Performance on Satria Neo ?

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Hi guys, i'm quite new to this forum so don cucuk me haha..hope sifu sifu like Skywalker etc etc.. can help me .. thanks alot guys..
i'm a SATRIA NEO 1.6 AUTO owner.. since my exterior modification is finish..i decided to modify my performance now.. and honestly i'm not satisfied with Neo's respond + pick up..
* Pls note that my car is Auto hehe..


What i want?

1) More solid powers
2) Better pick up
3) More response


Current modify to my 1.6 Neo is K&N Drop In Filter and Larger Snorkel..

So guys, the important part is here.. what should i modify 1st to get the 3 stuff i want?
As i m new to performance.. pls don recommend me " change engine, bot , bos or wad "
i just wan to keep my campro engine and need some basic mod to give my car better pick up and response..

any good modification that u guys recommend can post it here..can also post places that can do it, price of it, and most important name or brand of the item..

Thanks for all the help.. appreciate every single help thanks..
 

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Hi bro,

Exhaust
Cams
Port And Polish
Adjustable Fuel Regulator
Engine Management
Pulleys

and the list goes on...:adore:

You name it, they do it :love:

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Exhaust
Cams
Port And Polish
Adjustable Fuel Regulator
Engine Management
Pulleys

and the list goes on...:adore:

You name it, they do it :love:
 

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exhaust system
adj campulley
fuel regulator
4 beginning...and the list is too long to write here...:smokin:
 

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if u dun want to touch the internals my suggestion is:
1)change to work's aluminium fuel rail
2)install work's adj.fuel regulator
3)install adj.cam pulley
4)install standalone ecu(tune+dyno)
5)semi racing clutch etc.exedy 3 puck for campro(red colour)
 

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Hi guys, i'm quite new to this forum so don cucuk me haha..hope sifu sifu like Skywalker etc etc.. can help me .. thanks alot guys..
i'm a SATRIA NEO 1.6 AUTO owner.. since my exterior modification is finish..i decided to modify my performance now.. and honestly i'm not satisfied with Neo's respond + pick up..
* Pls note that my car is Auto hehe..


What i want?

1) More solid powers
2) Better pick up
3) More response


Current modify to my 1.6 Neo is K&N Drop In Filter and Larger Snorkel..

So guys, the important part is here.. what should i modify 1st to get the 3 stuff i want?
As i m new to performance.. pls don recommend me " change engine, bot , bos or wad "
i just wan to keep my campro engine and need some basic mod to give my car better pick up and response..

any good modification that u guys recommend can post it here..can also post places that can do it, price of it, and most important name or brand of the item..

Thanks for all the help.. appreciate every single help thanks..
why my name appear geh??... :hmmmm::hmmmm:

campro auto ahh??... get complete hotbits exhaust system lor... abit quiet but got performance increase... next get R3 performance cams... or lightened crankpulley...

if possible try approach R3 guys if they can rework the fuel mapping and increase throttle response... campro engines are drive-by-wire... hence there is some lag in throttle response...
 

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guys, as i know the satria neo siemens ems700 is locked by proton ministry.. and i don't think can call them to remap it..

anyway y i get auto? haha thats not wad i wanted.. is my dad choice because 2 members in my family cant drive manual :banghead:

My current modification :
1) K&N Drop In Filter
2) Volker Spark Plug Cable
3) Trottle Response Adjusted
4) R3 4-2-1 Extractor only ( Haven finish the full exhaust system due to budget limited )

Guys just wondering, if my mod is only minor type. The fuel regulator don really works maximum rite?

Now i m only thinking about Adjustable Campulley or Adjustable Fuel Regulator? Which should go 1st?

Lighten Crankpulley is also a choice but i dont think i will go for that 1st. ( alot of campro members say don have much effect )

So which i can go 1st? any idea? also reminding u guys that i want more response and power :adore:

And also now i quite satisfied with my response already with only those minor mod.. The next step should be campulley or fuel regulator to make it better.. then i will stop modding performance..

for the ECU modification.. very expensive for me so i will still stick it back to stock..

Extra Modification Question for campro :

1) any1 heard of rebore trottle body? hehe doing it soon
2) and also rebore intake manifold ?


Thanks guys for all ya help!!
 

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i dun think fuel regulator and cam pulley works either
change racing cam shaft lo :P, then the cam pulley will work effective here
open pod air filter

piggy back yr ecu u can use SAFC, o emanage o even unichip if u hav enuf budget

like mine also 1.6 auto s.neo
my top speed b4 change whole exhaust is 160km/h
after i changed who exhaust stil stuck at 160km/h

i've got my throttle position adjusted as well
the response is much better n faster then b4 the power stil not much differences
my nx mod is open pod n denso plug
when budget allow i'll go for emanage even if it can only adjust the air fuel at the moment
 

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i dun think fuel regulator and cam pulley works either
change racing cam shaft lo :P, then the cam pulley will work effective here
open pod air filter

piggy back yr ecu u can use SAFC, o emanage o even unichip if u hav enuf budget

like mine also 1.6 auto s.neo
my top speed b4 change whole exhaust is 160km/h
after i changed who exhaust stil stuck at 160km/h

i've got my throttle position adjusted as well
the response is much better n faster then b4 the power stil not much differences
my nx mod is open pod n denso plug
when budget allow i'll go for emanage even if it can only adjust the air fuel at the moment

open pod is for those who like to rev.. and open pod got disadvantages also i heard.. so i bought drop in K&N very nice also.. so far satisfied..

any more review on FRP and ACP ??????
 

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the only setback for open pod is it will suck the hot air from ur engine the best way is to do CAI & heatshield. Drop-in Vs open pod hmmm drop-in if u in daily driven coz its good in fuel economy & for long run when highway cruising & open-pod if u wanna feel a little bit of umpphhhhhh hehehehe jz my 2cents :driver:
 

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since you mention "since my exterior modification is finish" mind sharing what you did? or even better got pics?
 

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guys, as i know the satria neo siemens ems700 is locked by proton ministry.. and i don't think can call them to remap it..

anyway y i get auto? haha thats not wad i wanted.. is my dad choice because 2 members in my family cant drive manual :banghead:

My current modification :
1) K&N Drop In Filter
2) Volker Spark Plug Cable
3) Trottle Response Adjusted
4) R3 4-2-1 Extractor only ( Haven finish the full exhaust system due to budget limited )

Guys just wondering, if my mod is only minor type. The fuel regulator don really works maximum rite?

Now i m only thinking about Adjustable Campulley or Adjustable Fuel Regulator? Which should go 1st?

Lighten Crankpulley is also a choice but i dont think i will go for that 1st. ( alot of campro members say don have much effect )

So which i can go 1st? any idea? also reminding u guys that i want more response and power :adore:

And also now i quite satisfied with my response already with only those minor mod.. The next step should be campulley or fuel regulator to make it better.. then i will stop modding performance..

for the ECU modification.. very expensive for me so i will still stick it back to stock..

Extra Modification Question for campro :

1) any1 heard of rebore trottle body? hehe doing it soon
2) and also rebore intake manifold ?


Thanks guys for all ya help!!
adjustable campulley should be done with highcams to achieve the best from the cams... adjustable fuel pressure regulator is a good choice for future upgrade where u need higher fuel pressure....

reboring throttle body, allowing more air to be fed into the engine is a good upgrade... if u plans to rebore throttle body and port-match ur intake manifold, its good to have adjustable fuel pressure regulator...

make adjustable campulley and high profile camshaft ur 3rd stage mod...

i dun think fuel regulator and cam pulley works either
change racing cam shaft lo :P, then the cam pulley will work effective here
open pod air filter

piggy back yr ecu u can use SAFC, o emanage o even unichip if u hav enuf budget

like mine also 1.6 auto s.neo
my top speed b4 change whole exhaust is 160km/h
after i changed who exhaust stil stuck at 160km/h

i've got my throttle position adjusted as well
the response is much better n faster then b4 the power stil not much differences
my nx mod is open pod n denso plug
when budget allow i'll go for emanage even if it can only adjust the air fuel at the moment
siemens vdo allows the use of piggyback ecu??...

open pod is for those who like to rev.. and open pod got disadvantages also i heard.. so i bought drop in K&N very nice also.. so far satisfied..

any more review on FRP and ACP ??????
what is FRP and ACP anyway??...
 
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if i'm not mistaken there r ppl who piggyback original campro's ecu :P
juz cannot adjust the ignition timing
not sure tho coz i saw quite few number of ppl using safc, emanage o even unichip -.-
even myself wanna try wif the emanage
 

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i suggest dat when when u change adj.fuel pressure regulator, u change the fuel rail as well coz the stock one is plastic so it cannot withstand higher pressure..
 

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so u have done

1) 4-2-1
2) spark plug cable
3) knn drop in
4) throttle body response

well if i were u i would go for
1) open pod
2) 4-2-1 or 4-1
3) full piping

enough for the moment , spark plug cable , iridium spark plugs , aluminium fuel rail , acp , lcp all can put aside 1st.

then go for engine management ... fixed ur a/f ratio ... by then only start going for internals ...

surbo , micro compressor , air compressor , etc etc u can try but @ ur own risk ... aherm ... my 2 cents only , anything wrong dun shoot me ...
 

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thanks for ur comment skywalker..
FPR = Fuel Pressure Regulator , ACP = Adjustable Cam Pulley
yup i did my rebore trottle body today.. very good response especially during 2k rpm start..
intake manifold haven do it.. budget problem..

ya.. if getting the FPR i will buy the full set including the dummy cap.. not sure where can get it.. they told me links have it..

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so u have done

1) 4-2-1
2) spark plug cable
3) knn drop in
4) throttle body response

well if i were u i would go for
1) open pod
2) 4-2-1 or 4-1
3) full piping

enough for the moment , spark plug cable , iridium spark plugs , aluminium fuel rail , acp , lcp all can put aside 1st.

then go for engine management ... fixed ur a/f ratio ... by then only start going for internals ...

surbo , micro compressor , air compressor , etc etc u can try but @ ur own risk ... aherm ... my 2 cents only , anything wrong dun shoot me ...

e manage i cant afford for now.. and i wan to do some basic mod 1st to improve my low end rpm..

those surbo those i tried before.. useless for me..

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So the next step i should go for Fuel Regulator Pressure rather than Adjustable Cam Pulley rite?
okok noted guys!

but before that, i book some stuff from my friends. Give some opinion pls.

1) Exhaust Mid Section = 2" Piping with 2 bullets ( Custom by Jian Hang )
1 of the bullet is customed for Auto Transmission by Jian Hang, and 1 more is normal bullet.
2) CRV Spark Plug Cable custom for neo = they told me the best cable for response
3) Everco S Flow = tested once, main reason i get this because the sound is not loud.


so this is my coming mod..

for planning mod = Fuel Regulator!

Current Mod under my bonnet !!
1) Volker Iridium Spark Plug
2) Trottle Paddle Adjusted
3) Trottle Body Rebored
4) K&N Drop In Filter
5) Larger Snorkel Inlet
6) R3 4-2-1 Extractor.

so far the pick up already satisfied enough !!
 
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wan feel lighter go 4 lightened crank pulley...lighten the flywheel a bit...a little but enuf...too much hard 2 climb hill
 

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oh sry...din c auto...then just go 4 the basic setup...4-2-1...piping...muffler..CAI..air filter..drop in better...retune ecu
 

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hmmm...stock car mostly comes running richer in air fuel ratio...so by instaling a FPR u can slighly tune 2 get a better air fuel ratio

an AT oil cooler is not bad but i think wit good maintainance n good AT oil...its not really needed anyway...its not like a AT will go into sepang
 

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hmmm...stock car mostly comes running richer in air fuel ratio...so by instaling a FPR u can slighly tune 2 get a better air fuel ratio

an AT oil cooler is not bad but i think wit good maintainance n good AT oil...its not really needed anyway...its not like a AT will go into sepang

Dude... based on my experience of owning a 96 1.6 Satria I have changed the AT twice~ plus don't expect to own a 1.6 2 door hatchback to be driven at grandma speeds all the time. So for those who practice spirited driving half of the time the oil cooler could be a sound investment.
 

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i;ve learned sth
juz turbo charge the campur engine then it can pwn many cars adi :P
 

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k&n drop in with larger air snorkel
bosch fusion spark plug
unichip q+(dastek)
throttle booster(dastek)
shell helix ultra fully syn(5w-40)
fully syn transmision for mt(75w-80)
fully distilled water mix with coolant 60%water 40%coolant
 
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k&n drop in with larger air snorkel
bosch fusion spark plug
unichip q+(dastek)
throttle booster(dastek)
shell helix ultra fully syn(5w-40)
fully syn transmision for mt(75w-80)
fully distilled water mix with coolant 60%water 40%coolant
how much this throttle booster (dastek)?
 

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yes its works on cps (dastek unichip q+)

the throttle booster is rm500 but then its needed to pair up with the piggyback (dastek unichip q+)
 
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wow.......
mahal jugak loooo.......
:banghead:

Bump: currently im using g2 1.3 (a)....n using 4-1.....
is it ok 4 my car?
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Bump: currently im using g2 1.3 (a)....n using 4-1.....
is it ok 4 my car?
:confused:
 

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more than that actually 2.5k (installation and tuning also need to be consider ma)
mod what you want first then only install those piggyback so that no need to carry out twice for tuning and optimice the power from what you mod:biggrin:
 

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does changing the adj cam pulley effect the ECU? or just change and rev...
 

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more than that actually 2.5k (installation and tuning also need to be consider ma)
mod what you want first then only install those piggyback so that no need to carry out twice for tuning and optimice the power from what you mod:biggrin:
So...if that is the case I have to do all the mechanical mods first then leave the unichip last to be fitted and have it dynoed and adjusted.
 

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yup correct if not you may need to go back re tune again

the pulley you change wont effect ecu(if yes so your current ecu also will give malfunction signal
already lo)
 

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yup correct if not you may need to go back re tune again

the pulley you change wont effect ecu(if yes so your current ecu also will give malfunction signal
already lo)
craps~ ok ok understood. Now I am planning to take the NEO CPS....i wonder if it is possible to change the airfilter box and will not effect the variable intake manifold gizmo

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yup correct if not you may need to go back re tune again

the pulley you change wont effect ecu(if yes so your current ecu also will give malfunction signal
already lo)
craps~ ok ok understood. Now I am planning to take the NEO CPS....i wonder if it is possible to change the airfilter box and will not effect the variable intake manifold gizmo
 

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as long you not changing the manifold it wont disable the system works
perhaps why just not drop in(air filter)or if you can try (bmc cda)much better
cps neo good get me manual one you wont regret for that price

and ya if you dont want the rear spoiler just let me know (i want it so much):biggrin:
 

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as long you not changing the manifold it wont disable the system works
perhaps why just not drop in(air filter)or if you can try (bmc cda)much better
cps neo good get me manual one you wont regret for that price

and ya if you dont want the rear spoiler just let me know (i want it so much):biggrin:
I have placed my order for the CPS Neo and yes I ordered a MANUAL:driver:...just waiting for it to arrive.
I was actually thinking of dropping a K&N oem replacement and changing the spark cables. But dude...c'mon part of the reason I am getting the CPS is the complete bodykit and leather interior for a darn good price! :D Other wise I would have ordered a Gen2 CPS~ but I hate 4 doors.:proud: So I guess you have to source the spoiler from somewhere else.
 

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bro , go to speedworks pj , they have tuned a stock satria neo to very high performance with their hotbits exhaust and intake system , proven results although cant help u much in ur pick up as u have an auto and protons sad campro engine but ur top end and power band will be much better , go to speedworks and get the info , or u can call em at >> 03 79555533

unless u have the money to drop in a new turbocharged engine this is ur best option
 

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Honestly I doubt that the auto tranny can take so much power.... i think what he is looking is a reliable push instead of a gung ho exhaust on flames. An engine change would simply need him to change the tranny to a manual for a worthwhile gain.
 

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theres a pivot throttle unit which is 4 cars tat runs wit wire throttle...no idea how much it cost....o u guys can just go for reflashing the ecu n make it run more efficiently n better response

Bump: theres a pivot throttle unit which is 4 cars tat runs wit wire throttle...no idea how much it cost....o u guys can just go for reflashing the ecu n make it run more efficiently n better response
 

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i want to know more about the [crank pulley] please

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i just met a guy who bolted on a supercharger unit from Powerzone to his Neo... dynoed at 180 hp!!!

I wonder if its worth the painstaking time or just drop in a GSR turbo in there for the same price.
 

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not going to mod my satria neo lo~:nurse:
 

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can we actually turbo charge the 1.6 campro cps engine with intercooler? wondering anyone did that to the ori engine rather than putting in a 1.8 gsr turbo engine?
 

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can we actually turbo charge the 1.6 campro cps engine with intercooler? wondering anyone did that to the ori engine rather than putting in a 1.8 gsr turbo engine?
I believe it can be done, just how we see some vtec turbo screaming it's valves out...but I doubt the internals can take that much of a boost in stock standard form....especially the Cam profiling system. Perhaps a Soft-turbo will work just nicely at the moment. Anything more i suspect you will end up walking to the nearest workshop with your engine in a bucket.