some of the times the engine is totally dead.

Btw, i dont think u can smell any burnt bearing, burnt or damaged bearing.

 

[rattan]

sorry to interrupt in between the conv. but do any-1 here ever encountered distributor problem koz mine went kaput 2 times in a row... btw my ride is b16a with auto tranny.. any idea to recond the distributor as the new taiwan made had cost me about RM350...

Best thins is get a new original stock one. Will lessen down yr headache one's and for all + u save money on panadol's. 2nd) you will get a big hole in yr pocket for once, but think on the other hand headache is less. HEHEHEHEHE

 

[EG8]

Hello to all the Honda Motorheads, i'm a newbie with a problem...

I am running an automatic B16A in my 1997 Civic. I've tried all the common mods... an open pod filter, heat shield, custom exhaust and a Apexi V-AFC2. I've even put in a ZEX Wet Nitrous Kit... but i still can't enough power to satistfy me.

Came across a 2nd hand turbo kit just right for my car in a shop in Sunway. Its a td05 turbo with a HKS blowoff valve, Evo5 intercooler, and so on so on. I'll also need to get a Greddy E-manage system as well apparently. The shop offered to do the whole set up for about 10k including tuning, redoing my exhaust, piping and installation. It's a light pressure turbo if i'm not mistaken.

Is this a good deal? Is this even a good idea to put in the turbo? I hope someone could give me some advice. Thanks in advance guys !!!

calling blur_civic...