Increasing power on Satria 1.3gli

[ravingill]

Hey guys , i want to increase power for my year 2001 satria 1.3gli manual , what can i do to increase power of my current engine , i dont want to change engine or bot . I prefer getting the best from what this 4g13 can give.

So please advise and if possible give pricing and recommended shops that are good with this stuff.

What i want to achieve is :

1. Better pick up
2. Smoother power band through gears
3. Current top speed seems to be around 140km/h , want to increase
4. My suspension is very hard , can feel every gravel and bump on the road , WHY ?

My car is all 100% stock , i also noticed water droplets from my exhaust if i leave the car idle for a while , is this a good sign or bad 1.

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

start with intake and exhaust

 

[camshaft]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

5 years back...when i was using wira 1.3 stock standard..my top speed also only 140...i send it to advance the cam timing...really2 feel the difference...better low end power...and my top speed increase to 160kmh...then change the filter to aftermarket and extractor..also remove the center box...power was better then stock...figure out to change to mivec for more power...but suddenly end up buying another car...hahahaa

 

[damone]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

Water droplets means good sign. Complete combustion. Go for 4-2-1 headers, original piping route, and a silent straight flow ( big tabung). The setup saves fuel, and doesnt stress the engine much as compared to using s-flow.

 

[fred_soo_88]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

few years back my a friend of mine use modded his intake + exhaust system, add a fuel regulator and pivot spark earth and he have a customize high cam and a emanage to control.... his car can overtook any wira 1.6 (m).... around 75-80whp

 

[chimaera1855]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

save the trouble and money and get a better car.

 

[anthenna]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

save the trouble and money and get a better car.

Yes agree. If not enough budget, halfcut. Lagi no budget...

K&N... 4-2-1... those standard stewpig modz. Lol...

 

[ravingill]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

well guys thx for the info , well i dont want to change the car i like the car which is why a bought it, well so i guess going for better intake like k&N or simota performance filter will be good and also a 4-2-1 header with straight flow exhaust.

By the way how do i advance the cam timing, as said by bro camshaft , can recomend the place u did this and price, thx bro.

Bro chimaera1855 , i always see the ornage tvr in ur avatar in bangsar , is that ur ride , and u live around bangsar.

 

[Zidane]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

Bro, your specifications is not that specific. Eg, you want to increase top speed until????

Whatever you do to modify a 1.3, is still a 1.3.

I own a 1.3 wira, the mods that i've done are:
1. Skim flywheel
2. Exhaust
3. Upgrade the brake servo and disc brakes.

The other simple mod that you can do is the air filter.

It is not the fastest wira 1.3 but it is smooth and qiuck response at the traffic lights

 

[ravingill]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

true bro , i dun wan be crazy fast the car is too light i just want smooth power and good response at traffic lights , feels sluggish for pick up bro , my top speed is arnd 140km/h , i want to get at least 170-180.

My car is still stock , shall i get a 4-2-1 header first , and leave the rest of the exhaust system stock. And also a performance air filter

 

[xtremeboost]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

replace to twin carb....

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

true bro , i dun wan be crazy fast the car is too light i just want smooth power and good response at traffic lights , feels sluggish for pick up bro , my top speed is arnd 140km/h , i want to get at least 170-180.

My car is still stock , shall i get a 4-2-1 header first , and leave the rest of the exhaust system stock. And also a performance air filter

Go for the piping as well... it helps much better. Ex: if your throat is 2 inches wide but the rest of your intestines are what, 1.5 inches still theres a restriction .

Air filter also get ori! Pirated ones dont filter so well. :rolleyes:

 

[camshaft]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

i dont know where in kl..but most reputable workshop can set the timing of the cam...they will loosened up the engine belt...and calculate the degree of the cam pulley and the crank...then they will pull the cam pulley to the desire degree...make sure they done it properly...and with tools...not just by guessing...

 

[Izso]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

Zidane : 4G13 gearbox ratio is shorter, so pickup is definitely better.

Adjust cam timing or ignition timing? Only MMC can adjust ignition timing. Siemens one can't be done unless you overwrite the ECU with a piggyback.

ravingill : You want power? Then you better have a big budget.

1. Bore your cylinders and stroke
2. Larger valves
3. Lightening and blueprinting
4. Balancing and port and polish
5. High compression custom pistons
6. Matching exhaust setup
7. Fuel pump upgrade
8. If your car is a carbie, WEBER!
9. Performance camshafts
10. Standalone ECU / piggy back ECU
11. Advance / retard ignition timing for lower / higher end power

Er.. can't think of anything else. Probably missing a lotta things. By the time you're done doing all that, you probably would have spent a small fortune enough to buy you a new engine.

 

[yeehau86]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

4. My suspension is very hard , can feel every gravel and bump on the road , WHY ?

perhaps your stock suspension has worn out whereby the absorbers have stopped functioning, therefore you can feel it is more bumpy now. It is time for you to change your suspension, perhaps this is a good opportunity to get a sports suspension. Or if you prefer comfort, you can stick back to stock suspension.

 

[aalto]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

If you want performance at no cost......lighten car!

Trow out back seats,spare tire & speaker boards...etc

oh...and dont forget the driver.....exercise every day a to reduce 10kg....LOL..

 

[PocketRocket]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

eh? didn't you want to sell ur car? congrats! mod it

=D

 

[ravingill]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

Well thanx for the inputs guys , when u guys say ori air filter means original brands like K&N and Simota or original proton air filter. I am getting drop in type by the way.

Well i guess il go with full 4-2-1 header and full piping with straight flow muffler , any idea what is the best piping size , 1.7 inch ok !!

Yea i ralise the 4G13 gearbox has betetr gear ratio compared to 4G15.

Will this mods help my car -

1. bosch performance plug cables and bosch super 4 plugs
2. Original pivot raizin volt stabilizer
3. Change gearbox oil (manual)
4. Change new suspension using stock suspension for comfort
5, Adjustable cam pulley and lighten crank pulley


I am currently using castrol magnatec 10w-40 semi synthetic, any comments on this oil.

 

[Izso]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

Dump the oil and go for Motul. Magnatec is questionable....

1. bosch performance plug cables and bosch super 4 plugs
2. Original pivot raizin volt stabilizer
3. Change gearbox oil (manual)
4. Change new suspension using stock suspension for comfort
5, Adjustable cam pulley and lighten crank pulley

1. Not really gonna give you lots of bang for buck. Extremely marginal difference.
2. Also extremely marginal. Get it with the grounding kit though. Some say the Pivot Megarazin is better. Costs a helluva lot more too.
3. Change gearbox oil to Motul
4. If you're gonna change suspension, try Improve Comfort + stock springs. It's a reasonable compromise between stock comfort and performance + it's not all that expensive.
5. On a SOHC, adjustable cam pulley is not really worth the investment unless you're using a performance camshaft like Matspeed. Lightened crank pulley make sure you get the Mythelogy one. Overly small and you'll suffer uphill.

 

[dorift0]

Re: Increasing power on Satira 1.3gli

1+2 costs about 250-300 in total, dont waste your time in it, get yourself a aerospeed LCP for about 250-300, that will improve your engine respond.