cost to buy turbokit how much for 4g91?effect to engine or not?any recommend workshop around kl
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price may vary from quality and brand of product.go look around for the components that make up a kit.then suit it to your budget.
may i know which workshop can do a great job of fixing a low boost on my car...???is a 1.5 engine
hi,
u r going to bolt on turbo? let me explain simple thing. When u bolt on ur car there is no guarantee that ur engine will be perfect... more or so called "white mice" it's better to prepared some money to play around coz it will be not that cheap. maybe first conversion 3k then later this cannot that cannot then change this change that will cost u more $$$$$$$$. frankly speaking think before u do. coz i did a few conversion but NA still the best. if u wanna 2 experiment then welcome hahaha...
next month i supercharge a wira 1.6
and a honda prelude too.
if intrested or wanna 2 get any consult pls contact me at the number below.
u r going to bolt on turbo? let me explain simple thing. When u bolt on ur car there is no guarantee that ur engine will be perfect... more or so called "white mice" it's better to prepared some money to play around coz it will be not that cheap. maybe first conversion 3k then later this cannot that cannot then change this change that will cost u more $$$$$$$$. frankly speaking think before u do. coz i did a few conversion but NA still the best. if u wanna 2 experiment then welcome hahaha...
next month i supercharge a wira 1.6
and a honda prelude too.
if intrested or wanna 2 get any consult pls contact me at the number below.
hard to register new engine.only can up to 25% and it mean 1.6.1.8 cannot cuz i ask JPJ.
"almost" means didn't lar... Worth it or not in my opinion is a personal preferance... Some mods might seem stupid and pointless to someone... where as to others, they might give them the satisfaction they craved. I've seen a couple 4G13 turbo kitted dudes that are happy to own them... where as i believe to most of you, 4G13 turbo kitted engines are a waste of time and money. I've driven one before... DAMN does it kick ass (compared to other 4G13s that is)!! I think that car can match up a 1.6 performance... maybe better.
Whether a turbo kit will be satisfying to you or not... depends on what you expect out of it.
HOWEVER, I strongly agree with mxsteven.... N/A will always be the best!
can u do a supercharged civic 1.6efi
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[/b][/quote]havent try on civic EFI yet but it can be done... urs is VTEC version or what?
anyhow there is a risk if u convert...
think first.
Rather than mod this and that, I think better save money for stickers, bodykits and GT wing is better.
At least will make car looking more fierce and intimidating.
Last time my car Wira 1.5 carburator with full EVO3 bodykit. Other road users see my car coming from behind quickly move aside to make way for me. GRAND OR NOT?
Then I using boost meter (even though my car no turbo).
So when they see my boost meter and EVO3 bodykit, they already scared and say "FUIYOOO FAST CAR OHHHH!!!"
I want to change turbo engine but I scared fuel like drinking water like tat.
At least will make car looking more fierce and intimidating.
Last time my car Wira 1.5 carburator with full EVO3 bodykit. Other road users see my car coming from behind quickly move aside to make way for me. GRAND OR NOT?
Then I using boost meter (even though my car no turbo).
So when they see my boost meter and EVO3 bodykit, they already scared and say "FUIYOOO FAST CAR OHHHH!!!"
I want to change turbo engine but I scared fuel like drinking water like tat.
"almost" means didn't lar... Worth it or not in my opinion is a personal preferance... Some mods might seem stupid and pointless to someone... where as to others, they might give them the satisfaction they craved. I've seen a couple 4G13 turbo kitted dudes that are happy to own them... where as i believe to most of you, 4G13 turbo kitted engines are a waste of time and money. I've driven one before... DAMN does it kick ass (compared to other 4G13s that is)!! I think that car can match up a 1.6 performance... maybe better.
Whether a turbo kit will be satisfying to you or not... depends on what you expect out of it.
HOWEVER, I strongly agree with mxsteven.... N/A will always be the best!
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[/b][/quote]yeah i prefer NA but what can we say.... we are humans ... sometimes we will change our mind from time to time.... when we get bored on our NA cars then everywhere started to gatal already and thats the time stupid idea or experiments come to our mind bolt on turbo lah, change cam lah, port and polish lah, balance engine lah...... and etc etc..... till the end the most important is u r happy with it....
dont care what people say, dont care what people think.... if u think it is right then just do ur own deciesion and go ahead...
bolt on turbo is fun just the sake of kepishhhhh kepishhhh sound :lol: but some people got kepishhhh kepishhhh and krong krang booommmm (time for halfcut :lol: )..
but in a real reality.... supercharger is still more worth 2 play if u want coz the power is so linear and so smooth and the wear and tear is very less..
what can i say :huh: hahaha... NA got its own characteristic and turbo own its own too..
Mr MXSteven,
Can i ask for some info?
THis supercharger using wat management for fueling and ignition?
How many boost can run without touching internals?
Lets say engine is Wira 1.6?
And lastly, after Supercharging, how many hosepower on wheel will gain?
Thanks so much in advance!
Can i ask for some info?
THis supercharger using wat management for fueling and ignition?
How many boost can run without touching internals?
Lets say engine is Wira 1.6?
And lastly, after Supercharging, how many hosepower on wheel will gain?
Thanks so much in advance!
There are many components that go into making a complete supercharger system - mounting brackets, ignition controller, fuel pump, etc. okay now we look at only one component of a supercharger system - the supercharger itself (sometimes called a "head unit", "compressor", or "blower"or whatsoever people called lah). All superchargers, except turbochargers, are driven via a pulley that is connected either to the engine's accessory belt, or to its own belt that goes directly to a crank pulley. This is where the similarities between the different supercharger technologies end.
supercharge has a mere 5 to 20% power increased over the standard vehicle engine. it is designed to give managable increase power and torque to the standard engine over wider driving range (speed 80kph / 2,000 rpm to 6,500 rpm)
super charger does not need to alter the internal engine parts. There are two reasons for this. First, the roots supercharger does not compress air - it only moves from the intake port to the discharge port (i.e. it is the only supercharger design with no internal compression ratio). All of the compression is done in the intake manifold. Laws of thermodynamics kick in in favor of supercharger designs with an internal compression ratio (centrifugal and twin screw) because they do less work on the incoming air charge. We will leave the mathematics of this phenomenon to a later (much more boring) discussion. Another reason roots superchargers create higher amounts of heat is because they tend to carry some of the compressed air in the intake back into the supercharger because it gets trapped by the rotating lobes that are exposed to the hotter air in the intake manifold.
i hope you understand what im saying, i just share my 2cents of experience
Mm....I understand wat you are saying but I think it has nothing related to what I'm asking.
Lets assume u have a customer with 1.6 SOHC Proton engine who want to be Supercharged with stock internals.
1. When the engine is supercharged, you will need more fuel and to advance or retard the ignition. How will u alter the ECU's maps? piggyback or standalone?
2. How much boost will this supercharger generate without sending the engine to hell.
3. How will u regulate the boost pressure?
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Lets assume u have a customer with 1.6 SOHC Proton engine who want to be Supercharged with stock internals.
1. When the engine is supercharged, you will need more fuel and to advance or retard the ignition. How will u alter the ECU's maps? piggyback or standalone?
2. How much boost will this supercharger generate without sending the engine to hell.
3. How will u regulate the boost pressure?
PS :
:blink: 4GZEs are Roots Superchargered engines and they can generate shit loads of boost......I'm lost.
accually supercharged stock standard dont need any feul management but make sure ur fuel pump pressure is sufficent.
supercharger does not generate as much boost as Turbo does, this is depend of what supercharger you are going to use therefore supercharger boost and air compress is a total diffrent thing please dont get lost....
supercharger normally boost at minimal, even a great centrifugal supercharger will only generate less than 1 bar.... as what i heard there is people around doing the supercharger boost as good as turbo. Well it is depend on how u play the games. The higher boost u takes, the more things u have to put eg: piggyback controller to manage feul, wastegate , blow off, bigger intercoller and so on.
So the best is to understand basic things. how supercharger works? what makes supercharger? and how it got the pressure? and so on........
need to know more well.... this website i found could be infomative
http://www.superchargersonline.com/superchargers.asp
Happy veiwing and hope u learn something.
and thanks for quetioning me.
If a Supercharger does not generate as much boost as Turbo, can u tell us how much boost does a Supercharger generate?
I thought Boost pressure is pressurized air and Pressurized air is Compresed air.
If there is no compressed air, how come boost meter register positive manifold pressure?
Do you mean if Supercharger boost is very high, have to use wastegate? Normally wat diameter wastegate? 60mm Greddy enough ah?
The is no explanation about how Superchargers work in the link you posted. Its only about the different Superchargers which are available in the market.
SUpercharger normally boost at minimal? How come Toyota 4AGZE Superchargers can boost more than 1 bar? A "Great" centrifugal supercharger generate less than 1 bar?
And you still have not answered how to regulate the boost pressure with supercharger.
If I not mistaken, I think Superchargers are spun by the engine's pulley belts rite. So if the engine speed increases higher and higher, boost will be getting higher and higher as well.
If the boost is getting higher and higher, the risk of self destruction is increasing dangerously.
So how does your supercharger control the amount of boost entering the engine?
And how much boost is safe boost without fuel piggyback, etc?
Dear Joeker:
i think there is nothing to argue when u still wanna 2 stick 2 ur point.
Frankly speaking i dont think u are really understand what is supercharger.
you are keep sticking to quetion. And i had already answer you but u still coun'nt understand what can i say.
theres nothing between me and u ok!
if u still wanna 2 stick to the point thats up to u. i just share my experience.
no harm no enemy
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i think there is nothing to argue when u still wanna 2 stick 2 ur point.
Frankly speaking i dont think u are really understand what is supercharger.
you are keep sticking to quetion. And i had already answer you but u still coun'nt understand what can i say.
theres nothing between me and u ok!
if u still wanna 2 stick to the point thats up to u. i just share my experience.
no harm no enemy
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