Automotive technicians save lives with proper technical training

[TOCMalaysia]

i have a strong interest to study dip in motorsport at TOC... but because of a bad comment that the ex students post not only on this page but also on other forums of toc,, have made me think twice, even if i think tenth time i still dont know either ill be studying there or i shud go to other college n study other courses...:hmmmm: n thanks to all the ex student for commenting their experience at TOC

Dear cardsym ix,

First of all, let us thank you for your interest in our Diploma in Motorsport. At the end of the day, it is important that you remember that everyone has their own opinions on things, and ultimately, what and where you want to study is a choice you have to make. =) We are currently the only college in Malaysia offering a motorsport course and we strongly urge you to visit our college if you haven’t done so already. This is just for you to see with your own eyes what TOC has to offer, so that you make an informed choice, whether or not you choose to study here. If you have concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us – head over to our website, or if you’d prefer, call our Sabah office at 088 488 950 or contact our main campus at 03 7955 2811.

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Whoaaa.... 70k for just Diploma ... no need to think twice ... think once only u might notice. I think with that price we can get better DEGREE at private U ...

Dear nafiiio,

Please note that our Diploma in Motorsport Technology is not priced at "RM7Xk". Yes, the fees has increased from 2009 but again, it is only reflective of the investment we put into the facilities. Also, it is important to understand that every course offered is different in the sense of the contents and methods of delivery. TOC promises more practical work than pen and paper type of studying, and this plays a part in the structure of the fees. We at TOC tries our best to constantly update our vehicles and tools for our students to learn with.*

 

[TheActivist]

Hello Everyone and a big hello to TOC..

Well, i'll get straight to the point. By no means have i ever recommended TOC to anyone nor have i ever heard any good feedback from students even before i joined but the truth is the truth. There are many flaws within TOC's management and overall system and by far the most severe is its lack of concern for both its students and *i think* employees well-being. (I notice a moderate turnover rate with TOC's staff. why? i would so love to know)

For example, why does TOC not have a counselor to cater to and help rectify their problems and issues?

why must the rules be so stringent?

if it has to do with the credit hours of each student why not make it 4 weeks per class, and allow slightly more leeway + the counselor to help with certain issues?

I think at the current rate of most student that i know, almost none will complete their course in the projected time mostly due to all these flaws within TOC.

I strongly propose TOC finds a new CEO thats more capable of running an educational institute than dear miss adeline:stupid:. I have no respect for a manager of men that has never met its subordinates, namely us students.

well, good luck TOC and to all aspiring automotive souls, make sure you think long and hard and do ask around before you join TOC.

I can assure you TOC that you have caused many of us more difficulty than ease.

Adios Pendejo

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And by the way TOC, your apologies and excuses does not reimburse us of the Thousands of Ringgit we spend only to fall prey to a system that (as it seems) tries its hardest to "milk" us of our money.

 

[alantan]

Dear TOCMalaysia,

i sent my brother into TOC about 1 1/2 years ago. He enjoy his time spent in TOC because for many years he had a burning passion into cars/automotive in general and not because of your facilities and your philipines tutor(your cheap labour). I'm not racist but it used to be better when they were more experience and well spoken tutor/instructor/lecturer. The issue with the current academic team is the delivery of lessons.

The general group of interest that joined the TOC are mostly ' not well spoken english kids' . Phillipines english for one is different too.

Stop marketing yourself in this manner esp in zth. you did not respond to the comments by others except for the one which is enquiring. that really piss me off.

last but not least, i just think the money paid by the students deserves a better quality of education from the school. your phillipines lecturer is underpaid and overworked. which of course TOC is ignoring la. Good Luck by puting up an ads in zth.

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Another issue with your school is about the attendance regulations. its good to be strict but the parents feels like being cheated.

which MQA regulation did you follow? My MQA regulation did not state the law you have. bottom line, everything is drowned to money and more money.

guys, think harder. there's more automotive school around. no school is the ultimate or the best.

 

[rushdiramli]

its not our fault...dont blame us as a student..

 

[Elemental]

Fees too expensive? Maybe they been spending too much on their advertisement, by selecting the Former F1 driver who used to spun out atleast 2 times at a same corner, and even failed to qualify for race - The only man in F1 history - Alex Yoong.

Diploma in Motorsports Technology - Mind sharing with us, what's TOC greatest achievement so far in motorsports industry?

From the feedback from ur ex-students..TOC looks like those "Paria Lousy Tyre shops which con to survive" that i used to post as a topic. $$$$$$$$$

 

[bongbong10]

YES toc..i know u invest a lot in ur course,facilities and etc...but hey, we as ex toc student nver had change to try or use the dynojet and engine blueprinting..

hmm TOC did u invest in ur MANAGEMENT AND WORKERS?...MANAGEMENT Is bad,why dont invest something or someone to do something about it, and i do agree some people are good and some lazy so( i din complete my C&G diploma level due to have external practical exam which no tutors or people inform us and only told us that only have external exam that is objective and subjective.)

the best of toc i being there so far is getting know new frens, learn the basic of principals automotive..thx TOC..:)

 

[kairigi]

It's not hard to wonder why my friends have all quit and moved to Despark or RIAM in Miri. I've learnt more stuff from the crowd than the college.

As much reasons as your Student Center can give, we have almost more questions for the excuses that your management can supply.

The chameleon R35 owned by someone on top of TOC is having fun roaming around with friends and the best part : Its our money.

It's always about money. Is there no way to see less Ringgit digits and more study quality?

Talking about money, even the Filipino sirs themselves complain about their pay.

 

[Horizon Sailor]

does a TOC still pursuing onto MS ISO standards and regulations..????

 

[DanzEterna]

just learn from sifu's in zth enuf edi, the fees from TOC are rediculous.
go to any workshop, ask for vacancy, start as a workshop assistant & slowly work your way up to sr foreman at least u get paid, but thats not important, the experiences does.... maybe 1 day u will open your workshop.

TOC students mostly end up at service centres, for example proton...hahaha.....wat a joke.

 

[neokenzo]

So everything TOC decides to buy or upgrade something for themselves, they start charging the students for it? Well done.

 

[kairigi]

Rather than spending tens of thousands at TOC, why not spend less than RM10K and go to the States or anywhere and learn from the best.

 

[nagibtanner]

kairigi - you obviously have no idea how much it is to study in the States do you? RM 10 will probably only allow you to fly there. Not even enough to get the visa+accomodation+makan+on-ground travel etc. Lets not even go to the cost of education.

I think you got it all wrong there!

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You know you guys have a lot of complaints and seriously the more the more I think you kids have no idea what you are complaining about. I'd like to see anyone of you become more then jaguh kampungs without good education. And to get good education it cost money, unless you want to sponsor colleges millions of dollars to set up an education facility so you can study there.

You know I had a cousin who wanted to study there, and the fact is I went for a visit. The facilities are great! The people are great! with some exceptions of course but hey who has got the perfect list of staff - please tell me where cause I'd want to give them an award just for being so gooood!

Please lah its annoying to see youngsters complain about something, when they have yet to go through real life and pay taxes. Wait till you have to pay thousands of dollars on tax then you tell us if the education paid of or not.

 

[kairigi]

nagibtanner :

think again before you have something to debate with me. what's so hard about getting to know a workshop who tunes cars and getting the owner to bring you in and educate you?

well maybe not everyone gets that chance but i do. and all for just the flight ticket and some everyday needs. if its not enough then ask for more, or work for it. you dont have to depend on some stupid education center to spoon feed you what you want to learn. it's called EFFORT.

RM10K++ versus RM7XK. THINK.

and dont come crying and making complaints on this thread when your cousin starts to hate it.

anyway just enroll. you judge a book by its cover so start reading the contents. you wouldnt know the taste of poop if you never try

have a nice stay at the Tempat Orang Cacat!

cheers

 

[king_coolice]

nagibtanner:

We'd studied at the college before and we gave our own opinions. Have you studied there before? No, you just VISITED the college ONLY. So there's no way that you can prove us wrong.
Well, just wait and see if your cousin will complaint or not, then come back here and give your comments.

 

[nagibtanner]

kairigi

the fact that you have threatened me "think again before you have something to debate with me", tells me that you are in fact still a child. but if it tickles your fancy, sure do as you wish.

i guess your point about getting a workshop owner to educate you might not be a problem but let me tell you this, you will forever be a "jaguh-kampung". I'd like to see you become a succesfull person in Japan or the States where everyday you have a new challenge in any business.

Secondly, if you have the opportunity to do what you want to do, that's great! Well done! A round of applause and a pat on the back for you. Yes indeed effort is needed no matter what. And please again stand corrected. To study in the States will cost alot more then studying locally. And its not 70+k. So again, do your math, for a person who prides on being good at what you do, you sure have no idea on being realistic - rule no 1 in automotive world.

Lastly, if my cousin chooses to be an baby and complaint I will let him do whatever he wants, ultimately its his life. But I will tell him, instead of complaining, find a positive solution - another rule in the automotive world, something you clearly have no inclination off.

king_coolice

I am not doubting your opinions, I just think what you are complaining about is very childish and unbecoming. Yes ultimately, I will for sure when the time comes. But for all you know, my cousin would be passionate enough to make it work and become really successful.


And for all and both, I promise I will make it a point if things work out for my cousin.

Thanks

 

[king_coolice]

king_coolice

I am not doubting your opinions, I just think what you are complaining about is very childish and unbecoming. Yes ultimately, I will for sure when the time comes. But for all you know, my cousin would be passionate enough to make it work and become really successful.


And for all and both, I promise I will make it a point if things work out for my cousin.

Thanks

nagibtanner,

Did a check back for 3 pages of replies, OOPS, did I complaint about anything? I only praised their marketing skills were great.
I do agree with you that education is very important, but there's other college out there that offer Automotive Courses as well. A right place to study is also important IMO. Well if you think TOC is the right place for you despite all the comments we provide here, go ahead.

When do your cousin start the class? Do let us know how is he progressing. Sincerely, good luck to him.

 

[kairigi]

@nagibtanner
Hahaha. Stop living under a tempurung. No one is being a "jagung/jaguh-kampung" here. This is plainly our prospect and views as a FORMER student. We've tasted their shit and we hate it. You're obliged to taste it anyway :)

@king_coolice

I think this guy is a staff from TOC. He sounds like one of them.

 

[jimmyae101]

just good in big talk....say no1 in malaysia college...did u know what we learn inside college totally different from real world..after college,just can get rm1000 per month as begineer in any good high class who in spreciality in luxury high end car.so what!!!u think u will to driving that car in ur 1st day of work?just follow senior go pick up part bla bla bla...like kuli...termasuk treat them for lunch or tea time if not,u will alone walking for nothing because no one willing to teach u.so what again!!!go lepak around workshop or hide urself in toilet for watching some blue video just load down and smoke...???
it is workshop rule,u think u will be senior position on 1st day working if u got their cert??/totally bullshit....what u should do in workshop is lap ur boss shoe,i think it will help a lot,but u know nothing about car maintenance.just change ur job better to car salesman which it is easy job just neeed sweet talk to earn money.
think over,if u really good in car,go any workshop learn real thing fort few year then join big company for higher pay better that u burn ur parent money at that stupid college?bullshit !!!
money no easy to earn...but easy to spend off

 

[kethon27]

jimmyae101, I have similar thought with you, what is the career path for this after a student finished their studies in such automotive or motorsport college?
If I go study IT or business or graphic (for example), at least I know I can try my luck applying in enterprise or international level company, there goes the career path.
How about automotive? I do not see there are demands in this industry in Malaysia (Correct me if I am wrong).
I have an uncle who owned a garage to fix car,he never enter college and he got his skill learned while working as a mechanic in Hong Kong for few years, in Hong Kong he got the chance to touch variety of continental and Japanese car and the best part is, he bought books from bookstore how to fix some certain car model. Try your luck searching those books in Kinokuniya in KLCC.(Very expensive)

If a automotive college/institute able to produce 1000 students (just a figure) annually, how many are they able to end up in well-known or luxury or high-tech company (Sorry if I don’t get my term correct) like those BMW or Ferrari or Jaguar company?

Parents pay a BIG amount money for their children education and I believe they do not want their children end up at normal servicing garage(shop).
Does foreign countries automotive maker recognize this college certification?

I have a friend also quit from this college halfway and went to another college. Thank goodness the family financial still able to afford on my friend’s decision. How about to those have tight financial?

 

[DanzEterna]

there was a time i called AAM to rectify the problem on my car couple of years back, my had misfiring & i cant find the solution. The AAM mechanic arrived & i told him to check on my car.....meanwhile we chit chat.....he told me he studied in TOC, diploma holder, as i was interested to study there too....finally he told me Ooo my carburator needed to be cleaned & serviced + retune. i said ok how much? he said RM200 all kautime he will do it for me....i said ok la the next few days i will call u if im interested.

next day pulak i went to my frens workshop. i told him the problem, he laughed.
to solution - a loosed cable plug. he pushed it back in & till today no problem.
haha.

i wonder what they teach in TOC?
i guess many of zth forumers are better than those that graduate from there.