The Best First Mod for Passenger Cars

[esthapo]

I'm still of the opinion that too thin tires actually hampers the handling especially on everyday normal road as the car tends to skip and hop across everyday road imperfections, losing traction. That's why I often already mentioned, for me I go for minimum 10cm sidewall, ideally around 10.5-11cm, so still got some flexibility to absorb those imperfections and maintain comfort at the same time, the best balance between performance and comfort while still looking relatively good or 'sporty'.

For most people, not just Malaysians, style and image worth 99% so they prioritize that first! Furthermore, tires will wear out hence most people not willing to spend much on them, as opposed to rims which theoretically should last forever (but then people also often keep changing rims to follow trend or they just got bored). So yeah, even if those big rims actually slow them down and hamper their handling, they'd still spend most of their limited budget on that instead of good tires, unfortunately. Oh well it's their money not ours so they can do whatever they want as long as they don't skid on their shit tires and bang our cars!

People got different taste & opinion based on their experience & knowledge.....some ppl like thick tire profile while others like me still prefer the ultra low profile tire which less tire flex feeling compare to thick profile...I can feel the road & the tire contact which give me higher confident & also heart attack if hit potholes

ARB are also good early investment...car instantly feel stiffer than standard & better in cornering

IHE mod usually come after that

 

[vr2turbo]

People got different taste & opinion based on their experience & knowledge.....some ppl like thick tire profile while others like me still prefer the ultra low profile tire which less tire flex feeling compare to thick profile...I can feel the road & the tire contact which give me higher confident & also heart attack if hit potholes

ARB are also good early investment...car instantly feel stiffer than standard & better in cornering

IHE mod usually come after that

Wider tyres for looks, unlike bro. 6UE5t goes practical balance of performance and comfort.....

 

[ixeo]

Low profile or high profile tires doesn't make the biggest difference. Its the tire itself. Example is fake Lancer with original crap CC5 change to XM2. Night and day difference to NVH and high speed stability.

 

[6UE5t]

People got different taste & opinion based on their experience & knowledge.....some ppl like thick tire profile while others like me still prefer the ultra low profile tire which less tire flex feeling compare to thick profile...I can feel the road & the tire contact which give me higher confident & also heart attack if hit potholes

ARB are also good early investment...car instantly feel stiffer than standard & better in cornering

IHE mod usually come after that

Wider tyres for looks, unlike bro. 6UE5t goes practical balance of performance and comfort.....

Well I don't like thick tires also, so yeah I like more balanced between comfort, performance, and looks which IMHO is around 10-11cm sidewall in general and I don't want to go above 11.5cm. I've used 9+ cm also and I just don't like it much. Even with softer suspension, it just feels different and still more harsh coz the hit from the road imperfections is felt like more immediate with the thinner tires.

 

[vr2turbo]

Low profile or high profile tires doesn't make the biggest difference. Its the tire itself. Example is fake Lancer with original crap CC5 change to XM2. Night and day difference to NVH and high speed stability.

Yup, tyres also makes a difference. Harder sidewall, higher speed rating....

 

[sweelt]

Well I don't like thick tires also, so yeah I like more balanced between comfort, performance, and looks which IMHO is around 10-11cm sidewall in general and I don't want to go above 11.5cm. I've used 9+ cm also and I just don't like it much. Even with softer suspension, it just feels different and still more harsh coz the hit from the road imperfections is felt like more immediate with the thinner tires.

personal preference lah...my friends sill jokes with me, my ps3 195/55 15", look like donuts.
As long its planted on the road mahh...
sometimes i think back during drive with wrongly match suspension, i can say tyres is the last defend.

 

[vr2turbo]

personal preference lah...my friends sill jokes with me, my ps3 195/55 15", look like donuts.
As long its planted on the road mahh...
sometimes i think back during drive with wrongly match suspension, i can say tyres is the last defend.

Usually is tyres since OEM mostly give you normal tyres only.....lol

 

[marsha1l_v6]

headlamp was my first mod. Since travel back and forth PG <-> KL during night time. pv6 has a bad headlamp light output. Retrofit hid so wont blind others and JPJ..haha

Then is braking system. Better brake fast then driving fast. Something like that hahaha. Kena perli when NA pkai twin pot and oversize rotor.

 

[vr2turbo]

headlamp was my first mod. Since travel back and forth PG <-> KL during night time. pv6 has a bad headlamp light output. Retrofit hid so wont blind others and JPJ..haha

Then is braking system. Better brake fast then driving fast. Something like that hahaha. Kena perli when NA pkai twin pot and oversize rotor.

I like your thinking better than many others who think of going fast first than stop fast.....lol

 

[marsha1l_v6]

I like your thinking better than many others who think of going fast first than stop fast.....lol

Hahaha..speed does not kill, the force of inertia due to sudden stop does..and lane hogger..hahaha

anyway, tyre too mod i did b2b with brake.. 3 years ago bought my self a set of federal rpm tyre..not bad..

 

[ixeo]

I like your thinking better than many others who think of going fast first than stop fast.....lol

brembo 6 pot with Linglong tires also won't stop.

 

[vr2turbo]

brembo 6 pot with Linglong tires also won't stop.

The wheel stop not the car......hhahahhahahah

 

[sweelt]

Watch astro sports, got linglong banner in the sports event.
in hokkien, ling-long...means "bang here, bang there". Seriously.

 

[lsm1991]

headlamp was my first mod. Since travel back and forth PG <-> KL during night time. pv6 has a bad headlamp light output. Retrofit hid so wont blind others and JPJ..haha

Then is braking system. Better brake fast then driving fast. Something like that hahaha. Kena perli when NA pkai twin pot and oversize rotor.

an 2 pot kene perli? why!?!?

 

[sweelt]

My 93t still using stock single port. Alamak...lagi kena flame. Hahaha...

 

[ixeo]

My 93t still using stock single port. Alamak...lagi kena flame. Hahaha...

Doesn't mean more pot = better.

Its relative between the size of the caliper/pad to the piston. If its a bigger caliper -- due to bigger rotor, naturally a multiple port calliper would have more even coverage/force applied.

 

[vr2turbo]

Doesn't mean more pot = better.

Its relative between the size of the caliper/pad to the piston. If its a bigger caliper -- due to bigger rotor, naturally a multiple port calliper would have more even coverage/force applied.

Yup, exactly. And going bigger without modding the servo sometimes also no point, Not enough vacuum assist.....:rolleyes:

 

[ixeo]

Here comes a kicker. My first (and arguably the best) modification is a pair of Recaro seats. In fact, I bought the seats even before getting my car. Again, if you drive an A45 or an Evo... GTFO, this thread not relevant to you.

My rims and tires were among the last thing I changed. I rode on stock rims and stock crap tires, while adding minor handling bits such as anti roll bar, strut bar, before finally in the 3rd year of ownership I changed the rims and tires.

Because I don't race, and because I'm not an idiot, I sailed normally on public roads. You kind of grow accustomed to the lack of grip, so you don't do stupid shit in it. Now that I've used the best tires in my size, can't go back. I take corners faster than "normal" because im too lazy to move my feet to the brake pedal. Because my car is front wheel, just lift my foot off throttle, steer, and step on the go fast pedal again.

How significantly different is that driving style? Very. Me and my friends identical car both did a brake upgrade back then. Got our cars modded a week apart. I just changed to my 2nd set of brake pads. He's on his 2nd set of brake rotors!

 

[6UE5t]

Here comes a kicker. My first (and arguably the best) modification is a pair of Recaro seats. In fact, I bought the seats even before getting my car. Again, if you drive an A45 or an Evo... GTFO, this thread not relevant to you.

My rims and tires were among the last thing I changed. I rode on stock rims and stock crap tires, while adding minor handling bits such as anti roll bar, strut bar, before finally in the 3rd year of ownership I changed the rims and tires.

Because I don't race, and because I'm not an idiot, I sailed normally on public roads. You kind of grow accustomed to the lack of grip, so you don't do stupid shit in it. Now that I've used the best tires in my size, can't go back. I take corners faster than "normal" because im too lazy to move my feet to the brake pedal. Because my car is front wheel, just lift my foot off throttle, steer, and step on the go fast pedal again.

How significantly different is that driving style? Very. Me and my friends identical car both did a brake upgrade back then. Got our cars modded a week apart. I just changed to my 2nd set of brake pads. He's on his 2nd set of brake rotors!

Hahaha yeah but you wear out tires faster than your friends I suppose and more expensive tires too.

 

[vr2turbo]

Hahaha yeah but you wear out tires faster than your friends I suppose and more expensive tires too.

I used to wear out tyres like in 9 months 2 pcs......lol

 

[6UE5t]

I used to wear out tyres like in 9 months 2 pcs......lol

You got powerful car la, wheel spin front tires all the time easily!

 

[vr2turbo]

You got powerful car la, wheel spin front tires all the time easily!

Yah! nowadays less running like before can last much longer......

 

[ixeo]

Hahaha yeah but you wear out tires faster than your friends I suppose and more expensive tires too.

Not really, actually braking more wear the tyres out more. Think about it.

I used to wear out tyres like in 9 months 2 pcs......lol

FWD, turbo, WOT..yup.. tires dies rather fast.

 

[Tom]

My 93t still using stock single port. Alamak...lagi kena flame. Hahaha...

Doesn't mean more pot = better.

Its relative between the size of the caliper/pad to the piston. If its a bigger caliper -- due to bigger rotor, naturally a multiple port calliper would have more even coverage/force applied.

ixeo is right, furthermore, there's other factors that determine actual braking performance, such as pads, brake system health and suspension. Before investing in aftermarket parts, try covering the basics first, drive a similar car maybe and notice if there's any difference.

 

[6UE5t]

Not really, actually braking more wear the tyres out more. Think about it.
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Hmm it comes back to how you drive actually, can be both I think. If you often corner hard & fast then it will eat up tires fast also. Furthermore if you use high performance tires compared to low-mid level ones, the tread wear is also much lower hence even if you drive it the same way, the tires will still finish faster.