The Best First Mod for Passenger Cars

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I like your thinking better than many others who think of going fast first than stop fast.....lol
brembo 6 pot with Linglong tires also won't stop.
 

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Watch astro sports, got linglong banner in the sports event.
in hokkien, ling-long...means "bang here, bang there". Seriously.
 

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headlamp was my first mod. Since travel back and forth PG <-> KL during night time. pv6 has a bad headlamp light output. Retrofit hid so wont blind others and JPJ..haha

Then is braking system. Better brake fast then driving fast. Something like that hahaha. Kena perli when NA pkai twin pot and oversize rotor.
an 2 pot kene perli? why!?!?
 

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My 93t still using stock single port. Alamak...lagi kena flame. Hahaha...
Doesn't mean more pot = better.

Its relative between the size of the caliper/pad to the piston. If its a bigger caliper -- due to bigger rotor, naturally a multiple port calliper would have more even coverage/force applied.
 

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Doesn't mean more pot = better.

Its relative between the size of the caliper/pad to the piston. If its a bigger caliper -- due to bigger rotor, naturally a multiple port calliper would have more even coverage/force applied.
Yup, exactly. And going bigger without modding the servo sometimes also no point, Not enough vacuum assist.....:rolleyes:
 

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Here comes a kicker. My first (and arguably the best) modification is a pair of Recaro seats. In fact, I bought the seats even before getting my car. Again, if you drive an A45 or an Evo... GTFO, this thread not relevant to you.

My rims and tires were among the last thing I changed. I rode on stock rims and stock crap tires, while adding minor handling bits such as anti roll bar, strut bar, before finally in the 3rd year of ownership I changed the rims and tires.

Because I don't race, and because I'm not an idiot, I sailed normally on public roads. You kind of grow accustomed to the lack of grip, so you don't do stupid shit in it. Now that I've used the best tires in my size, can't go back. I take corners faster than "normal" because im too lazy to move my feet to the brake pedal. Because my car is front wheel, just lift my foot off throttle, steer, and step on the go fast pedal again.

How significantly different is that driving style? Very. Me and my friends identical car both did a brake upgrade back then. Got our cars modded a week apart. I just changed to my 2nd set of brake pads. He's on his 2nd set of brake rotors!
 

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Here comes a kicker. My first (and arguably the best) modification is a pair of Recaro seats. In fact, I bought the seats even before getting my car. Again, if you drive an A45 or an Evo... GTFO, this thread not relevant to you.

My rims and tires were among the last thing I changed. I rode on stock rims and stock crap tires, while adding minor handling bits such as anti roll bar, strut bar, before finally in the 3rd year of ownership I changed the rims and tires.

Because I don't race, and because I'm not an idiot, I sailed normally on public roads. You kind of grow accustomed to the lack of grip, so you don't do stupid shit in it. Now that I've used the best tires in my size, can't go back. I take corners faster than "normal" because im too lazy to move my feet to the brake pedal. Because my car is front wheel, just lift my foot off throttle, steer, and step on the go fast pedal again.

How significantly different is that driving style? Very. Me and my friends identical car both did a brake upgrade back then. Got our cars modded a week apart. I just changed to my 2nd set of brake pads. He's on his 2nd set of brake rotors!
Hahaha yeah but you wear out tires faster than your friends I suppose and more expensive tires too. :biggrin:
 

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Hahaha yeah but you wear out tires faster than your friends I suppose and more expensive tires too. :biggrin:
Not really, actually braking more wear the tyres out more. Think about it.

I used to wear out tyres like in 9 months 2 pcs......lol
FWD, turbo, WOT..yup.. tires dies rather fast.
 

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My 93t still using stock single port. Alamak...lagi kena flame. Hahaha...
Doesn't mean more pot = better.

Its relative between the size of the caliper/pad to the piston. If its a bigger caliper -- due to bigger rotor, naturally a multiple port calliper would have more even coverage/force applied.
ixeo is right, furthermore, there's other factors that determine actual braking performance, such as pads, brake system health and suspension. Before investing in aftermarket parts, try covering the basics first, drive a similar car maybe and notice if there's any difference.
 

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Not really, actually braking more wear the tyres out more. Think about it.
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Hmm it comes back to how you drive actually, can be both I think. If you often corner hard & fast then it will eat up tires fast also. Furthermore if you use high performance tires compared to low-mid level ones, the tread wear is also much lower hence even if you drive it the same way, the tires will still finish faster.
 

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Hmm it comes back to how you drive actually, can be both I think. If you often corner hard & fast then it will eat up tires fast also. Furthermore if you use high performance tires compared to low-mid level ones, the tread wear is also much lower hence even if you drive it the same way, the tires will still finish faster.
Road condition, weather, long distance play a part too
 

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Road condition, weather, long distance play a part too
Of course those too, but I meant assuming they're similar but just different driving style (need to brake more vs corner faster/harder) and different tires (low-mid level vs high performance ones).
 

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Of course those too, but I meant assuming they're similar but just different driving style (need to brake more vs corner faster/harder) and different tires (low-mid level vs high performance ones).
Yup, of course. Driving style, saw on fb Ivan Khong rear tyre in his S2000 not worn off but can say scrub off......:driver:

Let me see can copy his picture to here...yup, here......
 

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Well, my floating style seems to be very gentle on my brake pads and tyres. LOL. Boat ma, just float all over. Don't want to grip the road with an aggressive racing line, roll and flip my boat. But I need good seats to hold me in place else I'd get sea sick and puke all over.
 

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Yup, of course. Driving style, saw on fb Ivan Khong rear tyre in his S2000 not worn off but can say scrub off......:driver:

Let me see can copy his picture to here...yup, here......
S2000 often drifts I suppose, tricky handling car I heard, especially the earlier versions.

For me, the obvious example is just my Livina. I drove it for the first 20k km or so before I bought my X, then after that the wife has driven it for over 30k km now. The difference in tire wear is quite obvious where when I drove it, the tire wear was more compared to her despite her already driving the car with more mileage than me now! Obviously she brakes a lot more than me and corners a lot slower. Now the tires are already like 5yrs old (55k km) but still the treads are pretty thick, like 50%! :biggrin:
 

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