Greddy Type-R BOV installation and issue

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Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has any idea's on proper installation of the Greddy Type-R bov (enhanced springs) on RB26dett. The bov is installed after the i/c, before the intake plenum. However, the bov does not seems to open (or fully open), sounding like most return air is discharged from the ARC air-box (bad) ... The engine is running on twin oem turbo's at approximately 0.8bar.

How/Where did you plumb the vacuum lines for the top nipple, and when/if you use the side nipple port?

I have read, the vacuum line diameter (id) plays a role on the opening of the bov?



:adore::adore::adore:
 
bro if im not mistaken the type r bov was meant for car that is boosting 1.5bar and above to prevent boost leakage.. the type r bov sping is too stiff for normal boost and it wont open the valve.. may i ask why u choose to use this bov?
 
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has any idea's on proper installation of the Greddy Type-R bov (enhanced springs) on RB26dett. The bov is installed after the i/c, before the intake plenum. However, the bov does not seems to open (or fully open), sounding like most return air is discharged from the ARC air-box (bad) ... The engine is running on twin oem turbo's at approximately 0.8bar.

How/Where did you plumb the vacuum lines for the top nipple, and when/if you use the side nipple port?

I have read, the vacuum line diameter (id) plays a role on the opening of the bov?



:adore::adore::adore:

anything from 4mm-6mm should be fine
wrong move putting a enhanced spring on a 0.8bar boosting car
its meant for very very high boost
do this if u want it to open early
top niple from normal place
bottom nipple from before throthlebody
 
anything from 4mm-6mm should be fine
wrong move putting a enhanced spring on a 0.8bar boosting car
its meant for very very high boost
do this if u want it to open early
top niple from normal place
bottom nipple from before throthlebody

Sound experience... kekeke....
 
bro if im not mistaken the type r bov was meant for car that is boosting 1.5bar and above to prevent boost leakage.. the type r bov sping is too stiff for normal boost and it wont open the valve.. may i ask why u choose to use this bov?


I guess my mechanic anticipated me to drop in a pair of GT30's, or single GT40's but it didn't materialize ... Rather kept to the modest hp's for driveability :idea: The again, the Type-R (at that time) was so far the recommended in term of durability compared to others ... :biggrin:




anything from 4mm-6mm should be fine
wrong move putting a enhanced spring on a 0.8bar boosting car
its meant for very very high boost
do this if u want it to open early
top niple from normal place
bottom nipple from before throthlebody


Yup, that's what I did .... Maybe I should crank it to 1.1 - 1.3 bar instead :idea: By the way, that was a good "karangan" about the Synapse bov ... although abit conflicting on the last paragraph ... No doubt, excellent ... :adore:
 
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I guess my mechanic anticipated me to drop in a pair of GT30's, or single GT40's but it didn't materialize ... Rather kept to the modest hp's for driveability :idea: The again, the Type-R (at that time) was so far the recommended in term of durability compared to others ... :biggrin:

hehe make sure u dnt blow ur turbo ;) play safe
 
hehe make sure u dnt blow ur turbo ;) play safe


That's true .... two pair of 33-oem's, and 1 pair of gt-500's in use ... Let see if they breaks ... :biggrin:



Btw, jinkl ... are you a turbo distributor or something :hmmmm:
 
That's true .... two pair of 33-oem's, and 1 pair of gt-500's in use ... Let see if they breaks ... :biggrin:



Btw, jinkl ... are you a turbo distributor or something :hmmmm:

nah..... turbo is like porn for me :P
 
Hmmm ... That explains your insight depth on them ... :biggrin:
 
jin is porn star...

sifu of turbologics..

BTW Jin - did i tell anyone we're hiring ? :nurse:
 
jin is a gay porn star wakakakaka..
neway i use type-r myself with the stiff spring, it won't crack open if u run below 1 bar..
unless ur running a high boosted engine,it's a waste.. b.t.w synapse b.o.v is universal can use for high boosting n low boosting,got many nipple to lick eheheh typo nipple to plugin vacum hose wahhahaha
 
jin is a gay porn star wakakakaka..
neway i use type-r myself with the stiff spring, it won't crack open if u run below 1 bar..
unless ur running a high boosted engine,it's a waste.. b.t.w synapse b.o.v is universal can use for high boosting n low boosting,got many nipple to lick eheheh typo nipple to plugin vacum hose wahhahaha

yeaps , thanks bro , i used alot of planta, ur a$$ was nice , something like 38mm hole wkakakakakakakakakakka
 
Hmmm .... even "Tech-Forced-Induction" turning into Forced-Insertion now .... :idea::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
sorry to interrupt but i someone told me that if u change the spring of the bov then u can use it(Greedy type r) for low boost is it true?
 
sorry to interrupt but i someone told me that if u change the spring of the bov then u can use it(Greedy type r) for low boost is it true?

when u buy greddy type-r , there are two options
stiffer spring or normal spring
if u buy the normal spring, u should be fine :)

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I guess my mechanic anticipated me to drop in a pair of GT30's, or single GT40's but it didn't materialize ... Rather kept to the modest hp's for driveability :idea: The again, the Type-R (at that time) was so far the recommended in term of durability compared to others ... :biggrin:







Yup, that's what I did .... Maybe I should crank it to 1.1 - 1.3 bar instead :idea: By the way, that was a good "karangan" about the Synapse bov ... although abit conflicting on the last paragraph ... No doubt, excellent ... :adore:


i guess u mean this , no problem can discuss :D

but ahaks , there is an alternative way for the greddy bov , you may tune or help the bov to open up at low boost , that is by fitting a BOOST source from intercooler piping to the down nipple of the greddy BOV. But then again, the BOV easily leaks when u run high boost cos the down nipples makes the valve to open up more easily. The down nipple is recommended more to cars that run very low boost and is unable to open the bov even after loosening the spring tension.

from wht we discussed in dsmtalk.com
from this picture of the greddy design
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3555/70369520.jpg

A&B comes from the same source which is the intercooler pipe
C is a vacuum source which happens to be after TB

A pushes the valve below
C pushes the valve down + spring to push it tighter

wht happens when u play only low boost is that the spring tension is too stiff that
it does not open fast enuff when throthle is released (when C source becomes vacuum)
thus cousing compressor surge

when u start supplying boost source B to the intercooler pipe , this helps pushing the valve up
as u release the throthle, port C becomes vacuum , port A & C still has boost pressure pushing up the valve to open


one theory that was explained in dsmtalk , argh i cant find the link
although with port
A,B and C used , u now can open up the bov easily at low boost
but it doesnt hold shut at high boost , why ? this is the reason
the amount of pressure at the hose could be the same, is the amount of surface the pressure is against on the same ? need an example eh

ok here it goes , assume the flat piece is the top diagfram

_____________________________
-------------|ooooo|--------------
-------------|ooooo|--------------


_____________________________
-------------|oo|--------------
-------------|oo|--------------

both has the same amount of surface , but the hose below is the air pressure supplied
which one will hold more , of cos the one with more surface will hold more right ? although both has same amount of boost

thts the top diagfram, same goes with he valve below , should understand that the top nipple is supplied with just 6mm hose with pressure to the diagfram while the pressure that is pushing the valve below has a constant supply of pressure to a 40mm surface + the port B is also supplied with boost pressure with a 6mm hose to push the valve open, ahak so this wht causes the leak

the higher u boost the more it will leak unless u have more and more stiffer springs
if not , why should 1bar and 10bar make diffrence :D
 
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