Blacktop Auto convert to Manual

[AE75]

I just asking for my friend. The Blacktop 20V Auto if convert manual without changing wiring and ECU, will it have any problem later on?

 

[wfhan]

afaik, no prob.

 

[bera]

dont know whether this info are true or not...auto ecu inject more fuel compares to manual ecu...so after conversion maybe abit more power than manual GB + manual ecu...and slightly higher FC of coz...

 

[jack84]

Are u sure or not ?
I am using auto ecu with manual gearbox, but my fc also same with those who use manual ecu with manual gearbox.....

 

[wfhan]

dont know whether this info are true or not...auto ecu inject more fuel compares to manual ecu...so after conversion maybe abit more power than manual GB + manual ecu...and slightly higher FC of coz...

perhaps. definitely fuel map for auto and manual is diff, but diff by how much, only toyota can tell. somemore is "slightly"... maybe more sifus that converted auto-manual can confirm this.
but as long as we manage our right foot, we can counter its effect. :)

talk about FC, over the pass 10 yrs, i drove 2 cars of 1300cc. 2 cars of 1600cc and 1 car of 2000cc, but my FC all are about the same with very very slight diff.. i guess the main factor is our RIGHT FOOT & DRIVING STYLE according to the car/engine behavior..
if u find FC really sucks, then maybe u check out another post about fuel consumption
here -> (link), maybe like levin818 said, ECU aging & start to give erratic signal/readings !?

 

[bera]

yup...i've read it somewhere before...but on minuscule proportion...you wont noticed it all...maybe can tell the different if dynoed the car...

these guys seems to have the same curiousity...
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233780

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thanks again wfhan...i'm kinda lost when trying to explain things in technical terms...what i meant to say before is fuel mapping... :stupid:

but then again it is not a problem to convert from auto to manual using the same ecu (sticking to the main point)

 

[wfhan]

yup.. answer to thread starter : "no prob converting from auto to manual at all"
just convert and enjoy the fun of manual tranny.. :)

 

[AE75]

yup.. answer to thread starter : "no prob converting from auto to manual at all"
just convert and enjoy the fun of manual tranny.. :)

Oh thanks... but if Auto wiring + Manual ECU, does it work too?

 

[meg_omen]

no issue... i've gone thru all...
converted 4AGE BT auto... then changed to 5spd gb, still retain the ecu (and wiring of course)..
now using 6spd ecu...
response better with 6spd ecu... FC roughly the same @ 450++km/full tank...
good luck...:proud:

 

[chinozie]

as long the all the sensors connected, ECU manage to get the reading...it should be fine..
the rest...it's up to the ECU to decide...heee...hey it's a self learning ECU...got a "chipped" brain you know... :proud:

 

[levin818]

No problem at all!
* you can use auto ECU to support manual GB, or
* you can use manual ECU to support auto wiring with manual GB
It is just plug and play.
Fuel consumption is same.

 

[aziziell]

How about silvertop with afm bro wong

 

[levin818]

Unlike BT ECU, Silvertop auto and manual ECU has diff socket so they cannot be plug and play.
However, you can continue using your silvertop auto ECU if convert to manual GB
I have tested both in my car. No significant diff in power and FC between auto and manual ECU.
(My car has a converter so can run either auto or manual ECU)

 

[keciks4t]

Agreed all sifu say :proud::proud:

 

[aziziell]

Unlike BT ECU, Silvertop auto and manual ECU has diff socket so they cannot be plug and play.
However, you can continue using your silvertop auto ECU if convert to manual GB
I have tested both in my car. No significant diff in power and FC between auto and manual ECU.
(My car has a converter so can run either auto or manual ECU)

k thanks

 

[bt_fanboy]

So is that the BT ECU wiring and socket same for both auto and manual?