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1st of all i apologize, cuz i dont really know where to post this..

I juz need FIVE minutes of yr time dear zthians.. I have an assignment about this topic n i really need yr helps.. Its about FIBERGLASS If possible pls answer all questions or u can skip to any other questions. Juz include numbers followed by answers.. eg. '1. yes'

thanx in advance. :regular_smile:

IN GENERAL
1. Are you familiar with fiberglass bodykits?
2 Have u done any of those fiberglass products at yr car(s)?
3. Where do u get yr car(s) done? (shop name, location)
4. Do u think local fiberglass bodykits are up to yr expectation in terms of design?
5. Are they durable enough (fragility)?
5. What do u think of their work, is it worth yr money?
6. How much are uwilling to spend for fiberglass bodykits?

TECHNICAL
7. Do u think the local bodykit designs are arodynamic?
8. Do u think the bodykits are suitable for the road in M'sia?
9. Do u know any other materials such as PU(polyurethane), FRP (fiber-reinforced-pu), or kevlar?
10. Do u think any of the materials suits for bodykits making? WHY?
11. Do u think local car manufacturer should come with that material for the bumpers, skirting etc? (from question 10)
12. Do u think local car designs are up to international standard?
13. If u are a local car designer,what would u do to make our local car more competative?

THANX for yr reply zthians..
 
use PU better coz paint work Pu can give better surface .... n fibreglass once crash there goes a crack ..... stick to PU ... or plastic but never try fibreglass if can ..... plastic is recomended for skirting if u can find
 
1) see a lot people using it.
2) at this moment, no thanks.
3) alot of shop u can choose, c uself.
4) ok lor
5) yes
6) yes
7) around 100 - 200 RM depend lor

for technical ask expert lor...
 
tx lan1800.. i juz need yr personal oppinion.. d questions r not meant for expert or any people involve in car making.. juz any1 who hav any thought of it.
 
IN GENERAL
1. yes
2. yes
3. RABK Seberang Perai, Penang
4. depends
5. depends on the user...
5. yes
6. 200~500

TECHNICAL
7. nope coz no wind tunnel test
8. yes but not for the extremed b/kit
9. yes
10. yes, coz more durable and rigid
11. yes
12. 50-50
13. Make end user decides about the design and concept and follow through...

All of the above answers is only my 10cents opinion... :)
 
IN GENERAL
1. No
2 No
6. Free... haha joke... erm... i will consider C/P value... main purpose for carbon fibre or other material is reduce car weight(ex: reduce original item's weight 50% or more than 50%)... if it can save petrol and increase car handling obvious... i dont mind paid higher price (but reasonable la)..

TECHNICAL
7. same with kruger, no wind tunner test hard to said..
8. Yes
9. yes... y dont has ABS and Carbon?
10. PU, hard to damage.. good bending angle.. thin.. but if damage, hard to repair, need to change the new one .. (future mainstream bodykit material, i think)
11. Yes
12. No
13. safety... not just protect driver... i will consider how to protect other car or people also... i think this is only way we can " more competative"...

p/s: personal opinion... just for reference.. thanx..
 
IN GENERAL

1. Yes
2. No
3. NA
4. not really, not much choices for non-local cars
5. dunno yet (havent owned one)
5. NA
6. RM200+

TECHNICAL
7. Not sure....looks ok hahah
8. not really...some are so low that they scrape the humps...visually, they are ok
9. heard of PU before...and Carbon Fiber
10. PU is more resistant to minor bumps...CF is better for performance
11. YES!!!
12. Ok la
13. Come out with a turbocharged version of Gen 2 muahahahaah
 
IN GENERAL
1. Are you familiar with fiberglass bodykits?
- all i know is, they should be called glass fibre-reinforced resin bodykits
2 Have u done any of those fiberglass products at yr car(s)?
- yes, just got a pair of http://drexchan.fotopic.net/c930224.html
3. Where do u get yr car(s) done? (shop name, location)
- drex zhng kereta sdn. bhd., seri kembangan
4. Do u think local fiberglass bodykits are up to yr expectation in terms of design?
- mostly replicas. what expectation are we talking about? NO!
5. Are they durable enough (fragility)?
- some are, like the daiichi.
5. What do u think of their work, is it worth yr money?
- NO, that's why i installed it myself.
6. How much are u willing to spend for fiberglass bodykits?
- a hundred including a paint job for the rear skirts I just had.

TECHNICAL
7. Do u think the local bodykit designs are arodynamic?
- i don't have a wind-tunnel to test them.. so do the producers i think.
8. Do u think the bodykits are suitable for the road in M'sia?
- who cares?
9. Do u know any other materials such as PU(polyurethane), FRP (fiber-reinforced-pu), or kevlar?
- Yes. What about high impact polypropylene (HIPP) and carbon fibre reinforced resins?
10. Do u think any of the materials suits for bodykits making? WHY?
- Interestingly, not many know that the original (OEM) bodykits, bumpers, etc, are made of HIPP.
11. Do u think local car manufacturer should come with that material for the bumpers, skirting etc? (from question 10)
- PP! They are already using it!
12. Do u think local car designs are up to international standard?
- there's no such international standard for "taste". If really have to answer, YES.
13. If u are a local car designer,what would u do to make our local car more competative?
- competitiveness is not only on the design. that's the job of the marketing people.

/drexchan
 
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IN GENERAL
1. Are you familiar with fiberglass bodykits?
- yes
2 Have u done any of those fiberglass products at yr car(s)?
- nope
3. Where do u get yr car(s) done? (shop name, location)
- i didnt get it done, but know a shop sumwhe in pandan mewah, custom FG
4. Do u think local fiberglass bodykits are up to yr expectation in terms of design?
- can la 50/50
5. Are they durable enough (fragility)?
- kena sikit pecah, kena sikit pecah.. not good la like dat
5. What do u think of their work, is it worth yr money?
- nope
6. How much are u willing to spend for fiberglass bodykits?
- maybe if free can la. if hav 2 buy i dowan, haha

TECHNICAL

7. Do u think the local bodykit designs are arodynamic?
- nope
8. Do u think the bodykits are suitable for the road in M'sia?
- some only (the upper side of ur car) eg. spoiler
9. Do u know any other materials such as PU(polyurethane), FRP (fiber-reinforced-pu), or kevlar?
- yeap
10. Do u think any of the materials suits for bodykits making? WHY?
- no answer
11. Do u think local car manufacturer should come with that material for the bumpers, skirting etc? (from question 10)
- nope, mudah pecah
12. Do u think local car designs are up to international standard?
- 50/50
13. If u are a local car designer,what would u do to make our local car more competative?
- quality up, engine power up n maintain the price, hehe

my 2cents only - don fire me ... cheers
 
1. Are you familiar with fiberglass bodykits? -yes

2 Have u done any of those fiberglass products at yr car(s)? -yes, I've done it myself

3. Where do u get yr car(s) done? (shop name, location) -refer answer no. 2

4. Do u think local fiberglass bodykits are up to yr expectation in terms of design?
not really. the locals are merely copycats of the original bodykit. but pretty good for value for money.

5. Are they durable enough (fragility)?
-depends on the quality of the materials actually...


5. What do u think of their work, is it worth yr money?
-beggers can't be chooser, can they?

6. How much are uwilling to spend for fiberglass bodykits?
-depends on how attractive the b/kits are.....


TECHNICAL

7. Do u think the local bodykit designs are arodynamic?
hehe, where got arodynamic? bodykit is for look, aerokit for aerodynamic.
many ppl confused......

8. Do u think the bodykits are suitable for the road in M'sia?
Let me ask you- do you think road humps are suitable in msia road?.

9. Do u know any other materials such as PU(polyurethane), FRP (fiber-reinforced-pu), or kevlar?
I know all, but I don't have a rich dady. f/glass or PU is still most vaible for road cars.

10. Do u think any of the materials suits for bodykits making? WHY?
It all goes back to dollar and sens and the affordability of the material, be if cf or g/fibre. Everyone wants a ferrari, but can everyone own it?

11. Do u think local car manufacturer should come with that material for the bumpers, skirting etc? (from question 10).
Are they of good quality in the first place???

12. Do u think local car designs are up to international standard? the local are good being copycats.


13. If u are a local car designer,what would u do to make our local car more competative? Educate drivers "u give peanut, u get monkey"
 
FoarGeez said:
IN GENERAL
1. Are you familiar with fiberglass bodykits?
2 Have u done any of those fiberglass products at yr car(s)?
3. Where do u get yr car(s) done? (shop name, location)
4. Do u think local fiberglass bodykits are up to yr expectation in terms of design?
5. Are they durable enough (fragility)?
5. What do u think of their work, is it worth yr money?
6. How much are uwilling to spend for fiberglass bodykits?
TECHNICAL
7. Do u think the local bodykit designs are arodynamic?
8. Do u think the bodykits are suitable for the road in M'sia?
9. Do u know any other materials such as PU(polyurethane), FRP (fiber-reinforced-pu), or kevlar?
10. Do u think any of the materials suits for bodykits making? WHY?
11. Do u think local car manufacturer should come with that material for the bumpers, skirting etc? (from question 10)
12. Do u think local car designs are up to international standard?
13. If u are a local car designer,what would u do to make our local car more competative?

1. not so familiar
2. yes...my kenari full set
3. Selayang, JE automart
4. design can copy others
5. not durable
6. as cheap as posible
7.not so
8. why not
9. PU only
10. No
11. should come wit beter quality
12.no...
13. cant expect more coz of jpj rules n regulation
 
IN GENERAL
1. Are you familiar with fiberglass bodykits?
Yup
2 Have u done any of those fiberglass products at yr car(s)?
Nope, reason below
3. Where do u get yr car(s) done? (shop name, location)
See above.
4. Do u think local fiberglass bodykits are up to yr expectation in terms of design?
There are one or two big companies that do good jobs but mostly no.
5. Are they durable enough (fragility)?
Nope
5. What do u think of their work, is it worth yr money?
Nope
6. How much are uwilling to spend for fiberglass bodykits?
Need to see results first to justify the costs involved. Naturally a good job will cost money, there's no denying that.

TECHNICAL
7. Do u think the local bodykit designs are arodynamic?
No just weird and some even make aerodynamics worse. I know it can't be tested without a wind tunnel but you aren't gonna see any difference below 130kph on the road and do you think adding a huge rear wing with a standard front end is gonna bring benefits?
8. Do u think the bodykits are suitable for the road in M'sia?
Not the extremely low ones and the cheaper ones will suffer from all the vibrations that your car generates by being on M'sian roads

9. Do u know any other materials such as PU(polyurethane), FRP (fiber-reinforced-pu), or kevlar?
PU is generally strong, FRP should be strong not familiar with it, kevlar is over the top a bit but still a good material
10. Do u think any of the materials suits for bodykits making? WHY?
Yup because of the strength each one offers
11. Do u think local car manufacturer should come with that material for the bumpers, skirting etc? (from question 10)
No, they should stick to what they know best and some mentalities need to be changed within the companies then they explore different materials. With the current people in charge, those materials will just be used to raise the prices of cars and to make money in any way they can
12. Do u think local car designs are up to international standard?
No
13. If u are a local car designer,what would u do to make our local car more competative?
Being original would be a start. Stop immitating 98% and use foreign designs just for inspiration and not as a starting block for a new National car. Improve QC and after sales service. Shift up to Euro 5 standards and go head to head with some foreign manufacturers. Honda has Toyota. Mercedes has BMW. Ferrari has Lamborghini. 21 years is a long time and we should be able to at least have an equal competitor out there. At the moment the National car cannot even go up against Naza as a fair fight so what's the excuse now?

Create an identity. An Audi A4 and A8 can be said to be brothers. Same goes for the BMW 1-series and the 7-series. Wira, Waja, Savvy, Gen-2 - The resemblance is only in the badge and even that has changed in recent years. Make the car recognizable. You know its a Proton for a reason and that reason should not be the badge and the bad after sales
 
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