Merdeka Race

[XXX]

Originally posted by KillerB@Sep 1 2004, 12:53 AM
Did some search, results can be found here : http://www.malaysiangp.com.my/motorsports/mme/results/04_RaceClass.pdf

Dear Tripple X, what is your point in your arguments on scud's postings? Is it not fair to you that the winning team won? Does it matter whether it's f1 of roadcars or someone says it's built in kuala kubu baru? I say this cuz if i were from the team and read your posting, i'd b quite heartached. For me, i think all podium winners and teams deserve the respect and not someone saying oh! this and oh! that. :P :P :P No offence yah :)

Killer B

If you read my postings again properly then you will understand better.
I am happy that Honda won dont misunderstand but I just felt that scudracer
was trying to be over modest thats all.
eg. You are good but you tell people you are no good so that people will come and tell you nolah you are good......what the hell Im writing I dunno Ive just confused myself :D

 

[scudracer]

Well, my frame of mind might be a bit skewed because I know a lot of the guys on the team were really saddened when a newspaper reported that "the cars were flown in from Japan"!!

Imagine how to explain to your spouse that you've been toiling away at late hours, until early morning, and then suddenly in the papers, it says otherwise? There was lots of weird talk in the pitlane too. A friend of mine said she heard a bunch of guys saying that there's "No such thing as a 2.0 Civic, only 1.7".

With so much disinformation flying around, please forgive me if I'm a bit defensive. The drivers really practiced getting the right lines, and even when the car had tyre problems, they went around in a Stream, to familarise themselves.

It was a lot of hard work but then when you win, people come up with stuff like "Oh its cos they've got factory support", which is true but that doesn't guarantee a win, and the Porsche/Lambo guys had a LOT more money pumped into the race. Others say, "Oh everything is race prepared in Japan", which is really UNTRUE.

Just want to clarify things, that's all.

 

[XXX]

Ok point taken. Like I said its my 2 cents and maybe bcos Im still feeling pissed for not being able to drive that day bcos the car conked before my stint and Im letting out my 'Geramness' in words and its just unlucky it had to be you.


Cheers.

 

[ninja_iga]

woah!
XXX

okie everything cool now :)

i'd honestly respect the Hondas (HMRT) very fast and reliable (again!!!) shite.....

one of the more professional teams around.
WRC Motorsports? the mechanics are a bunch of fuck-ups!
intercooler hoses popping off, wheels coming off, intercom not plugged in.. bunch of screwed up geniuses!

and oh, i work with them, i was time-keeper for team NRT (NAM Racing Team) and it was KiMi (Hakimi) that got 2.32's not Karamjit.. Karam was doing 2.36+
at least this year has less tension on our side from slightly better logistic organising. sigh.... DNF again!

 

[SpeedWanker]

but IMHO i think the biggest fuck up was SIC placing Jeff Amin as clerk of the course.. he's just full of it :ph34r:

 

[XXX]

Originally posted by SpeedWanker@Sep 1 2004, 12:32 PM
but IMHO i think the biggest fuck up was SIC placing Jeff Amin as clerk of the course.. he's just full of it :ph34r:

Why do you say so? Was it something he did? IMHO i find him approachable and very humble.

 

[OSFlanker]

What are the main diff between a car prepped for endurance race and one prepped for sprint race? Obviously reliability is crucial and what are the steps taken to stretch the life of the car from 15 laps to 200+ laps?

 

[XXX]

talking from experience ...sprintrace modify kau kau...endurance race go junk shop look for one nice engine, plonk it in of you go..unless you send your engine to
real engineers other than Ah Kow under the tree the chances of engine lasting not very good.
eg. Yellow Toyota SEG Car No.86 blew 4 engines prior to race including 1 in qualifying....all 4 engines when through the works but lasted only abt 20-30 laps
On eve of race no choice had to simply get one standard engine from junkyard
and plonk it in.......finished the race 15th overall if Im not mistaken and 4th in class. I went through the same thing last year.

Anyway this was my experience and my 2 cents.

 

[chooz]

man.. isnt it illegal to change the engine in the race huh?
:blink:

 

[ninja_iga]

the engine was changed BEFORE the race, it blew during qualifying.

 

[XXX]

Originally posted by chooz@Sep 1 2004, 10:16 PM
man.. isnt it illegal to change the engine in the race huh?
:blink:

Last year no problem this year yes. This year can fix but cannot change that also goes for the gearbox (this ruling was the downfall of the Lambo as the gearbox is very complicated and can be done only by the factory they had spare gearboxes but were not allowed to use it). Before the race you can change engine at the discretion of the stewards..eg. engine breaks (block pecah) during qualifying (as in the case of the Toyota SEG (#86)) but it has to be done before the race proper.

 

[Kenboy]

wow, they blew 4 engines eh? did they find out what was wrong? they were definitely fast in the practice sessions.

also wonder what happened to sabelt.

 

[yolk]

XXX,
This year you no join ka ?? saving big big budget to spend for next year ka ?? kekeke .. yeah such a pity yellow SEG they were hoping for at least podium finish this year with the race prepared engine but somehow something went wrong somewhere with the engine ... at least this still managed to finish the race though no podium la .. but what happen to the while levin ae101 .. williams team if not mistaken ... heard their car was quite fast during practise/qualifying round ?

kenboy,
congrats on your finish as well .. round two next year ?? B)

 

[MK84]

AE111 car No 110 expired at turn 9 in the 11th hour.

 

[SpeedWanker]

Originally posted by XXX+Sep 1 2004, 01:03 PM-->

QUOTE (XXX @ Sep 1 2004, 01:03 PM)

--QuoteBegin-SpeedWanker

@Sep 1 2004, 12:32 PM but IMHO i think the biggest fuck up was SIC placing Jeff Amin as clerk of the course.. he's just full of it :ph34r:

Why do you say so? Was it something he did? IMHO i find him approachable and very humble. [/b][/quote] well there're a few points like placing a ban for using radios at the very last minute without no good explaination, not allowing crew to work after midnight, etc.. well maybe its personal.. i guess i should not have posted my remark..sorry...

 

[chooz]

Originally posted by Kenboy@Sep 2 2004, 09:58 AM
wow, they blew 4 engines eh? did they find out what was wrong? they were definitely fast in the practice sessions.

also wonder what happened to sabelt.

he got 46th overall
bad luck in the final 5mins as somebody hit the back of the car thus spinning it out of the race...

here some lovely r3 girls... hehe..

 

[XXX]

Originally posted by yolk@Sep 2 2004, 10:45 AM
XXX,
This year you no join ka ?? saving big big budget to spend for next year ka ?? kekeke .. yeah such a pity yellow SEG they were hoping for at least podium finish this year with the race prepared engine but somehow something went wrong somewhere with the engine ... at least this still managed to finish the race though no podium la .. but what happen to the while levin ae101 .. williams team if not mistaken ... heard their car was quite fast during practise/qualifying round ?

kenboy,
congrats on your finish as well .. round two next year ?? B)

Yolk,

Ada join tapi takda drive, 10 minutes before my turn to drive, car never came back....#@%*^ (below is what I was suppose to drive). Last minute call up on the eve of qualifying. Never drove the car before straight do qualifying did 2:44.3 on the 3rd lap of 6 and then came in, I was doing the same times as the 1st driver but could have done better with a few more laps, as there was no reason for me to stress the car out I stopped at that.
Kennys car lagi laju he did a 2:40 compared to William 2:44

Speedwanker,

The radio thingy was not a last minute decision, It was never mentioned in the ASR. Last year it was mentioned thats why we were allowed to use.
They were just trying to be fair to the others who does not have sophisticated radio sets as compared to the bigger teams. In fact there was a request to the stewards to allow the use of radios but some drivers themselves disagreed to it,
If there was no objection at all then the radios would have been allowed.
So at the end of the day it was the drivers calling not SIC.
If you were at the drivers briefing than I think you would understand better.

 

[ninja_iga]

erk..?

SpeedWanker should be at the driver's briefing! :P he's one of the Team X1-R drivers, he's in the same car as Deanna Yussoff :)

 

[AccordR]

but in the end, they came up with an ASR to allow class O and class A to use the radio. At first during the drivers' briefing, Jeff said very clearly that he's the boss, and as long as he receives an objection, he will not allow it to be used. Then suddenly during race day, they came up with an ASR to say that rule # in FIA Rules allow class A & O to use.... before that they kept saying that there was no such thing.... looks like Jeff and the Stewards don't really know their stuff... :unsure:

:D

 

[Kenboy]

on night before race, one of the competitors wrote a petition to the stewards about allowing driver to pit radios. abt 50++ competitors signed the petition. since all the A+O class agreed on the radios, the stewards allowed it. but since not all the class B+C competitors agreed, therefore it was not allowed in these classes.

it was the competitors call. the stewards are doing the best they can, give em a chance.