LesleyAprotto

[TitanRev]

*Updated 6 Dec 2012

added point
*My apology to all the ZTH forummers for all this, reason I created this thread is to avoid Lesley from causing all the other thread becoming his punching bag. I rather have him here posting than kacau all the other threads.


Actually I didn't have the mood to go create a thread for such an un-constructive member on such an un-constructive matters but seeing that you have no respect to anyone who shared information with you...I have to step up..and in times, have to go down and get myself dirty to deliver the message.

Who started the fire and insult 1st?? and flare up when proper discussion was underway? Read back the below thread from page 1. I won't care much nor give a damn how you want to bad mouth about me in other threads.

Like I said in 1 of the post at the below thread when you got all fired up not even pass page 2 of the discussion.
"
....when 1 decide to debate or discuss a topic...emotional stuff should be put aside and the mind should be clear....discuss the matter like an adult....also no one here is carrying another person's ball...."

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car-talk/422672-real-economy-petrol-or-diesel-car.html

People sharing information, experience, knowledge and you say they are ball carriers? idiots? laugh at them? I'm not here looking for a fist fight with you but rather have you understand and show some respect to people who are willingly to share knowledge with you on a forum. You said others insulted you but when you throw the 1st stone did you care about how they feel? and now you complain why I'm not taking action to those who slap you back....because I wanted you to have a taste of your own medicine...

You can say what ever double standard I'm doing but I have no obligation to report what ever I do to you since you are not my superior. I've been a forumer here long enough to know those who genuinely wants to discuss, share information from those who just want to make trouble.

Just look at yourself.....if you can't handle the heat then don't start the flame, after get burned then whine like a small kid that you getting bullied or whack.
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...ter-coming-to-800-000km-3.html#post1064195350

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...sel-not-good-for-starex-2.html#post1064195001

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...y-petrol-or-diesel-car-11.html#post1064193938

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...ing-kuala-lipis-excursion.html#post1064193921

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...ing-kuala-lipis-excursion.html#post1064193855

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...sel-not-good-for-starex-2.html#post1064192001

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car-talk/423047-wira-diesel-3.html#post1064191999

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...-2t-as-petrol-additives-4.html#post1064173598

You can shoot all you want here Lesley..save you the trouble of posting nonsense in every other thread and causing ZTH reputation to go down and bad mouth me here and there....you can even call in the cavalry to help you shoot me...I don't even need to use a single rude, foul words against you...can you?

*updated 6 Dec 2012
After numerous attempts to make LesleyAprotto understand, He now resort to threatening....

 

[LesleyAprotto]

Actually I didn't have the mood to go create a thread for such an un-constructive member on such an un-constructive matters but seeing that you have no respect to anyone who shared information with you...I have to step up..and in times, have to go down and get myself dirty to deliver the message.



You can shoot all you want here Lesley..save you the trouble of posting nonsense in every other thread and causing ZTH reputation to go down and bad mouth me here and there....you can even call in the cavalry to help you shoot me...I don't even need to use a single rude, foul words against you...can you?

First of all, I am not looking for trouble...

I just wanted a fair and open and discussion with truth and facts..

I hate forumers who lied and bluff and come argue with me...

Also you said i can shoot all i want here but i doubt your sincerity, u have taken too personal.

You used your mod power to give me 5 pts, and closed the thread because you foresee that the diesel group got no more grounds to debate after i exposed your frens fake comparison.

Other forumers also came out to tell the problems of diesel cars with local diesels in other threads,
So this diesel breakdown do exist, unlike what you all argue its not connected to diesel

You only had km/litre advantage left for your arguement so in order to save yourself the shame and also partly covering your frens cheats on the second hand value comparison you quickly closed the thread, so that it will eventually sink and hidden...

The moral of the story is that if you want to win, and also save the BlackOwl from being embarassed, you can pm me and i will give way....

Another question i would like to put forward is that why are you accusing me of name calling and insulting other members when YOU YOURSELF POSTED VULGAR WORDS LIKE..

OH YES! FUCK ME!

in the petrol-diesel thread page 9 on the 10th column?

to insult me!

ON THE OTHER HAND YOU ALSO MENTION THAT I BRING DOWN THE ZEROTO HUNDRED REPUTATION!

NOW WHO IS BRINGING DOWN THE REPUTATION HERE?

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Looks like this unfair mod, with high ego will ban me soon....

Because what i said is the truth and the truth sucks for him...

Lastly, i would like to thank Tom for being a kind host and other forumers for their sympathies and support throughout my presence...

I will be at VR2TURBO favourite forum...

Cheers to everyone.....:cheers::flowers::aetsch:

 

[peeche]

stop being kiddos.. you wont get any award for it. just fogive each other. that's it.

 

[LesleyAprotto]

stop being kiddos.. you wont get any award for it. just fogive each other. that's it.

Dear peeche,

Im not being kiddo...

Why should i apologize when im being insulted by TR mod and his frens with....

OH YES! FUCK ME! captions and PENIS dummy named after me?

Just because he is mod and mod frens its perfectly OK and I cannot complain about it?

So you guys out there!

You have seen what happened, and take good care of yourself in this place, whatever they discuss just agree even when they are wrong, otherwise you will end up like me! :wavey:

If they really have balls like a gentleman, they would not delete this to cover their shit!

 

[abunawas]

instead of starting another ugly thread like this, why not just ban him? seriously, this thread is a waste of time.

 

[LesleyAprotto]

instead of starting another ugly thread like this, why not just ban him? seriously, this thread is a waste of time.

No i dont think its a waste of time

It points out for everyone to see what this mod TR and mods fren BLACKOWL did to me !

And going to do the same to others as well, when you dont become their YES MAN !

Hope Tom sees the whole picture of it!

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/03/19/Facepalm_610x381.jpg

 

[BLaCkHoWLiNG]

It's just so funny how things are going. Nevermind. Hey les, i wanna do a dinner with u la.. as an appreciation dinner. Come see me at A&W this friday in PJ. Come la ... come. It's an open invitation.

Make sure you come

Don't worry. No benglas will be there.

I wanna bring this discussion off line as it's of no value to other members to see your childish bickering.

If u want to continue this slandering here, I will table this case up to the mods to do what's necessary.

You have been warned.

 

[TitanRev]

Lesley, you like to do selective reading aren't you? you skip my question just like you skip postings in your own thread.

Please answer me the below from my 1st posting.

Who started the fire and insult 1st?? and flare up when proper discussion was underway? Read back the below thread from page 1. I won't care much nor give a damn how you want to bad mouth about me in other threads.

Like I said in 1 of the post at the below thread when you got all fired up not even pass page 2 of the discussion.
"
....when 1 decide to debate or discuss a topic...emotional stuff should be put aside and the mind should be clear....discuss the matter like an adult....also no one here is carrying another person's ball...."

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforu...iesel-car.html

If a diesel owner does not experienced what you mention, example constant break down, high maintenance..HOW in the world you would expect him/her to say diesel is problematic? Go and read back all the post....we share our real experience.

I choose to closed the thread not to save someone but seeing that the discussion has gone down the drain with fire everywhere...I didn't even delete a single post from you in the thread because I want it to be transparent so that others could see for themselves. If I want to make myself like a hero or cover up...I would have deleted all your posting faster than you know it. I also clearly mention that:

"Thread will only be re-opened if proper and fair discussion is guaranteed by TS. If not, I will issue a forum advisory on TS to warn others forumers in this forum. Thank you."

Lesley, please do not pretend or act like you are a victim of this whole thing and drag in other people to help you justify, typical immature individual will do like this. Plus you don't need to highlight your words in red or bold or make it bigger.

Chances and advice was given to you beforehand. Did you took my advice not to get emotional in that particular thread?

 

[LesleyAprotto]

It's just so funny how things are going. Nevermind. Hey les, i wanna do a dinner with u la.. as an appreciation dinner. Come see me at A&W this friday in PJ. Come la ... come. It's an open invitation.

Make sure you come

Don't worry. No benglas will be there.

I wanna bring this discussion off line as it's of no value to other members to see your childish bickering.

If u want to continue this slandering here, I will table this case up to the mods to do what's necessary.

You have been warned.

What slandering?

Are you trying to say that you didnt post that dummy penis and put my name on it?

Or im creating an false allegation to fix you up?.

BlackOwl better you ask your moddy fren to delete first, then you can accuse me of slandering you...

For your easy to find its at

Real Economy- Petrol or Diesel Car thread, its in page 10, column no 5.

Dont expect me to come, frankly i dont believe you at all, what happened to the last PJ TT session?
You posted that you wanted to stay home and F*** and didnt turn up...
Dont you think you are wasting many other peoples time?:stupid:

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Lesley, you like to do selective reading aren't you? you skip my question just like you skip postings in your own thread.

Please answer me the below from my 1st posting.

Who started the fire and insult 1st?? and flare up when proper discussion was underway? Read back the below thread from page 1. I won't care much nor give a damn how you want to bad mouth about me in other threads.

Like I said in 1 of the post at the below thread when you got all fired up not even pass page 2 of the discussion.
"
....when 1 decide to debate or discuss a topic...emotional stuff should be put aside and the mind should be clear....discuss the matter like an adult....also no one here is carrying another person's ball...."

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforu...iesel-car.html

If a diesel owner does not experienced what you mention, example constant break down, high maintenance..HOW in the world you would expect him/her to say diesel is problematic? Go and read back all the post....we share our real experience.

I choose to closed the thread not to save someone but seeing that the discussion has gone down the drain with fire everywhere...I didn't even delete a single post from you in the thread because I want it to be transparent so that others could see for themselves. If I want to make myself like a hero or cover up...I would have deleted all your posting faster than you know it. I also clearly mention that:

"Thread will only be re-opened if proper and fair discussion is guaranteed by TS. If not, I will issue a forum advisory on TS to warn others forumers in this forum. Thank you."

Lesley, please do not pretend or act like you are a victim of this whole thing and drag in other people to help you justify, typical immature individual will do like this. Plus you don't need to highlight your words in red or bold or make it bigger.

Chances and advice was given to you beforehand. Did you took my advice not to get emotional in that particular thread?

But somehow or rather, I think its NOT me being emotional, its YOU!

I just pointed out the cheats made by BLACKOWL and wanted others to know the truth about his cheats by comparing a 2 door with a 4 door & and a M-spec with a normal BMW

You just reacted and close the thread soon it will sink to page 2 and its a coverup so that you and your pro diesel debaters whom rather bluff and give false info to other zenthians looks good and the whole scam being swept under the carpet!

So if you all dont want to discuss it with facts, say so, i dont have to waste my time with you guys here!

Its very clearcut ive being victimised here, anyone whom read my threads can see it !

BTW you havent answer my question to you....

DONT YOU THINK YOU POSTED OH YES! FUCK ME CAPTION IS AN INSULT TO ME?

Wonder if there will be any action against you by other mod ?

Also DO YOU THINK THAT MY NAME CALLING (IDIOT) TO THOSE WHOM POST STUPID REMARKS WARRANT AN INFACTION ?

Why not we start a new thread....

WHICH IS A MORE SERIOUS OFFENCE? Posting the caption OH YES! FUCK ME! or IDIOT ?

 

[peeche]

yes.. it's kiddos. i makes me feel queasy whenever BOTH of you Titan and Lesley start to ruined the whole discussion with sarcastic words. and i'm sure there's a lot of members that feels the same way too. kindly be professional, be tolerate, learn to give and accept forgiveness.

 

[TitanRev]

Me..emo?? I wonder who said want to change the topic, putting exclamation mark all over a post, those thumb down emoticons and start calling people ball carriers in the 1st place.

Read all the postings by you.
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...nomy-petrol-or-diesel-car.html#post1064177375

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...nomy-petrol-or-diesel-car.html#post1064178609

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...my-petrol-or-diesel-car-2.html#post1064179548

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...my-petrol-or-diesel-car-2.html#post1064179856

My postings
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...nomy-petrol-or-diesel-car.html#post1064178249

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...my-petrol-or-diesel-car-2.html#post1064178691

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...my-petrol-or-diesel-car-2.html#post1064179958

Who's the emo one?

The meme cartoons....and the fapping one....just to let you have a taste of your own medicine...read my 1st top post in this thread. Since you don't care how people feel and respect people. Why should I.

Please have some self control when posting in public forum. I see also want to puke. Jealous like you said? should I?
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...my-petrol-or-diesel-car-9.html#post1064191970

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

 

[TitanRev]

yes.. it's kiddos. i makes me feel queasy whenever BOTH of you Titan and Lesley start to ruined the whole discussion with sarcastic words. and i'm sure there's a lot of members that feels the same way too. kindly be professional, be tolerate, learn to give and accept forgiveness.

It was a good discussion thread until someone decided to get angry...advice given but it was not taken. Thread starter decided to go on keep getting the situation worst. I can choose to delete all his post but in the end another topic will pop out saying Moderators are biased and power hungry. Ban him, and we moderators get the bad name from people who does not really knows the whole picture clearly.
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...my-petrol-or-diesel-car-3.html#post1064180850
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...my-petrol-or-diesel-car-4.html#post1064181257

My apology to you peeche and the others. I created this thread to avoid Lesley from causing all the other thread becoming his punching bag. I rather have him here posting than kacau all the other thread.

 

[kcng]

edit:
acknowledge on this...

contents removed...

 

[TitanRev]

kcng, leave that out since he did that on another forumer's profile not on public posting. If felt uncomfortable the profile owner can report the message and action will be taken.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

By reading the thread alone, is obvious that everyone would understand where the problem came from and who was the real
problem in that thread. It was fun discussing Petrol vs Diesel, but then everything went haywire

 

[peeche]

It was a good discussion thread until someone decided to get angry...advice given but it was not taken. Thread starter decided to go on keep getting the situation worst.
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...my-petrol-or-diesel-car-3.html#post1064180850
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...s: it will be better than any other decision.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

i'am following the thread.. different people comes with different opinion. this is what happen when discussion comes to debate.
but not nice laa blaming each other. if a person win the situation, the one who lose will feel bad.
nevermind, just forget the past. apologize each other..
it will be better than any other decision.

Agree with you that the one who lose will feel bad or shame, which is why till date, the
discussion became a debate, debate became an argument or just blindly defending
oneself. All sort of personal attacks even unrelated also just blast out in the posts.

 

[TitanRev]

peeche, you are spot on different people different views...this has been my guideline when it comes to posting on discussion and debate. It's not the matter of winning. I treasure more on information sharing and learning from each other. If not I would have not contributed my knowledge to the forum. In forms of DIY, tech talk...etc...

But when one share his/her opinion, or real experience, we should be grateful and show respect. Why? because he/she has gone through something we might not have. That's is what a forum is all about sharing one's experience and know how to others and not calling people with bad names when they share. It's like you share a pie with a friend and that friend don't respect you and start name calling you. How would the feelings be?

I can forget the pass after a night sleep and I hold no grudge in the forum.