Mods for non mivec 1.3 satria (Budget later we talk la)

[mag9556]

use ACL or King bearings? hehe

what I know is my friend use ACL new bearing nearly all burn off after back from dyno
Dont know why also

 

[sanekit]

what I know is my friend use ACL new bearing nearly all burn off after back from dyno
Dont know why also

dang.. maybe the bearing clearance not checked properly or oil starvation?

 

[mag9556]

dang.. maybe the bearing clearance not checked properly or oil starvation?

maybe since ask him he said the engine not yet smooth after refurbish the internal to new parts.
piston ring also nearly boiled

 

[parakey]

maybe since ask him he said the engine not yet smooth after refurbish the internal to new parts.
piston ring also nearly boiled

So he knew the engine wasnt in good condition and yet he went for dyno?

 

[mag9556]

So he knew the engine wasnt in good condition and yet he went for dyno?

really dont know d.. maybe he thought all new internal is ok to go for dyno? before send to dyno he already thinking is there any problem since engine just running 300km and he also scared that engine will blown is didn't got for dyno..

 

[LimauKanker]

I believe it is just a case of badly build engine, did his mech measure the bearing clearance with plastigauge? there are too many variables, could be rod cap bolt failure as most people reuse them instead of replacing them.

 

[mag9556]

I believe it is just a case of badly build engine, did his mech measure the bearing clearance with plastigauge? there are too many variables, could be rod cap bolt failure as most people reuse them instead of replacing them.

he is a foreman actually, he said all internal are new that he also feel wired how come like that..
he ask his friend to drive for dyno and that fellow had elephant leg..
maybe his elephant leg fried off the bearing cant imagine from sunway to botanic klang less 15 minutes at afternoon, really dont know how fast he drive

 

[LimauKanker]

he is a foreman actually, he said all internal are new that he also feel wired how come like that..
he ask his friend to drive for dyno and that fellow had elephant leg..
maybe his elephant leg fried off the bearing cant imagine from sunway to botanic klang less 15 minutes at afternoon, really dont know how fast he drive

not to make your friend look bad, just stating the truth, many foreman can maintain and overhaul an engine, the sad fact is not even a handful can properly build an engine to spec. many dont measure and spec engines individually which i also understand that it take up too much time.

heck even the place im going couldn't do that, and GT auto/ AHM dont even use a sterile engine room. it is quite stressful to see my engine being build in a workshop common area and no full blueprinting and documentation. but oh well, i can't afford 5 figures labour, i get what i paid for. hahaha

 

[parakey]

he ask his friend to drive for dyno and that fellow had elephant leg..

Regardless of elephant leg or not, dyno is stressful for the engine. So that shouldn't matter. If he ask the friend for a favor, then he shouldn't blame him.

 

[mag9556]

Regardless of elephant leg or not, dyno is stressful for the engine. So that shouldn't matter. If he ask the friend for a favor, then he shouldn't blame him.

well he did not blame anyone just sad in heart and pocket...
after dyno plus fast in highway.. bearing become fried chicken lo..

 

[parakey]

I believe it is just a case of badly build engine.

What he said

 

[marsha1l_v6]

what I know is my friend use ACL new bearing nearly all burn off after back from dyno
Dont know why also

probably clearance..if oil starvation bearing bleh pusing iinm..hahaha

.should have run in more or atleast change EO before going dyno.

my engine recently being rebuild and pampered my car to drive below 4k rpm for first 500km. Then did EO change, it was soo black. another 500km still on mineral oil but drive normally but most of the time i try to drive high rpm where possible. After 500km+ another EO change but this time i pour in my preferred EO. Then went on to dyno. No problem.

Another quick way is run in on dyno but need to pay extra for the additional hour(s) spend.

 

[mag9556]

probably clearance..if oil starvation bearing bleh pusing iinm..hahaha

.should have run in more or atleast change EO before going dyno.

my engine recently being rebuild and pampered my car to drive below 4k rpm for first 500km. Then did EO change, it was soo black. another 500km still on mineral oil but drive normally but most of the time i try to drive high rpm where possible. After 500km+ another EO change but this time i pour in my preferred EO. Then went on to dyno. No problem.

Another quick way is run in on dyno but need to pay extra for the additional hour(s) spend.

Ya same as what i am thinking since engine oil become KFC oil after few time used, well for me i will try 1000km for safe side to prevent any

 

[HuiChen]

not to make your friend look bad, just stating the truth, many foreman can maintain and overhaul an engine, the sad fact is not even a handful can properly build an engine to spec. many dont measure and spec engines individually which i also understand that it take up too much time.

heck even the place im going couldn't do that, and GT auto/ AHM dont even use a sterile engine room. it is quite stressful to see my engine being build in a workshop common area and no full blueprinting and documentation. but oh well, i can't afford 5 figures labour, i get what i paid for. hahaha

ya, i also think not many people can able to proper build engine that can follow original factory spec.

but you say the place you are going couldnt do that, then how you make sure that your engine spec is correct? you dont care and just drive after you fix or you got way to check? i am also interested to know how to make sure engine is build following to spec

 

[LimauKanker]

ya, i also think not many people can able to proper build engine that can follow original factory spec.

but you say the place you are going couldnt do that, then how you make sure that your engine spec is correct? you dont care and just drive after you fix or you got way to check? i am also interested to know how to make sure engine is build following to spec

they can do up to factory spec, just that i will be there to help out and keep and eye on the process, to make sure every steps (i read in tech article) are done properly.

There are a bit of engineering going on with a built engine, have to figure out and solve it, cut a bit here and there, send this and that to machine shop to get it sorted and fit, figuring hose routing and things, calculating actual compression ratio vs theoretical compression ratio, information gathering such as emailing to ARP for further consultation on their studs, bolts and whatsnot's yield and stretch specs, should i use more torque than factory, all those small details la.

Common thing people dont really care is you cannot stretch your studs too many times/too much, have to shim/deshim your oil pump to get optimal pressure (pressure =/= flow), how to clean stuff up properly, make sure no metal flakes residue (apply to a blown engine), your piston ring gap to application.

Even cylinder bore cross hatch will affect your oil consumption

 

[LimauKanker]

Another quick way is run in on dyno but need to pay extra for the additional hour(s) spend.

yup, just strap the car onto a dyno and keep loading the car at 3k rpm, safest and fastest method. usually i use 2 days(about 3-4 hours each night driving around) to rack up 1000km on the road.

 

[sanekit]

maybe since ask him he said the engine not yet smooth after refurbish the internal to new parts.
piston ring also nearly boiled

walao.. so brave go dyno sumore. hahaha

 

[sanekit]

they can do up to factory spec, just that i will be there to help out and keep and eye on the process, to make sure every steps (i read in tech article) are done properly.

There are a bit of engineering going on with a built engine, have to figure out and solve it, cut a bit here and there, send this and that to machine shop to get it sorted and fit, figuring hose routing and things, calculating actual compression ratio vs theoretical compression ratio, information gathering such as emailing to ARP for further consultation on their studs, bolts and whatsnot's yield and stretch specs, should i use more torque than factory, all those small details la.

Common thing people dont really care is you cannot stretch your studs too many times/too much, have to shim/deshim your oil pump to get optimal pressure (pressure =/= flow), how to clean stuff up properly, make sure no metal flakes residue (apply to a blown engine), your piston ring gap to application.

Even cylinder bore cross hatch will affect your oil consumption

most mech dont have time to go through all that. and our mechs dont get paid by the hour. also, good workshop always have damn long queue... need to set appointment date just to send in your car. that is if the slot not full until end of the year. hahahaha

 

[HuiChen]

they can do up to factory spec, just that i will be there to help out and keep and eye on the process, to make sure every steps (i read in tech article) are done properly.

There are a bit of engineering going on with a built engine, have to figure out and solve it, cut a bit here and there, send this and that to machine shop to get it sorted and fit, figuring hose routing and things, calculating actual compression ratio vs theoretical compression ratio, information gathering such as emailing to ARP for further consultation on their studs, bolts and whatsnot's yield and stretch specs, should i use more torque than factory, all those small details la.

Common thing people dont really care is you cannot stretch your studs too many times/too much, have to shim/deshim your oil pump to get optimal pressure (pressure =/= flow), how to clean stuff up properly, make sure no metal flakes residue (apply to a blown engine), your piston ring gap to application.

Even cylinder bore cross hatch will affect your oil consumption

thank you for telling out. it looks very professional to do all of this things here but im not sure what workshop is willing to do all this work.

you know a lot of details things on engine building. are you a engineer or mechanic?

 

[LimauKanker]

most mech dont have time to go through all that. and our mechs dont get paid by the hour. also, good workshop always have damn long queue... need to set appointment date just to send in your car. that is if the slot not full until end of the year. hahahaha

exactly, that's the sad thing, even if i wanted to pay for it, no one is available to do to such level. It is either the skills level, time or pay.

not enough salary lead to laziness lead to not doing all this thing in the long run lead to rusty skills. even if someone want to do it, i will still doubt it, unless im participating in the building process.

on the other hand, can spend 6 figures, send it to UK or Australia for a proper engine rebuild in a sterile engine room with blueprinting until the smallest of the fastener and full tech specs. i can run in WTAC already. hahaha

thank you for telling out. it looks very professional to do all of this things here but im not sure what workshop is willing to do all this work.

you know a lot of details things on engine building. are you a engineer or mechanic?

non that i know of, even the most professional workshop i know of, do not practice what most professional engine builder do. you can go youtube and watch High Performance Academy for more example of how in-depth they can go into just to build an engine.

There're a lot of information online nowadays, only have to take some time to read and digest it. i am sure most people here know more than me, im still learning; hard.
nah, im not engineer or mechanic, im just a limau kaffir, i make great refreshing and thirst quenching drinks.