The Best First Mod for Passenger Cars

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3. For tires, i choose tires with big grooves since they seems to work better in the rain despite being noisy as hell in the dry. In dry, R1Rs for its current pricepoint. Used to be RE003.
I thought R1R is bad in the rain ? The grooves are not that much typical of an extreme category tire.
 

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V720 is more affordable comparing what has been mentioned above.
How much is it? And is it *that* good? Calling vr2turbo our resident rubber specialist.

I only know Okomoto 003 is good.
 

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How much is it? And is it *that* good? Calling vr2turbo our resident rubber specialist.

I only know Okomoto 003 is good.
Okomoto?, then you more expert......hahhahahha

V720 is from Kumho extreme range. As in most extreme tyres, they are very good in dry, bad in wet, and pretty noisy when worn....:smokin:
 

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okamoto ? :biggrin:
Hehe. You do realize I typo on purpose and see who corrects me.

Okomoto?, then you more expert......hahhahahha

V720 is from Kumho extreme range. As in most extreme tyres, they are very good in dry, bad in wet, and pretty noisy when worn....:smokin:
Not suitable for daily drive in tropical weather. Wet performance is vital for daily drivers in Malaysia imo.
 

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Not suitable for daily drive in tropical weather. Wet performance is vital for daily drivers in Malaysia imo.
Daily drive better off with UHP tyres. 15" will be Michelin PS3, Bridgestone RE-003, Hankook V12Evo2, Goodyear F1-D5.....:driver:
 

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V701, looks promising on paper, price on par with RE003 and cheaper than PS3. I wonder if the current batch of PS3 still have rubber chipping off or not, else is probably use it again.

Though in theory, newer tires with the latest technology should perform better.
 

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V701, looks promising on paper, price on par with RE003 and cheaper than PS3. I wonder if the current batch of PS3 still have rubber chipping off or not, else is probably use it again.

Though in theory, newer tires with the latest technology should perform better.
Maybe next time you try that one and give us a review again like last time? :biggrin:
My next tire change also I'm planning to try either that V701, the V12E2, or PS4 if I got budget, but it's still like 1.5-2 more years to go on my current CSC5.
 

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Maybe next time you try that one and give us a review again like last time? :biggrin:
My next tire change also I'm planning to try either that V701, the V12E2, or PS4 if I got budget, but it's still like 1.5-2 more years to go on my current CSC5.
Still looking for people to test the V701.....lol
For you Asy#3 is another choice......:driver:
 

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Still looking for people to test the V701.....lol
For you Asy#3 is another choice......:driver:
Hahaha yeah, you know la.
Last time F1A2 did not have my front size 225/50/17 but now I saw in various websites overseas the F1A3 would have it, so hopefully it will be also available here. However if the price is about the same as PS4, then maybe I'd rather get the PS4 if I got the budget that is! But I'm more eager to try that V701 or V12E2 coz both look promising and seem good value for money, perfect for poor blokes like me! And I've never tried those 2 brands before as well.

Btw back to topic, here's a video about first mods to do and also agree with this thread which is tires!
[youtube]cnBkj96ZJ7I[/youtube]
 

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That's the thing, majority of Malaysians, even the "tuners", "modders" just get the biggest rim and the cheapest tire they can afford. Stating lower profile tires are "sportier" cause firmer sidewall with better handling.

I've seen so many Myvi's rolling in 17" with the absolute cheapest tires. For the same amount of money they could have gotten 15" with the best tires available.
 
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That's the thing, majority of Malaysians, even the "tuners", "modders" just get the biggest rim and the cheapest tire they can afford. Stating lower profile tires are "sportier" cause firmer sidewall with better handling.

I've seen so many Myvi's rolling in 17" with the absolute cheapest tires. For the same amount of money they could have gotten 15" with the best tires available.
Still, okomoto model 003 easy to get ehh ?? :biggrin:
 

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That's the thing, majority of Malaysians, even the "tuners", "modders" just get the biggest rim and the cheapest tire they can afford. Stating lower profile tires are "sportier" cause firmer sidewall with better handling.

I've seen so many Myvi's rolling in 17" with the absolute cheapest tires. For the same amount of money they could have gotten 15" with the best tires available.
I'm still of the opinion that too thin tires actually hampers the handling especially on everyday normal road as the car tends to skip and hop across everyday road imperfections, losing traction. That's why I often already mentioned, for me I go for minimum 10cm sidewall, ideally around 10.5-11cm, so still got some flexibility to absorb those imperfections and maintain comfort at the same time, the best balance between performance and comfort while still looking relatively good or 'sporty'.

For most people, not just Malaysians, style and image worth 99% so they prioritize that first! Furthermore, tires will wear out hence most people not willing to spend much on them, as opposed to rims which theoretically should last forever (but then people also often keep changing rims to follow trend or they just got bored). So yeah, even if those big rims actually slow them down and hamper their handling, they'd still spend most of their limited budget on that instead of good tires, unfortunately. Oh well it's their money not ours so they can do whatever they want as long as they don't skid on their shit tires and bang our cars!
 

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Bump, skip, hop also depends how hard the suspension also. If stock suspension still not too bad even ultra low profile tyre....
 

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I'm still of the opinion that too thin tires actually hampers the handling especially on everyday normal road as the car tends to skip and hop across everyday road imperfections, losing traction. That's why I often already mentioned, for me I go for minimum 10cm sidewall, ideally around 10.5-11cm, so still got some flexibility to absorb those imperfections and maintain comfort at the same time, the best balance between performance and comfort while still looking relatively good or 'sporty'.

For most people, not just Malaysians, style and image worth 99% so they prioritize that first! Furthermore, tires will wear out hence most people not willing to spend much on them, as opposed to rims which theoretically should last forever (but then people also often keep changing rims to follow trend or they just got bored). So yeah, even if those big rims actually slow them down and hamper their handling, they'd still spend most of their limited budget on that instead of good tires, unfortunately. Oh well it's their money not ours so they can do whatever they want as long as they don't skid on their shit tires and bang our cars!
People got different taste & opinion based on their experience & knowledge.....some ppl like thick tire profile while others like me still prefer the ultra low profile tire which less tire flex feeling compare to thick profile...I can feel the road & the tire contact which give me higher confident & also heart attack if hit potholes :laugh:

ARB are also good early investment...car instantly feel stiffer than standard & better in cornering

IHE mod usually come after that :biggrin:
 

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People got different taste & opinion based on their experience & knowledge.....some ppl like thick tire profile while others like me still prefer the ultra low profile tire which less tire flex feeling compare to thick profile...I can feel the road & the tire contact which give me higher confident & also heart attack if hit potholes :laugh:

ARB are also good early investment...car instantly feel stiffer than standard & better in cornering

IHE mod usually come after that :biggrin:
Wider tyres for looks, unlike bro. 6UE5t goes practical balance of performance and comfort.....:driver:
 

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Low profile or high profile tires doesn't make the biggest difference. Its the tire itself. Example is fake Lancer with original crap CC5 change to XM2. Night and day difference to NVH and high speed stability.
 
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People got different taste & opinion based on their experience & knowledge.....some ppl like thick tire profile while others like me still prefer the ultra low profile tire which less tire flex feeling compare to thick profile...I can feel the road & the tire contact which give me higher confident & also heart attack if hit potholes :laugh:

ARB are also good early investment...car instantly feel stiffer than standard & better in cornering

IHE mod usually come after that :biggrin:
Wider tyres for looks, unlike bro. 6UE5t goes practical balance of performance and comfort.....:driver:
Well I don't like thick tires also, so yeah I like more balanced between comfort, performance, and looks which IMHO is around 10-11cm sidewall in general and I don't want to go above 11.5cm. I've used 9+ cm also and I just don't like it much. Even with softer suspension, it just feels different and still more harsh coz the hit from the road imperfections is felt like more immediate with the thinner tires.
 

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Low profile or high profile tires doesn't make the biggest difference. Its the tire itself. Example is fake Lancer with original crap CC5 change to XM2. Night and day difference to NVH and high speed stability.
Yup, tyres also makes a difference. Harder sidewall, higher speed rating....:smokin:
 

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Well I don't like thick tires also, so yeah I like more balanced between comfort, performance, and looks which IMHO is around 10-11cm sidewall in general and I don't want to go above 11.5cm. I've used 9+ cm also and I just don't like it much. Even with softer suspension, it just feels different and still more harsh coz the hit from the road imperfections is felt like more immediate with the thinner tires.
personal preference lah...my friends sill jokes with me, my ps3 195/55 15", look like donuts.
As long its planted on the road mahh...:smokin:
sometimes i think back during drive with wrongly match suspension, i can say tyres is the last defend.:driver:
 

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personal preference lah...my friends sill jokes with me, my ps3 195/55 15", look like donuts.
As long its planted on the road mahh...:smokin:
sometimes i think back during drive with wrongly match suspension, i can say tyres is the last defend.:driver:
Usually is tyres since OEM mostly give you normal tyres only.....lol:rofl:
 

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headlamp was my first mod. Since travel back and forth PG <-> KL during night time. pv6 has a bad headlamp light output. Retrofit hid so wont blind others and JPJ..haha

Then is braking system. Better brake fast then driving fast. Something like that hahaha. Kena perli when NA pkai twin pot and oversize rotor.
 

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headlamp was my first mod. Since travel back and forth PG <-> KL during night time. pv6 has a bad headlamp light output. Retrofit hid so wont blind others and JPJ..haha

Then is braking system. Better brake fast then driving fast. Something like that hahaha. Kena perli when NA pkai twin pot and oversize rotor.
I like your thinking better than many others who think of going fast first than stop fast.....lol
 

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I like your thinking better than many others who think of going fast first than stop fast.....lol
Hahaha..speed does not kill, the force of inertia due to sudden stop does..and lane hogger..hahaha

anyway, tyre too mod i did b2b with brake.. 3 years ago bought my self a set of federal rpm tyre..not bad..:driver: