Myvi 1.5 rim change suggestion

[6UE5t]

When you go to the shop to check out the rims, get them to place the rims at the wheels of your car. Some have these black cloth where they will cover the back of the rims so that when place at your car wheels will block of the view of your old set, then you can look at the new design whether match your car or not.....

After you focus/shortlist to one model, before you finally really decide to buy it, really get them to install the rims with tires at one side so you can check all the clearance and how they exactly fit into your fenders.

 

[aranny2001]

After you focus/shortlist to one model, before you finally really decide to buy it, really get them to install the rims with tires at one side so you can check all the clearance and how they exactly fit into your fenders.

i think ill change to eibach lowering spring first only go to test the rim.... hopefully gonna fit my taste.... i saw most of the rim with low profile tire, the tire sidewall bit curve inside... it is possible to make 195/50/R15 tire to do like tat too? cool looking~:hmmmm:

 

[vr2turbo]

i think ill change to eibach lowering spring first only go to test the rim.... hopefully gonna fit my taste.... i saw most of the rim with low profile tire, the tire sidewall bit curve inside... it is possible to make 195/50/R15 tire to do like tat too? cool looking~:hmmmm:

With lowered spring it should look cool.
The rims if they are offset 40, I think probably no problem with clearance. With offset 38, even though only 2mm difference could scrap the fender, so it depends how low the springs, how wide the rims too as they comes in 6.5J and 7J also.
Like bro. 6uest mentioned, once confirmed, make sure the shop agree that if fitted should not have any clearance problem...

 

[6UE5t]

i think ill change to eibach lowering spring first only go to test the rim.... hopefully gonna fit my taste.... i saw most of the rim with low profile tire, the tire sidewall bit curve inside... it is possible to make 195/50/R15 tire to do like tat too? cool looking~:hmmmm:

If the tires curved inside a bit, that means your rims are a bit too wide for the tire size and your rim lips will have less protection by the tires. Also the more stretch the tires due to rims too wide, the harder the feel will be. But of course all these also depends on the tires itself (some has extra sidewall protection for rims, some also softer sidewall so will make the ride more comfortable). In general for 195 tire, it's normally recommended that you should not go over 7inch wide rims.

 

[vr2turbo]

To me 6.5" is better for 195 width. 7" if really cannot help, but basically 15" aftermarket usually not more then 7" unless special rims.....

 

[6UE5t]

To me 6.5" is better for 195 width. 7" if really cannot help, but basically 15" aftermarket usually not more then 7" unless special rims.....

Yes, 6.5inch is ideal as it would provide sufficient protection to the rims.

 

[vr2turbo]

Yes, 6.5inch is ideal as it would provide sufficient protection to the rims.

If need more protection, then like you mentioned earlier choose the tyre with thick rim protector.....

 

[aranny2001]

With lowered spring it should look cool.
The rims if they are offset 40, I think probably no problem with clearance. With offset 38, even though only 2mm difference could scrap the fender, so it depends how low the springs, how wide the rims too as they comes in 6.5J and 7J also.
Like bro. 6uest mentioned, once confirmed, make sure the shop agree that if fitted should not have any clearance problem...

thx bro... what is the diff btw offset 38 and 40? which one will make the fender flush with tire?:hmmmm:

 

[radhie]

I'm using 15 x 7 offset 40,tire 195/50/15..so far no problem with my first gen myvi :)

 

[cvkit17]

Once you lowered your ride and got urself a new set of rims..remember to post pic :wavey:

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

thx bro... what is the diff btw offset 38 and 40? which one will make the fender flush with tire?:hmmmm:

Offset: Measured in numbers, the differences are in MM. Offset = where the wheel is mounted, say positive, it is means the mounting hub is very far out towards the spoke of the wheels. 0 is ngam in the middle, and negative is behind the centre line.

The tire sidewall curving in thingy: Its called stretch! Its actually a very old trick a lot of european guys do, the law was that the tires have to be under the standard fenders, but not the rims. So running wider rims than the tire will cause stretch. However the degree (angle) of stretch really depends on the thiness of the sidewall. Thin sidewalls = higher stretch angle. Thick the whole sidewall flexes so you dont get to see that 'angle' that you're looking for. If you're serious about flushing the car, you can get 15' wheels with 7jj and run 175.50.15 tires over like those kei cars. Looks nice but if you are clumsy like me in parking you WILL kerb the rims, dent it depends on strength of the rims you buy la .



So summary, the lower the number of the offset the more it pokes out. I vote 38 offset, 40-36 are all extremely conservative offsets, and considering you're only going on springs also your car is gonna be far from slammed, dont worry about scraping. Happy shopping! :wavey:

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thx for the advise, i should really go to look around for the 15" rim now

Like bro. cvkit mentioned rims & tyres in 16" or even 17" will cost much more. Rims are one time purchase but tyres will be on going. 17 will look the best then 16". 15" will be normal looking but easier on maintenance.
For handling and acceleration 195/50R15 will be better. 55 series diameter is 2.1% bigger that your original tyres. However 55 series will be more comfortable....
For 16" the diameter is only 1.34% bigger, but because of the tyre width of 205, friction and rolling resistance will set in.
So all depends on what you want and what budget you will throw in.....

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Yup, agree with bro. wagon, with adjustable (but more costly), you can play with height, spring rate, rebound rate and so on.

I think he like the look of 16" with ultra low profile tyres....

If going for 15" rims, actually should get those with spokes reaching the rim edge. This will give an illusion that the wheels looks bigger.....

Aranny: No problems bro, thats what the forum is for isnt it? :rolleyes:

VR2: Haha HWL quite affordable whaaat, that little extra goes a long way in adjustability . Eibach springs themselves arent cheap...

 

[aranny2001]

Offset: Measured in numbers, the differences are in MM. Offset = where the wheel is mounted, say positive, it is means the mounting hub is very far out towards the spoke of the wheels. 0 is ngam in the middle, and negative is behind the centre line.

The tire sidewall curving in thingy: Its called stretch! Its actually a very old trick a lot of european guys do, the law was that the tires have to be under the standard fenders, but not the rims. So running wider rims than the tire will cause stretch. However the degree (angle) of stretch really depends on the thiness of the sidewall. Thin sidewalls = higher stretch angle. Thick the whole sidewall flexes so you dont get to see that 'angle' that you're looking for. If you're serious about flushing the car, you can get 15' wheels with 7jj and run 175.50.15 tires over like those kei cars. Looks nice but if you are clumsy like me in parking you WILL kerb the rims, dent it depends on strength of the rims you buy la .

bro, i found my stock tire which is 175/60/R14, during corner, medium speed around 60km/h i can feel my car like sliding ..scary.... so if i change to 15 rims wanna make the tire stretch, with 175/50/15, since the width of the tire same as the stock size, will it cause the same sliding problem?:hmmmm:

 

[cfa]

When you upsize, the rule of thumb is:

+ 10mm for width of tyre
- 10% for side wall height of tyre
+ 1 inch for rims

Hence, 175/60/14 would translate to 185/50/15. However, this size is not widely available. What is more widely available is 185/55/15, 195/50/15 and 195/55/15.

Thought the std tyre for Myvi was Your original size should be 175/65/14. At least that's what on Perodua website. Sure your OEM tyre is 175/60/14? What is the size indicated at your door / manual?

 

[wongth7]

tumpang thread TS, im thinking of changing my myvi rim to 195/50/15 too, but staying with stock spring and absorber..is that ok?..how would the handling feels like?..FC?

 

[vr2turbo]

thx bro... what is the diff btw offset 38 and 40? which one will make the fender flush with tire?:hmmmm:

In layman terms the offset number the smaller the more it comes out from the wheel fender.
Therefore 38 will come out more, so if you have scrapping problem 40 will be better but 38 looks better with the wheel further out. Even though in calculation the difference is only 2mm but in term of wheel clearance is a lot.

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I'm using 15 x 7 offset 40,tire 195/50/15..so far no problem with my first gen myvi :)

Using 50 series (lower tyre series) you have more space allowance between tyre and fender.
Using 55 series may scrap the fender on heavy load....

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VR2: Haha HWL quite affordable whaaat, that little extra goes a long way in adjustability . Eibach springs themselves arent cheap...

Yup, with adjustable plenty to play with. Just got a set, will post some pics later....have to search for them...

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bro, i found my stock tire which is 175/60/R14, during corner, medium speed around 60km/h i can feel my car like sliding ..scary.... so if i change to 15 rims wanna make the tire stretch, with 175/50/15, since the width of the tire same as the stock size, will it cause the same sliding problem?:hmmmm:

As per the tyres mentioned by bro. cfa, 185/55R15 is the correct conversion.
195/50 is lower and 195/55 is higher. Since you are lowering and want wider tyres for traction/handling then 195/50 will be better.

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tumpang thread TS, im thinking of changing my myvi rim to 195/50/15 too, but staying with stock spring and absorber..is that ok?..how would the handling feels like?..FC?

195/50R15 is okay, but staying with standard springs you will have more wheel space as this tyre size is smaller then the original size.
However with the right tyre choice (performance) Handling will be very much better, less body roll, better cornering, traction/Grip improved, however ride will be more bumpy....

 

[aranny2001]

195/50R15 is okay, but staying with standard springs you will have more wheel space as this tyre size is smaller then the original size.
However with the right tyre choice (performance) Handling will be very much better, less body roll, better cornering, traction/Grip improved, however ride will be more bumpy....

yea, i've calculate, and find it our stock size is 175/65/R14, so with 195/50/R15 really seems will make the radius from the stock wheel become smaller... R14+ 65= 79, but if R15+50= 65 only:hmmmm: this gonna look weird~ since if we use the R15 tire make the radius smaller, this suppose wont affect much of the fc right? how to make the wheel space lesser about 3 fingers? if we use tire 205/45/R16 the total radius will only 61?? lol... can we count in that way? hahahahaha... confusing....:hmmmm:

 

[vr2turbo]

yea, i've calculate, and find it our stock size is 175/65/R14, so with 195/50/R15 really seems will make the radius from the stock wheel become smaller... R14+ 65= 79, but if R15+50= 65 only:hmmmm: this gonna look weird~ since if we use the R15 tire make the radius smaller, this suppose wont affect much of the fc right? how to make the wheel space lesser about 3 fingers? if we use tire 205/45/R16 the total radius will only 61?? lol... can we count in that way? hahahahaha... confusing....:hmmmm:

Nope, not that way. 14 is in inches, 65 is the series or percentage of width
Use this:-
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

195/50R15 is not that small. 1.2% smaller only, so wheel space slightly more.
You want less space then lower the car.....

 

[aranny2001]

Nope, not that way. 14 is in inches, 65 is the series or percentage of width
Use this:-
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

195/50R15 is not that small. 1.2% smaller only, so wheel space slightly more.
You want less space then lower the car.....

any idea how much is the finger.gap if i use 195/50/r15, lower with eibach spring?

 

[vr2turbo]

any idea how much is the finger.gap if i use 195/50/r15, lower with eibach spring?

I think best is someone who already have that setup can only tell you.....

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Yup, with adjustable plenty to play with. Just got a set, will post some pics later....have to search for them...

Here are the pics....

Rear ones, adjust for height, spring tension and damping rate....

Rear fitted...

Front fitted

 

[aranny2001]

anyone experience how much is the finger.gap if i use 195/50/r15, lower with eibach spring?