Best Bang for Buck? Evo 7/8/8mr/9/9mr?

[potato]

I am asking because the evo stated engine 350hp but with only intake & exhaust mods. So I'm guessing the turbo boost has been increased. Can the engine & 6-speed take such heat without modding the intercooler?

 

[mizunori77]

I am asking because the evo stated engine 350hp but with only intake & exhaust mods. So I'm guessing the turbo boost has been increased. Can the engine & 6-speed take such heat without modding the intercooler?

stock evo has about 280bhp.

not sure you are referring to which evo but i am driving an 8 gsr now with cai with heat shield, exhaust, bigger intercooler, bigger fuel pump and reflashed ecu pushing about 350hp on engine at 1.5bar boost.

however, i usually drive at lower boost (1.3 bar) to preserve my engine rather than my 6-speed gb.

average water temp between high 80s to 90 degrees and oil temp at 105 to 110 degrees when driving hard at 1.3bar boost.

even at lower boost, the car is plenty fast for me.

btw, you haven't answered what is your power goals yet...

 

[EvolutionZ]

no wander i heard all the touge kakis said they smell white stallion smokes all the way la....so high horsepower.

 

[mizunori77]

no wander i heard all the touge kakis said they smell white stallion smokes all the way la....so high horsepower.

fastest car is the orange colour wan la... silver is second... both disappear after 2 corners... i'm always last

 

[potato]

I don't have much goal on the horsepower, stock with some ECU tune & good tyres are good enough but nowadays there aren't any. I prefer handling than power since nowadays many hot hatches can do that.

Most important the car's reliability. Seems like 350hp mod is abit too heavy on the engine esp on the boost. Your Boost controller can easily set the boost pressure limit?

 

[Grixism]

overall i still like the e7 stock looks, maybe the 5-speed gb is only the disadvantage

 

[EVOFans]

overall i still like the e7 stock looks, maybe the 5-speed gb is only the disadvantage

If you drag race a lot,EVO VII 5 speed gearbox is better than 6 speed
6 Speed is not as strong as 5 Speed and gear ratio not good for drag racing unless you upgrade it to 650hp rated Shep Trans Gear Set and Lower Final Drive which cost an arm and a leg
You don't see fastest EVO on 6 Speed Gearbox for a good reason
Besides,5 Speed is about 10kg lighter than 5 Speed IINM
Mitsubishi rated 1400kg for 5 Speed EVO VII GSR and 1410kg for 6 Speed EVO VIII GSR
As for 350hp crank,hmmm
Intake + Exhaust + ECU Flash + Boost Controller can net you 300-330whp dynojet whp or so
I'd assume with Intake + Exhaust,the ECU is tempered with in some way
If you ask me,the best of breed CT9A is EVO IX GT because it got all the right attribute to be great(5 Speed Manual but need new ratio or 4.11 Final Drive,1.5way Mechanical LSD,20kg lighter curb weight and all GSR refinement)
Except it is very rareI have only seen two(One Blue one for sale in Mudah early this year and one more red one being own by some dude)
Anyway,just 2 cents of my opinion from a lifelong EVO Fans since 1999

 

[mizunori77]

As for 350hp crank,hmmm
Intake + Exhaust + ECU Flash + Boost Controller can net you 300-330whp dynojet whp or so
I'd assume with Intake + Exhaust,the ECU is tempered with in some way

i doubt intake + exhaust + reflash with higher boost can get 330whp because it would mean close to 500 horses on crank.

bear in mind that i'm still on stock turbo, stock injectors and stock engine internals and if such simple bolt ons can fetch 500hp, a lot of turbo makers would go bust. :wavey:

 

[EVOFans]

i doubt intake + exhaust + reflash with higher boost can get 330whp because it would mean close to 500 horses on crank.

bear in mind that i'm still on stock turbo, stock injectors and stock engine internals and if such simple bolt ons can fetch 500hp, a lot of turbo makers would go bust. :wavey:

WTF
How can you have 330whp and 500hp on crank
It does not add up
Even if we factor in 80hp lost which is very high,you are still at only 410bhp
BHP hold no weight IMO,WHP is what matter
And yes stock EVO IX turbo can make pretty crazy HP
FYI,overall outright stock turbo record is 10.1's built by STM and make 420/420 on Mustang Dyno which translate to 460~490whp on Dynojet

 

[6UE5t]

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2.)The EVO VIII MR for 109k,from what i seen in picture,everything match what an EVO VIII MR should have so can assume it is one
...

Wow you really can tell by just looking at those pics in mudah.my?? How would you know it's not a GSR or a converted GSR or even a converted VII (cus the price is a bit low)?
Anyway the ad has disappeared so fast so must be sold already, maybe indeed a true VIII MR at a cheap price.

 

[EVOFans]

Wow you really can tell by just looking at those pics in mudah.my?? How would you know it's not a GSR or a converted GSR or even a converted VII (cus the price is a bit low)?
Anyway the ad has disappeared so fast so must be sold already, maybe indeed a true VIII MR at a cheap price.

There is a lot of hint:
1.)Alcantara Trim Black Recaro Seat
2.)Fake Carbon strip along a/c vent(If you know what am i talking about)
3.)6 Speed Shift Knob/Shifter Panel
4.)Black Head and Tailight
5.)Exposed Carbon Fibre Spoiler
6.)Black Momo Steering Wheel
7.)260km/h gauge cluster
8.)2004 Model Year so yes it is EVO VIII MR GSR
And it list several time before dropping into 109k so i suppose could be a need money sales(Please correct me if i am wrong)

 

[mizunori77]

WTF
How can you have 330whp and 500hp on crank
It does not add up
Even if we factor in 80hp lost which is very high,you are still at only 410bhp
BHP hold no weight IMO,WHP is what matter
And yes stock EVO IX turbo can make pretty crazy HP
FYI,overall outright stock turbo record is 10.1's built by STM and make 420/420 on Mustang Dyno which translate to 460~490whp on Dynojet

i read that AWD drive train losses ranges between 25% to 30%. even if i had used 25% power loss, it would have meant that i would have had around 450hp on engine, which is also impossible based on what my car has.

i'm not sure how you managed to get the 80hp power loss (about 20%). please do share as many car forums have different percentages on awd drive train power losses. :wavey:

 

[r3dox]

there is one nice Evo 8 on sales outside is stock but air manifold & exhaust already modded, but can mod til 350hp on engine? I'm guessing the ECU & turbos is probably boosted further to gain such power?

But really cannot find a stock Evo 7-9 anymore?

Can some one clarify only Evo X sold here has different spec than the JDM?

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[potato]

yea but 350bph the boost would be set quite high? If reset the boost to lower the ECU will need to be tuned again?

 

[kanan]

nice evo 8 ::

 

[mizunori77]

yea but 350bph the boost would be set quite high? If reset the boost to lower the ECU will need to be tuned again?

not necessary to reflash your ecu if you're just changing intake and exhaust. the previous owner for my car did a reflash because he sent the car for dyno run.

if you're really worried about overboosting, you can always install a good boost controller to manage your boost settings.

if i'm not mistaken, stock boost for evo 8 is 1.3 bar when the stock turbo starts boosting but drops off to 0.8 bar at higher rpm range.

i have 2 boost settings now. low boost at 1.3bar (same as stock boost) and high boost at 1.5bar, which i seldom use.

 

[potato]

it comes with the 260km/h meter is it original or modded as JDM only til 180km/h.

but in order to get 350bhp the boost would need to be higher than stock.

 

[EVOFans]

it comes with the 260km/h meter is it original or modded as JDM only til 180km/h.

but in order to get 350bhp the boost would need to be higher than stock.

No,EVO VIII and above come with 260km/h gauge cluster stock
As for drivertrain lost,i don't really buy the percentage lost.The only way to know for sure is to put your car on dyno which give crank hp reading(Dyno Dynamics,Dastek) or Engine Dyno.
What matter is always WHP,that is the HP you are going to use.The key is to keep minimum variable within run and always use same dyno as reference.
Anyway,HP is just a figure.What matter to me is trap speed on drag strip,that indicate how does your power mod setup perform most accurately.
For example,we have an EVO with same mod.Let say on a Dyno Dynamics it make only 300whp/380 crank hp while it make 340whp on Dynojet.
You can use 380bhp or anything but at the end of the day this does not change your 1/4 Mile trap speed so it's irrelevant.
TL;DR:1.)Dyno is just a figure
2.)1/4 Mile trap speed is what matter and an indicate of real world performance

 

[Mistaken_Identity]

i read that AWD drive train losses ranges between 25% to 30%. even if i had used 25% power loss, it would have meant that i would have had around 450hp on engine, which is also impossible based on what my car has.

i'm not sure how you managed to get the 80hp power loss (about 20%). please do share as many car forums have different percentages on awd drive train power losses. :wavey:

Mizu....

U should ask him which version of Evo does he drive....

 

[ehdrian]

It's funny to see TS overly concern abt the gearbox's durability, it's not dat unreliable la, u think mitsu engineers tarak RnD abt the gearbox before mass producing it meh?..Evo is not proton..Evo is a sports car, not Myvi or Viva..So, don't worry so much!..

p/s: If i can afford to buy an evo, i'm not gonna worry abt the gearbox, i'm worry dat i won't have enough $ to make the car looks better+faster :vroam: