wut is the best tyre size for myvi??

[OKLY]

Yea need to scout around.

By the way, anyone knows if let's say I add a brake caliper cover, would it somehow disturb the wheel balancing and I'll need to redo balancing again?

 

[vr2turbo]

Also another thing, if a tires are not run-in 100% yet, will there be any effects like vibrations?

Yup, sometimes can become better......for me it does.....

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Yea need to scout around.

By the way, anyone knows if let's say I add a brake caliper cover, would it somehow disturb the wheel balancing and I'll need to redo balancing again?

If you have done on wheel balancing, it may require balancing again, if you remove the wheels out to fit the cover. If you do not want to balance again, ask the guy taking out the wheels, to mark and place the wheels back into the same lug holes. This is because on wheel balances the shafts and everything connected. By shifting the lug holes the weight may be different. Has happened to me before. Now, I try to do off wheel balancing, this way the wheels need not be marked....

You can try Kee Hin is Old Klang Road. Weng Tat in Subang. Weng Tat and Quicksave are opened today (Sunday) but until 3pm only. Weng Tat maybe 4pm...

 

[OKLY]

Yup, sometimes can become better......for me it does.....

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If you have done on wheel balancing, it may require balancing again, if you remove the wheels out to fit the cover. If you do not want to balance again, ask the guy taking out the wheels, to mark and place the wheels back into the same lug holes. This is because on wheel balances the shafts and everything connected. By shifting the lug holes the weight may be different. Has happened to me before. Now, I try to do off wheel balancing, this way the wheels need not be marked....

You can try Kee Hin is Old Klang Road. Weng Tat in Subang. Weng Tat and Quicksave are opened today (Sunday) but until 3pm only. Weng Tat maybe 4pm...

Didn't know Quicksave is open on Sunday, did a bit of searching and they did not mention that they are open on Sunday. So I ended up going to Lim Tayar in SS2 since it's nearer to my place too and they redo the off-wheel balance for me first (RM9 per tire). At the moment, there's still vibration so I think I may need on-wheel balancing, at a shop with good reputation for alignment and balancing.

I think before I do on-wheel balancing, I should let my tires run-in more and see if it helps or not. Around what mileage max (to consider that the run-in period is almost over) before I should straight go do my on-wheel balancing already?

1 more thing, as this is my first time on a lower profile tires, I really do not know how much vibration I should expect to be considered normal. A quick research led me to find out that lower profile tires tend to give more vibration as it gives more road feedback so as for our Malaysian road condition, the rough road may cause the vibration also. So what I need to know is how much vibration will be considered normal?

 

[vr2turbo]

Quicksave normally do not open on Sundays. Near the bigger festive season like Hari Raya, Maybe X'mas and CNY he will open on 2 Sundays before the holidays, then he also closed longer for the holidays too. Something to compensate his long closure.....
So this & Next Sunday he will be opened.
Lower profile tyres should not vibrate too when they are in balance. I am using 45 series and they are okay.
Lim Tayar, I have heard the camber thing from other forums also.....looks like many places doing it.....

 

[OKLY]

Quicksave normally do not open on Sundays. Near the bigger festive season like Hari Raya, Maybe X'mas and CNY he will open on 2 Sundays before the holidays, then he also closed longer for the holidays too. Something to compensate his long closure.....
So this & Next Sunday he will be opened.
Lower profile tyres should not vibrate too when they are in balance. I am using 45 series and they are okay.
Lim Tayar, I have heard the camber thing from other forums also.....looks like many places doing it.....

So Quicksave does a decent job for alignment and balancing right? If so then I'll have them check mine.

After doing off-wheel balancing at Lim Tayar, it does seem that steering vibration seems to have improved but still will have when above 140km/h. Also if the floor of my car can feel the vibration, it's probably coming from the rear tires is it?

P/S: Anyone knows if Raydiance Wheels in Sunway Mentari does decent alignment and balancing job? Link

 

[vr2turbo]

I have done a few times at Quicksave without problems, but then my wheels, tyres and car are different. You seems to be running around paying for the balancing. Why not stay with say Lim Tayar as you have already paid them so they have to rectify the vibration.
Yes, if the car body vibrates as high speed, probably is the rear wheels out of balance.

 

[OKLY]

Well that day at Lim Tayar I only did off-wheel balancing as recommended by them to try first. He said on-wheel will be done if problem persists so I suppose I will need to do on-wheel balancing this time. That's why I'm looking for a shop with experienced alignment/balancing foreman to solve my problem.

 

[zamrioo2]

Anyway, balancing actually need some skills. If that person not so skilful or experienced, there will still be vibration.

yup... it happened to me on my LSD gearbox... LSD gb is more difficult to balancing... they have to compensate left n right tire several times to get accurate balance... i owned the car for 6 years with 4 years of vibration at 120km/j... another 2 years cruise in happiness

 

[vr2turbo]

I presume you have been driving at 110kmh for 4 years, or over 120kmh.......

 

[OKLY]

I have done a few times at Quicksave without problems, but then my wheels, tyres and car are different. You seems to be running around paying for the balancing. Why not stay with say Lim Tayar as you have already paid them so they have to rectify the vibration.
Yes, if the car body vibrates as high speed, probably is the rear wheels out of balance.

But since I've tried off-wheel balance at another shop, I think I would like to head over to an experienced shop to do my on-wheel balancing.

Oh and 1 more thing, if there is a problem with the new rims or tires, they'll be able to see it through off-wheel balancing already?

 

[vr2turbo]

Last time without the center cone, I was having problems with my balancing also. Do off wheel, still vibrate, so go back and complaint then they do on wheel, but I don't pay extra, saying it is their problem they did not rectify the first time......

 

[OKLY]

Oh at Lim Tayar, the foreman already tell me beforehand, he said to try off-wheel first because it is cheaper. He said if problem still persist then need to come back for on-wheel balancing so I suppose they are prepared to charge me already. So now looking for an experienced workshop to do it for me.

So usually for most cases, if off-wheel doesn't solve it then on-wheel will probably solve it? If both doesn't the problem is definitely somewhere else right?

 

[vr2turbo]

So far last time on wheel can solve (for me that is), but I don't like, because every time do repairs to brakes or anything that requires removing the wheel, sometimes start to vibrate again, even though fit back to same lug holes.....

 

[OKLY]

So far last time on wheel can solve (for me that is), but I don't like, because every time do repairs to brakes or anything that requires removing the wheel, sometimes start to vibrate again, even though fit back to same lug holes.....

Yea, I can't think of anything wrong except for the rims/tires because the car is still considerably new, about 3 months old only. However, I believe that sometimes doing a wheel balancing will require few times to get it right as well because maybe the foreman couldn't get it accurate the first time?

So as long as the tires are left untouched, then on-wheel balancing will last until someone removes the tires like for rotation etc?

I'm considering to give Raydiance Wheels in Sunway Mentari a try because they have this don't know what 3D alignment/balancing machine and so on. Thing is don't know if it will help or not, because it sounds expensive too.

 

[vr2turbo]

Yup, once done and perfect should last long time, unless something happens....

 

[OKLY]

So I went to Raydiance Wheels today hoping for them to solve my vibrating issue. After their foreman tested my car, he told me that he can't be sure if off-wheel balancing will help since I've tried it about 3 times at other shops. So he recommend me to do on-wheel balancing as well but they do not have the appropriate tools to do it, so he recommended me to go over to this shop named Kim Meng in Sunway as well.

So I went over there, they checked my front tires and found that the balancing was already off, their machine was showing a reading of 20 (last balancing done was at Lim Tayar SS2). So he did the off-wheel balance first and brought down the reading to about 10. Then he did the on-wheel balancing until the reading was 0. Now the steering vibration is eliminated about 95% in my opinion and this is so much better! Oh their on-wheel balancing uses this small little thing that they sit on that can rotate the tires and also show the reading of the balancing.

Today, he showed me that while the tires were spinning on the off-wheel balance machine, the rims seems to be a little wobbling by looking at the edge/side of the rim. He suspects that the rim isn't 100% round. Could this make sense?

Oh and which other shop have the on-wheel balancing tool where they can sit on it and spin the tires? It seems that this kind is very effective from what I experienced today.

Now I think left the rear tires to be balanced, the floor can feel vibration.

 

[vr2turbo]

One of the rims not round? Problem now, if you go back the tyre shop you brought rims from, can say you dent it. But if new rims, should not be.
Anyway even with slight dent can still be balanced, as one of my Sonata wheel is running like that without vibration.
The on wheel balancing machine, many shops also have. But some sifus do on wheel without the sitting machine.....

 

[OKLY]

One of the rims not round? Problem now, if you go back the tyre shop you brought rims from, can say you dent it. But if new rims, should not be.
Anyway even with slight dent can still be balanced, as one of my Sonata wheel is running like that without vibration.
The on wheel balancing machine, many shops also have. But some sifus do on wheel without the sitting machine.....

There's no apparent dent but it seems that when the wheel is spinning, can see like the rim isn't perfectly round.

So famous shops like Tek Ming and Quicksave will have it that on-wheel balancing machine right? Need some other alternatives just in case.

 

[vr2turbo]

Tek Ming may have. Have not seen in Quicksave. Tayar Tiong in SEA Park have.
Weng Tat uses the car engine to rotate the tyres......

 

[OKLY]

Tek Ming may have. Have not seen in Quicksave. Tayar Tiong in SEA Park have.
Weng Tat uses the car engine to rotate the tyres......

Tayar Tiong eh? Are the staffs there knowledgeable and have a good customer service?

Using engine to rotate the tires? How's that?