mods on Accord CF4

nksc,
pakai spoiler mugen..lawa skit..jarang ada kat auction..kalau ada mahal..
aku kat osaka..keje kat sini..pakai CF4 SIR je..beli 2 tahun lepas..time tu EUro-R mahal lagi..tak mampu..

ada budak kat akita pakai accord euro-R..tapi nak jual rasanya..dulu aku ada member juga pakai torneo euro-R kat tokyo..

ni pun aku ingat nak jual CF4 aku murah2..nak cari kete lain lak..kalau ada buyer ke,contactlah [email protected]..

ramai student kat jepun pakai altezza..
 
sendai said:
nksc,
pakai spoiler mugen..lawa skit..jarang ada kat auction..kalau ada mahal..
aku kat osaka..keje kat sini..pakai CF4 SIR je..beli 2 tahun lepas..time tu EUro-R mahal lagi..tak mampu..

ada budak kat akita pakai accord euro-R..tapi nak jual rasanya..dulu aku ada member juga pakai torneo euro-R kat tokyo..

ni pun aku ingat nak jual CF4 aku murah2..nak cari kete lain lak..kalau ada buyer ke,contactlah [email protected]..

ramai student kat jepun pakai altezza..


spoiler mugen kaa..x mahal ke??huhu

oo tau tau..mamat yg nak jual euro r tu nama bulet kalo x silap..eheh..euro r dia byk bikin ka??kaler merah kan..

oo ko nak jual ek cf4..ko nak angkat keta lain ke?? mahal tak duit parking kat osaka?? :shocked:
 
nksc said:
spoiler mugen kaa..x mahal ke??huhu

oo tau tau..mamat yg nak jual euro r tu nama bulet kalo x silap..eheh..euro r dia byk bikin ka??kaler merah kan..

oo ko nak jual ek cf4..ko nak angkat keta lain ke?? mahal tak duit parking kat osaka?? :shocked:

yup..nama dia bulet..baru beli nak jual..color merah..pakai spoiler mugen..cun jugak..spoiler mugen used nye dalam 30,000yen lebih..rare item..

kete aku kat sendai lagi pasal dulu aku blaja kat sana..parking sini memang mahal gila..bulan 10 nanti aku pindah yokohama pulak..

ingat nak pakai kete lain..tapi tgklah dulu..byk nak pakai duit..
 
Dasat student kat Jepun nih. Pakai kete canggih-canggih. Korang boleh bawak balik berapa ketul ke Malaysia? Sana CL7 berapa harga? Masa aku keje kat EU, aku pun beli kete siap bawa balik 4 bijik nasib tak kena tax... ke ke ke.. kete mainan la..
Korang boleh tolong cari kan CL1 punye front grill ka (yg ada Euro-R emblem tu)? Tolong check brapa harga after convert RM. Jgnla pakai yen ke man ke :-)

amdfaisal, ko next week ada sini ke? Aku area SA gak.
 
edddial said:
Dasat student kat Jepun nih. Pakai kete canggih-canggih. Korang boleh bawak balik berapa ketul ke Malaysia? Sana CL7 berapa harga? Masa aku keje kat EU, aku pun beli kete siap bawa balik 4 bijik nasib tak kena tax... ke ke ke.. kete mainan la..
Korang boleh tolong cari kan CL1 punye front grill ka (yg ada Euro-R emblem tu)? Tolong check brapa harga after convert RM. Jgnla pakai yen ke man ke :-)

amdfaisal, ko next week ada sini ke? Aku area SA gak.

edddial..CL1 punye front grill tu u nak yg mana? accord euro r or torneo euro r??
 
Lupa lak nak mention pasal front grill tu; CL1 Accord Euro-R.

Nak tanya sikit, aku ada beli HID bulb purplish color (Phillips Japan) tapi bila pasang kat kete aku dia agak malap sikit. Apsal ah? Pasal aku punye yg original(white) terang sikit.
 
nksc said:
aaa..aku hokuriku kat niigata ken..ko dtg tak masa taikai bola haritu??ha ha ha..ada 2 bijik altezza dtg x silap aku..keta ko ke tuh???:shocked:

nksc..niigata kai. sama la kite. huhu. Yep aku ade dtg mase taikai bola aritu. Keta aku yg kaler putih CF bonet. btw ko shindai ke nagaoka gidai? Kut2 aku kenal ko nih..huhu
 
aidmob said:
nksc..niigata kai. sama la kite. huhu. Yep aku ade dtg mase taikai bola aritu. Keta aku yg kaler putih CF bonet. btw ko shindai ke nagaoka gidai? Kut2 aku kenal ko nih..huhu

oo..ha ha ha..ko niigata dai eh?? aku nagaoka la..

tp aku xde keta lg..sobb..sobb..:cry_smile:
 
nksc said:
oo..ha ha ha..ko niigata dai eh?? aku nagaoka la..

tp aku xde keta lg..sobb..sobb..:cry_smile:

meh beli kete aku..hihi..

student jepun byk buat part time..tu yg duit lebat tu..pakai evo,skyline,impreza..aku tgk pun takut..haha..
 
aja said:
Tu yg last2 ramai kaki2 DC5 turbo-charged their ride..lepas tu jual beli Subaru/Evo. hehehehe

Anyway, judging from H22A CD* performance...stock condition, i don't think it's really a fast engine?, i guess. I used to raced with my previous stock lancer Mivec CK (mivec terbalik) also last time at hway, few times. Not that impressive, agree?. Last time 1 eg6 (2 door) H22A also kena tapau with old Prelude B16A at Federal Hway also. hehehe

aja, hehe..DC5 can lose to EG/EK mild-mod. these engineers are really good are modding their EG/EK, hehe..

H22A in CD6/SV4 is not powerful enough, I agree with you. but, put it in EG/EK, it will blow any 4G93T, VR4, even some Evo engines easily. But, jockey kena terror la, have to maintain rpm to maintain VTEC opening. The MIVEC CK9A is an impressive engine, performance at par with 4G93T, but due to heavy body, it seems like it is not impressive, whereas it is in fact impressive.

aja, I think the EG6 H22A kena tapau with Prelude B20B, topB16A, bottom CRV block 2.0, that's why kot, hehehe....
 
aja said:
khairiz,
Last time u used to drove both SV4 H22A (donno AT or MT) & CF4 DOHC AT. Which one is better?. ..just asking..

hehehe...ok, this is a big request from you becoz u asked me twice. I have no reason not to answer now, hehehe...

The accord that I owned was a 1996 local model and converted to CD8, US model Accord Coupe engine. The engine was H22A auto, same horse at 190bhp. At the time I installed it, the mileage was very low, basically because it was quite new in the market, compare to CD6 halfcut at that time (year 2001).

Here is the comparison of the unregistered Accord CF4 Sir that I owned back in middle 2003 with the SV4 H22A, from CF4 point of view:

In stock form:
Engine - H22A auto is a more powerful engine compare to the 180bhp F20B Sir. H22A has more low-rpm and high-rpm torque, however, its setback is it is installed in a bigger size car, namely, the CD6/SV4.

I use to play my CF4 Sir (masa tu tak modified lagi) with a stock form SV4. I thought the SV4 have a stock engine, but the car has H22A inside. kena makan la beb.

The 200-bhp Sir-T is a lot more powerful engine. In highway, stock-to-stock, aku expect the performance of H22A SV4 is better compare to F20B Sir-T.

In modified form:
If the F20B Sir is properly modded, can leave the H22A CD6/SV4 behind. The most modded F20B Sir yang aku tau is the one previously owned by racecraft owner, rated at 210bhp if I'm not mistaken.

However, if the SV4 H22A black top is properly mod, H22A SV4/CD6 can say bye-bye to F20B Sir in highway.

The Sir-T F20B is a more powerful engine. If it is properly modded, can beat the performance of H22A (black top). Even in long-distance also, F20B Sir-T can still leave CD6/SV4 H22A behind, because of the higher power-to-weight ratio. Kalau F20B Sir can mod to 210bhp, I expect the F20B Sir-T can mod to more than that.

However, if the H22A Prelude is installed in the SV4, my view/observation will be different.

Handling:
The only way that a F20B Sir, F20B Sir-T can beat the SV4 H22A (with accord halfcut) is in handling. CF4 is a lot more better in terms of handling, body shell is stronger, higher crash test rating, suspension. JDM model is a lot, lot, lot different compare to any Honda local model. There are a lots of difference between a SV4 converted H22A and CF4 in terms of handling. This is the area where a CF4 owner can tuned their car to beat SV4 H22A. However, don't expect CF4 F20B to beat SV4/CD6 H22A in long distance, even if heavily modded. The H22A is a more reliable, tough and stronger engine. The only way for CF4 to beat a heavily modded SV4 H22A is by having CL1 engine inside.

Tak perlu banyak mod pun untuk mod CL1. Just mod the exhaust system, mugen extractor, RSM, light-weight sport rim, mugen adjustable suspension, open-air filter, gearbox oil cooler. Kalau nak mild mod, just tambah thermostat, earth cables, power cables, spark plug, power booster, oil catch tank and change to Endless brake pads. Kalau heavy mod, buat oversized throttle body, port & polish and finally E-Manage.

Since u guys dah owned CF4, if you want more punch from your car, the only thing needed is CL1 engine. There is one being advertised in the current motor trader (in JB if I'm not mistaken). For aja, if you want more power from your CL1 engine, you can consider the mods mentioned above.
 
nksc said:
hmm..nak tanye sket...kalo kreta NA cam enjin vtec ni..kalo tekan minyak high speed for long run..xpe ke?? kalo enjin turbo camna plax??bleh ke bawak lama2 high speed..x meletop ke enjin turbo tu??

NA engine macam VTEC can go for high speed in long run. No problem at all. even if the VTEC remains open all the time. Cuma, depends on you about the FC, coz as long as the VTEC opens, the FC will be higher.

Engine turbo cannot last long on high speed. Possibility for damage to turbine and explosion is high, besides very high FC at high speed. The advantage Turbos have over NA is torque, that's why, if you race with a turbo cars on the streets, the turbos will try to left you behind as far as possible, because after some distance, the engines efficiency/turbo efficiency will start to reduce. See the trend in the Merdeka Millenium Race.

In highway, NA can play with turbo with negligible difference in engine cc. But, in ordinary roads, like the old Kuantan-Karak highway, turbo is the king.
 
khairiaz said:
aja, hehe..DC5 can lose to EG/EK mild-mod. these engineers are really good are modding their EG/EK, hehe..

H22A in CD6/SV4 is not powerful enough, I agree with you. but, put it in EG/EK, it will blow any 4G93T, VR4, even some Evo engines easily. But, jockey kena terror la, have to maintain rpm to maintain VTEC opening. The MIVEC CK9A is an impressive engine, performance at par with 4G93T, but due to heavy body, it seems like it is not impressive, whereas it is in fact impressive.

aja, I think the EG6 H22A kena tapau with Prelude B20B, topB16A, bottom CRV block 2.0, that's why kot, hehehe....

Yah, it's true that Mivec 2nd Gen 1.6m CK/CJ has a better output, just imagine the stock cut-off manual at 8300rpm and the worst thing is the gear ratio is almost or 2% better than CL1!!. :baring_teeth: :baring_teeth: . Got a pomen's friend installed that engine into Satria somewhere around Bukit Kemuning area(donno how he did it), guess what...few turbo/Vtec cars had been tapaued by him. what a shock!!. FYI previously, i used to "raced" with 2-3 eg6 before at karak Hway during balik time with my stock lancer ck that time, not much problems to 'challenge' those eg6 (2 doors), which i suppose should be with B16* inside (judging from the vtec sound & big muffler exhaust).

As a time goes by now, i'l trying to located the previous buyer of my Lancer CK, hoping that he didn't upgrade on the engine (which is most likely not cause the aftermarket parts damn hard to find). or tukar engine...asking to drag test with my H22A. Hopefully can materialised one day.

From my current experience, i used to 'drag'2 with few SV4 few times..of course those SV4 with big muffler which i think it's must be H22A inside as well & those guys asyik dok ram2 the engine. Guess what, CL1 can easily tapau them, left them far2 behind. In fact, i'm also not that good in drag skill. That brought a conclusion to me that the normal H22A is not that impressive. just my piece of experience, tak kacau sapa2 kat sini. kekeke
 
nksc said:
kalo tuka ex. manifold,muffler je..is dat considered as stock?? or stock means doing nothing to da engine?? hu hu

My opinion, stock refers to stock engine, non-mod internal & stock ECU. Modding internal defnitely will resulted to higher whp for sure. External mods such as exhaust, headers is more for cosmetic and not really promise much whp gains. Normally whp gained is really not that material, maybe 1-2hp only (non whp).
 
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hey guys, there's a CF4 sunroof for sale. check it out.

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=100037
 
khairiaz said:
that's why la, eventhough I had sold my CF4 last year, I miss the car still and a lot. however, it was very much indeed a very reluctant sale:cry_smile: :cry_smile: :cry_smile: . kalau tak keje oversea, memang takkan jual punya. mungkin boleh join kau sekarang ni, very exclusive car with very exclusive engine. CF4 is still much a very head-turner car. rugged, sleek, fierce look, especially when sudah fully convert to Euro-R spec, internally and externally. tengok la sekarang ni, in motor trader, very hard to find 2nd hand CF4 nowadays...:cry_smile: :cry_smile: :cry_smile:

apa lagi..balik mesia kang oder la CL1 sejibik..x pon CL7.. :X-: :X-: :X-:

btw..thanks khairiaz & aja for da explainations..
 
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