is it worth it?

[zidane247]

hi.. i've been thinking abt changing my standard wira 1.5 engine with a.. say 4g63.. basically.. coz i want better pickup and horsepower..

but.. my friends are telling me that i should just stick to my standard engine.. they say tht if i change the engine, the price of the car will depreciate more compared to if i stick with the standard spec.. is this true?

obviously, changing the engine would require a lot of money (the engine, wiring, workmanship etc).. so, my friends said i should juz replace some of the parts instead of paying so much for a new engine (eg. change the camshaft, better sparkplug, port polish etc).. wht do u guys think?

for those of u who've change ur engine.. is it really worth it?

 

[deacon]

you drive a proton, which means the car has depreciated already with or without an engine transplant. Keep in mind 2L in a wira will not pass inspection.

 

[kk9972]

Change engine or not, the car price is depreciated based on your car age and the current market value. People will feel unworthy to change engine because when they want to sell off their car, they will tend to top up the value of modification + the current market car price.
2L engine will not be allowed anymore. The max can go to 1.8. Still you can put in 2L if you have "someway" to do so.

Happy Modding!

 

[mag9556]

Can, not to say can not but there will be a clause...
The car name can not be transfer anymore, if wanna to transfer change back to ori as I have a fren whom have 2 Mitsubishi Pajero with 1jz engine inside also provided u have the 'jalan' to do so la....

 

[b00n]

depends...
the car would depreciate anyway like what they all say.
But selling price if u mod it correctly would still fetch higher price than the normal stock version of the same year.
And to mod or not to mod it all depends on the budget.
For me, the time my engine oil pan crack and cost my engine to blew.

2 choice for me. Transplant or get back an engine "kosong" and plunk it back. Come to think of it, if I plunk in the stock engine "kosong" from proton back to the car.......than I would have to sell it after the repair. (to be safe that it doesn't give me any problem later)
Than I chose transplant to 6A10. Reason being I would be able to drive the car for years to come and by selling the car, I would be at the losing end...
So it has being 2 years and the car still with me and going strong!

 

[evo3]

yep..proton wira already no value in the market.... last time mine is modded with 4G63T and i sell it off at RM35k while the market price is only RM23k. So it depend how u mod it and the person who buy it. :)

 

[zidane247]

ic. so its possible to fetch better price if u modd ur car properly izzit.. thts good to know :D

another thing they argued on is d condition of the engine.. they say tht sometimes.. if u're unlucky.. u get engine with lots of problem.. and if the mechanic didn't set up d engine properly.. sure rosak..

so.. how?

 

[rollakid]

kris.. i think if that car of yours might worth a bit more now ler.. since previously transplanted 2liter engine is allowed to be kept while newer one cannot.

btw, that car now how liau? no more running izit? no fix? sayang ler..

 

[b00n]

that's the same like when u buy a car or when u go repair your car....
so what?!...
you don't buy cars or you don't go to the mechanic?!

Obviously you need to do survey and know what you're doing or at least has trusted friends or mechanics who knows stuffs...

Test out the engine, look at the mileage and find a recommended mechanic.

Common sense. Obviously when u buy something, even when it's new and you didn't check properly than only found a lot of defects...who can you blame?!

 

[zidane247]

boon.. how to know if the engine is ok? still have to pasang with ur car.. then only can test right? wht if defect isn't obvious early on and u dont notice it until later?

sorry for d noob question. juz want to be sure...

 

[jeremy]

then boh pien lo. it's mostly luck..
find a trusted mechanic, overhaul engine 1st b4 transplant into yur car

 

[boosook]

my advice not to change to 4g63t... stick to 1.8 most...

1) like the rest said..you cant get approval unless u got "jalan"
2) petrol price go up so very makan minyak
3) im using 4g63t...the problem that its giving me is crazy...for 3 years ive been using this engine and until now different problems come different month.. wanna do exterior also no more money. unless you are a rich person and very free to send ur car for repair...

so now im thinking of changing car...so better u think twice..

 

[amrancharger]

bro zidane 247,
people change engine due to engine oledi rosak teruk.if yr 1.5 engine is still in good condition...u can just upgrade it to produce more hp.but need to be done properly.then u will also got lots of extra money to do interior or exterior.wira is very easy to find performance parts with good quality.value for money!!dis is wut consumer shud tink first...rite??

Transplant engine is not just change yr engine it also include changing yr braking system and suspension(this is most important to pass puspakom!) heh....

but still up to u...just dun be chasin da wind at da n of da day ya...

more importantly when u change engine just crossed yr finger and hope lady luck is by yr side. :)

just my 2cents.

 

[renxun]

to do this 1st tis should not be ur only transport car.... bcuz on early stage of engine coversion u still need to go to work as usual...and secondly mostly the problem occur during conversion are those minor minor stuffs like oh ur wat wat sensor is faulty or ur beltings seems had reach their lifespans or it can also be like changing camseal if they are leaking ... but tis is just begining bcuz wat u are buying is 2nd hand stuff... then u will came across some challenges or tings which doesnt go as smooth as plan ... but once it was done ... i mean after around 1 mth or 2 frm day one conversion and u had been driven it to see wat is lacking off and wat need to be done to 'perfectionize' it, u will be good for the coming years as u will feel tat all d time n effort spend was well worth it as u are equiped with something newer , fresher,faster and better....

 

[amrancharger]

so izit worth it??

 

[strangex2]

Maybe for what it's worth, it's more worth it than buying a whole new car (new car, since u got a Wira, you won't get a MyVi right? maybe a Vios or higher). And come on, if you can afford a new car with turbo etc, you won't be starting this thread anyway.

Changing engine, repairing it and keeping it in tip-top condition and the rest, will cost much less than a new car. So, go for what you can afford. At least you will end up with something much better and faster than your current setup right.

But then again, you have to avoid those people who keep on telling you off, 'What for modify your Wira? Buy new car lah...' etc etc. I have a Kancil and I keep on hearing that from people. Sigh.

 

[amrancharger]

hahaha...if dats da case it depends on the owner than...but there's alot to consider since some will transform from carb to injection,alot of things need to ponder ere.. :)

 

[renxun]

Maybe for what it's worth, it's more worth it than buying a whole new car (new car, since u got a Wira, you won't get a MyVi right? maybe a Vios or higher). And come on, if you can afford a new car with turbo etc, you won't be starting this thread anyway.

Changing engine, repairing it and keeping it in tip-top condition and the rest, will cost much less than a new car. So, go for what you can afford. At least you will end up with something much better and faster than your current setup right.

But then again, you have to avoid those people who keep on telling you off, 'What for modify your Wira? Buy new car lah...' etc etc. I have a Kancil and I keep on hearing that from people. Sigh.

sure there will be some pl who will be saying things which are hard to hear.. but for me as a easy going person i will just say "yes i might be beating around the bush doing my old car but at least im not tied up with any installment and i can choose to spend my money on the things i like for my car rather than prioritize loan payment every month. it might not look nice and it might not as comfort as new but other than that it serves all the purpose being a car of my liking..